Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous
Ffs. This is not a gray case. Man is a monster. Doesn’t matter whether he was undocumented, white or had a machete.

Execute him and be done with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


She is actually going to the range and practicing on her own. She would rather have protection than be raped or kidnapped while running and have no defense. You only live once and don’t want to see a news report of her being killed or raped.

I would rather she kill her attacker and still be alive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


She is actually going to the range and practicing on her own. She would rather have protection than be raped or kidnapped while running and have no defense. You only live once and don’t want to see a news report of her being killed or raped.

I would rather she kill her attacker and still be alive.


I mean, ok, it's more likely that the gun will be stolen or used in a suicide attempt or domestic violence or be involved in an accidental shooting (of herself or someone else), but you gotta do what you feel is necessary to feel safe in public from other people with guns, I guess. Though certainly if I encounter your daughter carrying a gun while running on a trail, while I am running on the trail, I will feel a whole lot less safe. If more guns made us safer, we'd be the safest country on earth by far.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


Maybe get trained well and listen to others?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.


Again, this is a question of training and mindset. But it is far less common for men to be warned that their weapon will be taken away than women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.


Again, this is a question of training and mindset. But it is far less common for men to be warned that their weapon will be taken away than women.


Yes, that's sexism. Everyone, regardless of gender, should be warned that it's likely their weapon will be taken away and used against them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.


Again, this is a question of training and mindset. But it is far less common for men to be warned that their weapon will be taken away than women.


Yes, that's sexism. Everyone, regardless of gender, should be warned that it's likely their weapon will be taken away and used against them.


Nonsense.

A person who chooses to arm themself and become trained takes the chance that their weapon might be used against them, balanced against the likelihood that their weapon and training will combine to become an equalizer that will turn the tables on an attacker. Training also makes an attack less likely to succeed by instilling a greater sense of situational awareness.

A person who chooses not to arm themself (and people have the right to do that) is making the decision to leave themself to the tender mercies of an attacker.

People forego weapons for all sorts of reasons. They may not believe in self defense. They may not want to put the time, effort and money into training. They may not be able to form the requisite mindset. They may sincerely believe that they are not capable of maintaining control of a weapon and, if necessary using it.

But people should make these choices rationally, for themselves. When the fear of weapons becomes so pathological that it compels a person to try to deprive others of the efficacious means of self defense, that’s a problem.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.


Again, this is a question of training and mindset. But it is far less common for men to be warned that their weapon will be taken away than women.


Yes, that's sexism. Everyone, regardless of gender, should be warned that it's likely their weapon will be taken away and used against them.


Nonsense.

A person who chooses to arm themself and become trained takes the chance that their weapon might be used against them, balanced against the likelihood that their weapon and training will combine to become an equalizer that will turn the tables on an attacker. Training also makes an attack less likely to succeed by instilling a greater sense of situational awareness.

A person who chooses not to arm themself (and people have the right to do that) is making the decision to leave themself to the tender mercies of an attacker.

People forego weapons for all sorts of reasons. They may not believe in self defense. They may not want to put the time, effort and money into training. They may not be able to form the requisite mindset. They may sincerely believe that they are not capable of maintaining control of a weapon and, if necessary using it.

But people should make these choices rationally, for themselves. When the fear of weapons becomes so pathological that it compels a person to try to deprive others of the efficacious means of self defense, that’s a problem.



+100
Well stated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


Not all “arms” are firearms.

And nobody implied anyone was being forced as opposed to facilitated.

Dp. I don't carry any sort of weapon because I've been told over and over that it could be used against me by an attacker. I rarely walk, hike or run alone and always in a populated place. The fact is, this type of attack is rare and women are at more risk with someone known to us. It stinks however you look at it.


It does stink. What else stinks is the patronizing, mansplaining, anti-feminist canard that women shouldn’t arm themselves according to their desire and training because they’re not big strong men who can keep ahold of their weapons. Are all the female military personnel and law enforcement officers unarmed? Of course not!

Weapons aren’t for everyone. They require training. But “don’t carry one because you’re weak and incompetent”? Please!


DP. Guns can also be, and are, used against men, by attackers.


Again, this is a question of training and mindset. But it is far less common for men to be warned that their weapon will be taken away than women.


Yes, that's sexism. Everyone, regardless of gender, should be warned that it's likely their weapon will be taken away and used against them.


Nonsense.

A person who chooses to arm themself and become trained takes the chance that their weapon might be used against them, balanced against the likelihood that their weapon and training will combine to become an equalizer that will turn the tables on an attacker. Training also makes an attack less likely to succeed by instilling a greater sense of situational awareness.

A person who chooses not to arm themself (and people have the right to do that) is making the decision to leave themself to the tender mercies of an attacker.

People forego weapons for all sorts of reasons. They may not believe in self defense. They may not want to put the time, effort and money into training. They may not be able to form the requisite mindset. They may sincerely believe that they are not capable of maintaining control of a weapon and, if necessary using it.

But people should make these choices rationally, for themselves. When the fear of weapons becomes so pathological that it compels a person to try to deprive others of the efficacious means of self defense, that’s a problem.



Yes, I think we all understand that people acquire guns because guns make them feel powerful and safe. The reality is that the guns will actually make them less safe, and everyone else too. But data are ineffective against feelings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


She is actually going to the range and practicing on her own. She would rather have protection than be raped or kidnapped while running and have no defense. You only live once and don’t want to see a news report of her being killed or raped.

I would rather she kill her attacker and still be alive.


I mean, ok, it's more likely that the gun will be stolen or used in a suicide attempt or domestic violence or be involved in an accidental shooting (of herself or someone else), but you gotta do what you feel is necessary to feel safe in public from other people with guns, I guess. Though certainly if I encounter your daughter carrying a gun while running on a trail, while I am running on the trail, I will feel a whole lot less safe. If more guns made us safer, we'd be the safest country on earth by far.



Yeah, cuz my 5’2 Blonde daughter is so scary. I Call BS. When yo I get mugged by a 6’ dude, you will wish she was there to help you.

Idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife is armed. If you are running the trails and see a 5'2" woman with trail jogging water bottles on her belt, don't worry about her. She can take care of herself.


It’s to the point that I’m having my daughter trained and armed at all times.

Can’t depend on police to protect the public anymore. Time to defend yourself.


How does she feel about you forcing her to carry a gun everywhere?


She is actually going to the range and practicing on her own. She would rather have protection than be raped or kidnapped while running and have no defense. You only live once and don’t want to see a news report of her being killed or raped.

I would rather she kill her attacker and still be alive.


I mean, ok, it's more likely that the gun will be stolen or used in a suicide attempt or domestic violence or be involved in an accidental shooting (of herself or someone else), but you gotta do what you feel is necessary to feel safe in public from other people with guns, I guess. Though certainly if I encounter your daughter carrying a gun while running on a trail, while I am running on the trail, I will feel a whole lot less safe. If more guns made us safer, we'd be the safest country on earth by far.



Yeah, cuz my 5’2 Blonde daughter is so scary. I Call BS. When yo I get mugged by a 6’ dude, you will wish she was there to help you.

Idiot.


Anybody running on the trail with a gun is scary, regardless of height, hair color, or gender.
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