Trump's health.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone care to post the names of those supposed psychiatrist diagnosing Trump with dementia?


Sure, we'll do the research for you because you can't conduct a two-second Google search. Here is one such group with their names attached.What are you going to do, report them to the government?

https://worldmhc.org



They admit their misbehavior on their own website:

https://worldmhc.org/a-note-on-our-organizational-history/


Where's the "misbehavior"? The APA said they were conducting "armchair psychiatry" and invoked the "Goldwater Rule" but the authors feel that they have a professional responsibility to educate the public about the state of Trump's mental health. That's a difference in opinion, not misbehavior. Did you even read the document you cited?

+1 The Goldwater Rule isn’t a law, it’s a norm. And you know what Trump has done to norms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That 100% is from an IV or a blood draw.

-RN


What is the difference between a bruise on his hand versus his arm? When I get blood drawn, they use my elbow crease to catch a vein. Why would they use the hand versus the arm?
I rarely have a good vein in my arm - they use my hand frequently. Apparently, mine are deep set and hard to stick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone care to post the names of those supposed psychiatrist diagnosing Trump with dementia?


Sure, we'll do the research for you because you can't conduct a two-second Google search. Here is one such group with their names attached.What are you going to do, report them to the government?

https://worldmhc.org



They admit their misbehavior on their own website:

https://worldmhc.org/a-note-on-our-organizational-history/


Where's the "misbehavior"? The APA said they were conducting "armchair psychiatry" and invoked the "Goldwater Rule" but the authors feel that they have a professional responsibility to educate the public about the state of Trump's mental health. That's a difference in opinion, not misbehavior. Did you even read the document you cited?

+1 The Goldwater Rule isn’t a law, it’s a norm. And you know what Trump has done to norms.


"They are acting like Trump" is not the ethical defense you think it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone care to post the names of those supposed psychiatrist diagnosing Trump with dementia?


Sure, we'll do the research for you because you can't conduct a two-second Google search. Here is one such group with their names attached.What are you going to do, report them to the government?

https://worldmhc.org



They admit their misbehavior on their own website:

https://worldmhc.org/a-note-on-our-organizational-history/


No. That’s not what your link says.

Why are you so invested in this? Dementia is not curable. It’s a terrible disease. But unfortunately it affects millions of Americans and becomes more like after 80. Trump is clearly unwell. And psychiatrists attribute it to dementia.


You can't diagnose someone from TV. It's as simple as that.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone care to post the names of those supposed psychiatrist diagnosing Trump with dementia?


Sure, we'll do the research for you because you can't conduct a two-second Google search. Here is one such group with their names attached.What are you going to do, report them to the government?

https://worldmhc.org



They admit their misbehavior on their own website:

https://worldmhc.org/a-note-on-our-organizational-history/


No. That’s not what your link says.

Why are you so invested in this? Dementia is not curable. It’s a terrible disease. But unfortunately it affects millions of Americans and becomes more like after 80. Trump is clearly unwell. And psychiatrists attribute it to dementia.


You can't diagnose someone from TV. It's as simple as that.



“TV”? You do get that Trump is a very public person, right? Rallies, speeches, and the like, right? Also, the professionals who have spoken out freely acknowledge that they have not had the opportunity to assess Trump in ways that would allow them to make a formal diagnosis— but have enough knowledge of his very public behavior to register concern. That Trump — unlike every other recent president— has refused to release his medical records, suggesting that he might share their concerns. (See his inordinate pride at “passing” that memory / word retrieval test a few years back.). PP, you’re “simple as that” is akin to watching someone get shot and repeatedly maintains that you have absolutely no idea why they are bleeding. Technically that would be true. Practically, though, that’s pretty stupid. Either you didn’t read the links that people posted, you didn’t understand what you read, or you’re invested in having and supporting a seriously impaired person as the POTUS.
Anonymous
Trump seems unable to come up with the word "criminal" and instead calls them "people of crime"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump seems unable to come up with the word "criminal" and instead calls them "people of crime"



There was a time I would have felt for trump. It must be very frightening to lose your words. He knows things are not right. But at this point I have no sympathy for him at all. He needs to step down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump seems unable to come up with the word "criminal" and instead calls them "people of crime"



And earlier in the week he referred to fertility treatments as "fertilization" repeatedly and did not correct himself. In February he said "supply change" instead of supply chains and didn't catch his error. He didn't know the difference between TPS and GPS, There were tons of examples of mental lapses in his first term. On the campaign trail, he frequent confused Obama for Biden, as in: “Shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled. I know them both very well, and we will restore peace through strength. Get that war settled. It’s a bad war. And Putin has so little respect for Obama that he’s starting to throw around the nuclear word. You heard that. Nuclear. He’s starting to talk nuclear weapons today,” Trump said in Virginia, drawing stunned silence from his typically uproarious crowd.

When someone puts himself in front of a TV camera every single day, the slip-ups will add up and become obvious to everyone eventually, including MAGA.

Anonymous
my personal favorite from his first term: Prince of Whales
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump seems unable to come up with the word "criminal" and instead calls them "people of crime"



Yeah, he has a lot of workarounds like that, plus lots of stock repetitions — Which are better than the neologisms— and show that he’s at least aware of his deficits and trying to compensate. I’m not saying that this is good — just that it’s better than if he couldn’t do these things.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump seems unable to come up with the word "criminal" and instead calls them "people of crime"



Yeah, he has a lot of workarounds like that, plus lots of stock repetitions — Which are better than the neologisms— and show that he’s at least aware of his deficits and trying to compensate. I’m not saying that this is good — just that it’s better than if he couldn’t do these things.



My mom, who had Alzheimer's, also did this in the early stages. It just struck me because it reminded of what she used to do - she was quite aware of what was going on and was good at covering her deficits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone care to post the names of those supposed psychiatrist diagnosing Trump with dementia?


Sure, we'll do the research for you because you can't conduct a two-second Google search. Here is one such group with their names attached.What are you going to do, report them to the government?

https://worldmhc.org



They admit their misbehavior on their own website:

https://worldmhc.org/a-note-on-our-organizational-history/


No. That’s not what your link says.

Why are you so invested in this? Dementia is not curable. It’s a terrible disease. But unfortunately it affects millions of Americans and becomes more like after 80. Trump is clearly unwell. And psychiatrists attribute it to dementia.


You can't diagnose someone from TV. It's as simple as that.



Well we also have the assessment of his neice, who has known him her own life. She is a psychologist.
Anonymous
But how much of his wording problems are normal aging (vs dementia)?

Word searching is more common as we age.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But how much of his wording problems are normal aging (vs dementia)?

Word searching is more common as we age.


Yes, but frequent use of neologisms and place fillers is not. PP, many people with medical and/or specialized training in geriatric issues have written extensively on this topic. It’s out there and easy to find — if you really want to look. A lot of it dates from before the election— as these professionals hoped that voters would value their expertise enough to seriously consider what they observed and what they had to say.

Anonymous

Moving from the thread added today...
I expect no truth-telling after today's doctor's appointment.
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