Bicyclist knocks pedestrian unconscious, flees scene

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

You sound so completely stupid when you write sh*t like that.

Car brains are convinced they're the most persecuted group in history when in reality they receive one of the most massive subsidies of money and space of all time.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

I stopped holding my breath when I saw multiple bicyclists putting infants in the baskets of their bikes and no one batted an eye.

I routintely see bicyclists put three year olds on bikes, who can barely even ride, on busy streets. The parents ride behind them on their own bikes like they think I guess they're going to somehow swoop in if the child falls and is about to get run over. It's insane.

You "routinely see" these shocking scenes, but yet never have had the forethought to photograph or even video such incidents so that they can be reported to the appropriate authorities?

In any case, I do agree with you that cyclists - and particularly children riding bikes - should not be mixing with road traffic. That's why I advocate for the construction of protected bike lanes on arterial roads. However, DDOT recently removed a protected bike lane on Arizona Ave NW and reversed a decision to build a protected bike lane on Connecticut Ave NW.

I trust you were as outraged by these decision as I was given your concern about the mixing of bicycle and vehicle traffic on busy streets.

DP. You think we should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike? Kind of a creepy take. You might consider getting out of the bike echo chamber for a little bit and interacting with normal people.

I also like how cyclists are like "well, we're just going to keep riding on sidewalks and putting young children in danger unless you build us more bike lanes." Meanwhile, the bike lanes in my neighborhood are rarely used. Maybe actually use the bike lanes that are there? The city is removing some of them because no one used them.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is worried about kids that is a red herring and easy to exempt. So is the constant attempts to drag cars into a convo about pedestrians fears on the sidewalk or in the cross walk from bikes.

Bikes need to slow down if they could hit a person. A child biking isn't going to hurt someone like a fully grown man speeding along. Yelling on your left or ringing a bell isn't sufficient when people are walking along. The expectation shouldn't be that walkers need to be constantly vigilant and ready to jump off the sidewalk to yield to bikes. This isn't attacking bikes it is asking bikers to be civil members of the community

I am completely dependent on my bike for getting around DC and agree with you completely. I regularly encounter people on bikes and e-bikes who seem to believe that they have the right-of-way on a sidewalk. They do not and no pedestrian is under any obligation to make room for them. If I'm walking on the sidewalk and a cyclist comes up behind me aggressively ringing their bell, I'm not moving over to accommodate them. Those people who ride e-bikes on sidewalks at any speed above 5 mph need to be ticketed. The rental e-bikes - Lyft, CaBi etc. - have very clear warnings to users prohibiting riding on sidewalks and yet there are morons out there riding them on sidewalks at 15 - 20 mph. When I see anyone do this, I tell them in no uncertain terms that I will knock them off their e-bike to prevent them from hitting anyone else. All pedestrians should do likewise.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

You sound so completely stupid when you write sh*t like that.

Car brains are convinced they're the most persecuted group in history when in reality they receive one of the most massive subsidies of money and space of all time.

If you want to complain about cars, start your own thread. We're tired of you trying to shout everyone down with these off-topic posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

I stopped holding my breath when I saw multiple bicyclists putting infants in the baskets of their bikes and no one batted an eye.

I routintely see bicyclists put three year olds on bikes, who can barely even ride, on busy streets. The parents ride behind them on their own bikes like they think I guess they're going to somehow swoop in if the child falls and is about to get run over. It's insane.

You "routinely see" these shocking scenes, but yet never have had the forethought to photograph or even video such incidents so that they can be reported to the appropriate authorities?

In any case, I do agree with you that cyclists - and particularly children riding bikes - should not be mixing with road traffic. That's why I advocate for the construction of protected bike lanes on arterial roads. However, DDOT recently removed a protected bike lane on Arizona Ave NW and reversed a decision to build a protected bike lane on Connecticut Ave NW.

I trust you were as outraged by these decision as I was given your concern about the mixing of bicycle and vehicle traffic on busy streets.

DP. You think we should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike? Kind of a creepy take. You might consider getting out of the bike echo chamber for a little bit and interacting with normal people.

What? No, I don't think people should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike. I'm calling bullsh*t on the poster who claimed that they routinely see bicyclists "put three year olds on bikes . . . on busy streets".

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Anonymous wrote:No one is worried about kids that is a red herring and easy to exempt. So is the constant attempts to drag cars into a convo about pedestrians fears on the sidewalk or in the cross walk from bikes.

Bikes need to slow down if they could hit a person. A child biking isn't going to hurt someone like a fully grown man speeding along. Yelling on your left or ringing a bell isn't sufficient when people are walking along. The expectation shouldn't be that walkers need to be constantly vigilant and ready to jump off the sidewalk to yield to bikes. This isn't attacking bikes it is asking bikers to be civil members of the community

I am completely dependent on my bike for getting around DC and agree with you completely. I regularly encounter people on bikes and e-bikes who seem to believe that they have the right-of-way on a sidewalk. They do not and no pedestrian is under any obligation to make room for them. If I'm walking on the sidewalk and a cyclist comes up behind me aggressively ringing their bell, I'm not moving over to accommodate them. Those people who ride e-bikes on sidewalks at any speed above 5 mph need to be ticketed. The rental e-bikes - Lyft, CaBi etc. - have very clear warnings to users prohibiting riding on sidewalks and yet there are morons out there riding them on sidewalks at 15 - 20 mph. When I see anyone do this, I tell them in no uncertain terms that I will knock them off their e-bike to prevent them from hitting anyone else. All pedestrians should do likewise.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

You sound so completely stupid when you write sh*t like that.

Car brains are convinced they're the most persecuted group in history when in reality they receive one of the most massive subsidies of money and space of all time.

If you want to complain about cars, start your own thread. We're tired of you trying to shout everyone down with these off-topic posts.

Calling out the unrelenting hypocrisy you've displayed throughout this thread is not "off-topic".

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

Several years ago, when I moved from DC to Montgomery County, I DID have to register my bike. I went to a police station to do this, and was given a sticker with a registration number for the bike. There may have been a small fee. This served the purpose of identifying me as the owner of the bike in case of theft, but could also be used for identifying me as the owner of the bike for illegal or problematic behavior.

At that time, there were fewer cyclists and fewer bike lanes. Kids with smaller bikes used the sidewalks. Older kids and adults with bigger bikes usually used the street — dismounting and walking their bikes when they shared the sidewalk with pedestrians. Kids approaching pedestrians from behind would signal that they were approaching. As a pedestrian, I was quite happy with this type of shared use of common spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

I stopped holding my breath when I saw multiple bicyclists putting infants in the baskets of their bikes and no one batted an eye.

I routintely see bicyclists put three year olds on bikes, who can barely even ride, on busy streets. The parents ride behind them on their own bikes like they think I guess they're going to somehow swoop in if the child falls and is about to get run over. It's insane.

You "routinely see" these shocking scenes, but yet never have had the forethought to photograph or even video such incidents so that they can be reported to the appropriate authorities?

In any case, I do agree with you that cyclists - and particularly children riding bikes - should not be mixing with road traffic. That's why I advocate for the construction of protected bike lanes on arterial roads. However, DDOT recently removed a protected bike lane on Arizona Ave NW and reversed a decision to build a protected bike lane on Connecticut Ave NW.

I trust you were as outraged by these decision as I was given your concern about the mixing of bicycle and vehicle traffic on busy streets.

DP. You think we should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike? Kind of a creepy take. You might consider getting out of the bike echo chamber for a little bit and interacting with normal people.

What? No, I don't think people should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike. I'm calling bullsh*t on the poster who claimed that they routinely see bicyclists "put three year olds on bikes . . . on busy streets".

I see people doing this at least once a week. When I do, I take a different route because I don't want to drive anywhere near them.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

I stopped holding my breath when I saw multiple bicyclists putting infants in the baskets of their bikes and no one batted an eye.

I routintely see bicyclists put three year olds on bikes, who can barely even ride, on busy streets. The parents ride behind them on their own bikes like they think I guess they're going to somehow swoop in if the child falls and is about to get run over. It's insane.

You "routinely see" these shocking scenes, but yet never have had the forethought to photograph or even video such incidents so that they can be reported to the appropriate authorities?

In any case, I do agree with you that cyclists - and particularly children riding bikes - should not be mixing with road traffic. That's why I advocate for the construction of protected bike lanes on arterial roads. However, DDOT recently removed a protected bike lane on Arizona Ave NW and reversed a decision to build a protected bike lane on Connecticut Ave NW.

I trust you were as outraged by these decision as I was given your concern about the mixing of bicycle and vehicle traffic on busy streets.

DP. You think we should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike? Kind of a creepy take. You might consider getting out of the bike echo chamber for a little bit and interacting with normal people.

I also like how cyclists are like "well, we're just going to keep riding on sidewalks and putting young children in danger unless you build us more bike lanes." Meanwhile, the bike lanes in my neighborhood are rarely used. Maybe actually use the bike lanes that are there? The city is removing some of them because no one used them.

Bike lanes get used when they are put in useful places. DDOT usually doesn't do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

You sound so completely stupid when you write sh*t like that.

Car brains are convinced they're the most persecuted group in history when in reality they receive one of the most massive subsidies of money and space of all time.

If you want to complain about cars, start your own thread. We're tired of you trying to shout everyone down with these off-topic posts.

Calling out the unrelenting hypocrisy you've displayed throughout this thread is not "off-topic".

As the title indicates, the thread is about a cyclist who ran over a woman and fled. It's not about all the other modes of transportation that you don't like. You can take your whataboutism elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not bike, but my husband and son do. They are very careful.

To be honest, there are more deaths when cyclists use the road than when they use the sidewalk, because cars are too heavy and car injuries on cyclists are often fatal. Sidewalk injuries are very rarely fatal.

But I agree that there should be an identification system on bikes, so that cyclists can be identified and charged when they cause accidents or break the rules of the road.

If the road is not safe enough for them (does not have a bike lane) then perhaps they should not be biking there at all. Pedestrians need to be safe and between all of the scooters and bikes, I'm losing my mind. They can walk like the rest of us.

Bikes should not be allowed on public roads without a driver's license and formal driving test.

Children under the age of 16 should not be allowed to ride them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not bike, but my husband and son do. They are very careful.

To be honest, there are more deaths when cyclists use the road than when they use the sidewalk, because cars are too heavy and car injuries on cyclists are often fatal. Sidewalk injuries are very rarely fatal.

But I agree that there should be an identification system on bikes, so that cyclists can be identified and charged when they cause accidents or break the rules of the road.

If the road is not safe enough for them (does not have a bike lane) then perhaps they should not be biking there at all. Pedestrians need to be safe and between all of the scooters and bikes, I'm losing my mind. They can walk like the rest of us.

E-Bikes should not be allowed on public roads without a driver's license and formal driving test.

Children under the age of 16 should not be allowed to ride them.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, go ahead and require license plates for bikes. I will happily comply with the law, just as I comply with traffic laws when I’m on my bike (or in my car). I look forward to seeing how you plan to enforce the rules for, say, 6-years-olds. Also, I assume that once you require cyclists to pay registration fees, we won’t have to constantly put up with complaints about spending money on bike infrastructure?

yeah, the government is going to have a really hard time deciding how to give licenses to do something to certain people but not other people. how will they ever figure out how to do that?

So kids don't need license plates on their bikes, or kids aren't allowed to ride them?

Somehow the government gives people licenses to practice medicine and own guns and drive cars and run restaurants and a million other things, and believe it or not, they've figured out how not to give them to six year olds.

The Council is completely captured by the bike crowd, so don’t hold your breath for any common sense bike safety regulations.

I stopped holding my breath when I saw multiple bicyclists putting infants in the baskets of their bikes and no one batted an eye.

I routintely see bicyclists put three year olds on bikes, who can barely even ride, on busy streets. The parents ride behind them on their own bikes like they think I guess they're going to somehow swoop in if the child falls and is about to get run over. It's insane.

You "routinely see" these shocking scenes, but yet never have had the forethought to photograph or even video such incidents so that they can be reported to the appropriate authorities?

In any case, I do agree with you that cyclists - and particularly children riding bikes - should not be mixing with road traffic. That's why I advocate for the construction of protected bike lanes on arterial roads. However, DDOT recently removed a protected bike lane on Arizona Ave NW and reversed a decision to build a protected bike lane on Connecticut Ave NW.

I trust you were as outraged by these decision as I was given your concern about the mixing of bicycle and vehicle traffic on busy streets.

DP. You think we should call the cops or dox people when a kid is riding a bike? Kind of a creepy take. You might consider getting out of the bike echo chamber for a little bit and interacting with normal people.

I also like how cyclists are like "well, we're just going to keep riding on sidewalks and putting young children in danger unless you build us more bike lanes." Meanwhile, the bike lanes in my neighborhood are rarely used. Maybe actually use the bike lanes that are there? The city is removing some of them because no one used them.

Bike lanes get used when they are put in useful places. DDOT usually doesn't do this.

Great, so you agree that most bike lanes are not used. Let's get rid of them then. Space is a valuable resource and we shouldn't be wasting it on things that no one uses. The decision on the Arizona Ave lane was a good start, but there's lots more work to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not bike, but my husband and son do. They are very careful.

To be honest, there are more deaths when cyclists use the road than when they use the sidewalk, because cars are too heavy and car injuries on cyclists are often fatal. Sidewalk injuries are very rarely fatal.

But I agree that there should be an identification system on bikes, so that cyclists can be identified and charged when they cause accidents or break the rules of the road.

If the road is not safe enough for them (does not have a bike lane) then perhaps they should not be biking there at all. Pedestrians need to be safe and between all of the scooters and bikes, I'm losing my mind. They can walk like the rest of us.

E-Bikes should not be allowed on public roads without a driver's license and formal driving test.

Children under the age of 16 should not be allowed to ride them.

Ebikes are battery powered mopeds. There's already laws regarding mopeds. They just have to enforce them.