What do you think : Boomers climbed up the ladder and pulled it up after them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Are you kidding with this? Yes, there ARE plenty of starter homes. You just don't want to live in a starter home. Sheesh, no wonder you're so unhappy. But, whatever, live in your parents' basement for the rest of your life. The rest of us are fine with that.

Yeah, there are starter homes...in the middle of nowhere with a 90 minute commute each way. Boomers' "starter houses" were in Upper NW, Bethesda, and Arlington next to Metro stops.

Typical boomer response. "why aren't you happy with the crumbs we left you?!"

Your complaint appears to be with population growth, not boomers.

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers put in long hours, don't work from home and dont use social media all day.

+1

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LOL, boomers put in long hours and don't work from home because they refuse to learn how to use technology and it takes them 2 hours to merge a PDF that a millennial can do in 30 seconds. Well, I say "takes them 2 hours to merge a PDF" but that would imply they actually accomplished the task. More like they wring their hands for 2 hours before getting a millennial to do it. Probably from home.

Nice self-own though grandpa.

+1 though I wouldn’t say it so rudely. The harsh truth is that many boomers are very slow. Every single time we‘ve had a boomer retire or leave, their vacancy is made a part time position or distributed to two millennials on staff because the hours are just not justifiable. When Boomers complain about work ethic, everyone is too polite to tell them no one needs an hour to set up a wireless printer.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Of course, there are. You may not want them, but they're available. You may have to lower expectations or move further out. That's why they're called starter homes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Are you kidding with this? Yes, there ARE plenty of starter homes. You just don't want to live in a starter home. Sheesh, no wonder you're so unhappy. But, whatever, live in your parents' basement for the rest of your life. The rest of us are fine with that.

Yeah, there are starter homes...in the middle of nowhere with a 90 minute commute each way. Boomers' "starter houses" were in Upper NW, Bethesda, and Arlington next to Metro stops.

Typical boomer response. "why aren't you happy with the crumbs we left you?!"

You might consider therapy for your anger.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Are you kidding with this? Yes, there ARE plenty of starter homes. You just don't want to live in a starter home. Sheesh, no wonder you're so unhappy. But, whatever, live in your parents' basement for the rest of your life. The rest of us are fine with that.

Yeah, there are starter homes...in the middle of nowhere with a 90 minute commute each way. Boomers' "starter houses" were in Upper NW, Bethesda, and Arlington next to Metro stops.

Typical boomer response. "why aren't you happy with the crumbs we left you?!"

No. These were never starter homes

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My parents had a starter home. It was like $30k in 1972.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents had a starter home. It was like $30k in 1972.

Forgot to say, Sterling Park, VA!

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Anonymous wrote:My parents had a starter home. It was like $30k in 1972.

Forgot to say, Sterling Park, VA!

Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator, $30K in 1972 is $217,527 today. Is that what houses currently sell for in Sterling Park, VA? I just searched on Zillow and found 4 houses below $500K: $469, $475, $495, and $499.

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers put in long hours, don't work from home and dont use social media all day.

Social media and work from home was not really a thing in their prime working years.

Point being that they went to work and actually worked. Their homes and cars generally were not brand new. They didn't have the latest of everything. Yearly vacations to far away places were not done. Vacation might have been driving to another state to visit family, not flying to whatever destination suited them. I've seen posts about Italy or Paris for Christmas. Do you think Boomers did that?

Oh please. My boomer parents and in laws went to work at 9 and got off at 5 and after 5 they were done until they went into the office the next day. No cell phones, no round the clock calls and email to answer at all hours. Vacation and holidays were actually off. New homes; new cars. No interesting vacations because they prefer to sit at home drinking and popping pills (not a lack of money).

Did they take those vacations in their mid 30's while raising kids? Did they have the new house and car?

Don't bemad at Baby Boomers because they could live, and live decently on a 9 -5 job. They could relax at-home. What did you do without?

As I said, they didn’t take vacations because they liked to spend their vacation weeks popping pills and drinking by the pool. They bought a new house at 25 and another at 31. They have always had new cars that they replaced every 3 years. High end clothing, fur coats, jewelry.

What did I do without? Hmmmmm….start with daycare (I was a latchkey kid at 5 and left alone all day, every day in the summer), any extra curricular activities, more than one pair of shoes per year, winter coats, medical care (pediatrician visits stopped around age 5, no dentist, no orthodontist, only taken to an eye doctor because the school principal called my house and demanded they take me because I was tripping on things I couldn’t see, no college money, etc.

Your parents were crappy, then. Crappy parents exist now, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Are you kidding with this? Yes, there ARE plenty of starter homes. You just don't want to live in a starter home. Sheesh, no wonder you're so unhappy. But, whatever, live in your parents' basement for the rest of your life. The rest of us are fine with that.

Yeah, there are starter homes...in the middle of nowhere with a 90 minute commute each way. Boomers' "starter houses" were in Upper NW, Bethesda, and Arlington next to Metro stops.

Typical boomer response. "why aren't you happy with the crumbs we left you?!"

Please. You live in such a bubble. I live in a starter house (3/1, family of four). Close in suburb, next to a metro and shopping. Houses in my neighborhood are $350k Who cares if boomers’ starter homes were in Bethesda? That was 60 years ago. Find your own way.

No dammit!! The mean old boomers took all the good stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Boomers simply got lucky. They inherited the post WWII "golden age" of American capitalism and benefitted from it.

They didn't pull the ladder up; they just weren't clever enough to keep the ladder in place for subsequent generations.

Fair to chastise them for being fools, especially as compared to the greatest generation.

Probably not fair to criticize them for "pulling the ladder up". They were too busy gazing at their own navels to even see the ladder.

I 100% agree with all of this

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Of course, there are. You may not want them, but they're available. You may have to lower expectations or move further out. That's why they're called starter homes.

The only affordable starter homes have crushing commutes (which have been show to shorten lifespans) or terrible schools which will hobble your childrens futures.

Boomers starter homes were 2.5 bedroom colonials in Bethesda that now sell for $800k in non updated tear down condition.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Boomers aren’t “pulling up the ladder”. The issue is that there are a LOT of Boomers. Many Boomers worked jobs without traditional pensions. Living costs, especially real estate expenses have increased. So Boomers are continuing to work — instead of retiring— as many would prefer to do, and living in their own homes. It’s not that Boomers deliberately “pulled the ladder up “ after them, it’s that the turnover of jobs and homes from one generation to another isn’t happening as quickly as it did in prior generational shifts.

Mostly those aren't the vast number of boomers, but the later boomers and us Gen X. By the time we came along, all the good jobs were scooped up. It's taken me decades to get to the same place financially as my early boomer relatives achieved by their 30s.

I'm now my mid 50s and just bought a "starter home" in a so so neighborhood in MoCo as our second house. We finally have federal jobs which pay more than our previous crappy state jobs, and if we are lucky, we will finally finish out our career with private industry jobs where we can actually make money to be able to retire.

The large number of early boomers really sucked the air out for everyone else, and now the large number of the early millennials is doing the same thing.

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I have reflected and decided that Boomers did not do anything wrong, UNLESS
- They personally wronged their children (many did)
- They imagined their children's lives were like theirs, and faulted the children for it, without any analytical thought
- They voted against their children''s, and possibly their own, interests
- They pretended as if time stood still
- They stuck their heads in the sand
- Tbey behaved selfishly at every opportunity

OK, but other than those possibilities, the Boomers are innocent of all charges, and definitely did not literally pull up the rope ladder to the tree clubhouse when the kiddies came around. They were just having a selfish-adults party up there, and the kids should fend for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I think millennials really don't understand what life was like 20 years ago, 40 years ago and beyond. Those who made policy were not those who were out slugging along. People often had one car, ate at home every day, an airplane ride was a super fancy thing, and going out for coffee was unheard of. You can live the life of a boomer and save money. You can also choose a starter home (condo in a suburb that is cheaper - hence why suburbs were created by boomers), go to an in state school, send your kids to public, etc. It really isn't difficult.

Please stfu. There are no starter homes with starter prices. STFU!!!!!

Of course, there are. You may not want them, but they're available. You may have to lower expectations or move further out. That's why they're called starter homes.

The only affordable starter homes have crushing commutes (which have been show to shorten lifespans) or terrible schools which will hobble your childrens futures.

Boomers starter homes were 2.5 bedroom colonials in Bethesda that now sell for $800k in non updated tear down condition.

Ok but Bethesda and parts of the DMV are arguably more desirable than they were 50 years ago. There are many more high paying jobs here now. There are plenty of starter homes in other cities in the country where you can live an UMC life.