I am confused between Stuart Hobson Middle School vs. Deal Middle School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racism and segregation are way worse in NYC, not better. The school system is much more segregated and Black schools are much more underfunded.

We should not be looking to NYC for how to reform schools.

Right, Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Twch etc. suck. No poor kids or students of color allowed to enroll, ever.

You seriously are not aware of all the drama surrounding Stuyvesant at the moment? Yeesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Racism and segregation are way worse in NYC, not better. The school system is much more segregated and Black schools are much more underfunded.

We should not be looking to NYC for how to reform schools.

Right, Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Twch etc. suck. No poor kids or students of color allowed to enroll, ever.

You seriously are not aware of all the drama surrounding Stuyvesant at the moment? Yeesh.

I know all about the drama surrounding magnet admissions in NYC these days, along with drama in admissions to Boston's several "exam" high schools. But since I grew up in public housing and have NYC public schools to thank for my Ivy League education and long career as an attorney in this city, I'm still a fan. A huge fan of color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BASIS also doesn't care much about offering a well-rounded education. Where's their music program? Stuart Hobson has a decent one. Where's their stage for performances? Where's their serious art instruction? Where's their language instruction prior to 8th grade or post AP level? Deal teaches languages from 6th grade, Walls lets kids take college level languages at GW univ, and even JR and DCI teach Spanish past AP.

Sure, BASIS is a decent option for your tax dollars in a sea of mediocrity and failure, just not all that great other than for math and science. "STEM" is a real stretch for BASIS. The franchise can't afford much in the way of tech or engineering.

Jeez. People who catch their wives in bed with their sister have fewer issues than you do. What kind of damage did BASIS do to you that you carry around this much anger? Best part of your day is when someone opens the door to you being able to re-post versions of the above.

[Anonymous]

This thread was supposed to be about Hobson vs. Deal. Why don't we get back to that topic.

BASIS supporters and detractors, please start your own thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BASIS also doesn't care much about offering a well-rounded education. Where's their music program? Stuart Hobson has a decent one. Where's their stage for performances? Where's their serious art instruction? Where's their language instruction prior to 8th grade or post AP level? Deal teaches languages from 6th grade, Walls lets kids take college level languages at GW univ, and even JR and DCI teach Spanish past AP.

Sure, BASIS is a decent option for your tax dollars in a sea of mediocrity and failure, just not all that great other than for math and science. "STEM" is a real stretch for BASIS. The franchise can't afford much in the way of tech or engineering.

Here you go: https://enrollbasis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dc-tour-kit.pdf.

Enjoy!

I think BASIS offers plenty via the arts. They have great art electives starting in 6th grade (my kid loves the creative writing classes). BASIS does a musical every semester as an after-school elective. The music teacher runs it and is really great. I do wish that BASIS had a nicer building, offered language instruction before 8th grade, and gave kids more outside time. Despite these short-comings, my not particularly math/science-focused kid is thriving at BASIS and we're happy to have it as an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BASIS also doesn't care much about offering a well-rounded education. Where's their music program? Stuart Hobson has a decent one. Where's their stage for performances? Where's their serious art instruction? Where's their language instruction prior to 8th grade or post AP level? Deal teaches languages from 6th grade, Walls lets kids take college level languages at GW univ, and even JR and DCI teach Spanish past AP.

Sure, BASIS is a decent option for your tax dollars in a sea of mediocrity and failure, just not all that great other than for math and science. "STEM" is a real stretch for BASIS. The franchise can't afford much in the way of tech or engineering.

Here you go: https://enrollbasis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dc-tour-kit.pdf.

Enjoy!

We're at BASIS so we know that every point argued above is correct in the case of BASIS DC. Maybe other public BASIS campuses in this country offer more. We'd love it if BASIS started teaching languages in 5th grade and taught them past AP level. We love a stage, a music program, a good art program, technology and engineering electives like TJ etc.. BASIS is still our best option by a long shot, so we're taking it.

Sorry, don’t believe you.

We are at Basis, and you are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Clearly no discussion comparing two schools in DC is complete without a completely off topic rehash of the same old BASIS back and forth.

[Anonymous]

pretty much. the basis ppl cannot fathom why anyone might possibly choose deal or hobson over basis and want to know more about those two schools (and not basis)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:pretty much. the basis ppl cannot fathom why anyone might possibly choose deal or hobson over basis and want to know more about those two schools (and not basis)

So that's what you think is happening?

[Anonymous]

Every thread gets taken over by Basis parents. They are very active on this listserve apparently. They make the school look bad if you ask me. The parents seem completely neurotic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every thread gets taken over by Basis parents. They are very active on this listserve apparently. They make the school look bad if you ask me. The parents seem completely neurotic

Seems more like every thread is taken over by BASIS haters and BASIS parents choose not to sit idly by and watch the same few people with library fetishes go unchecked.

P.S. I bet the BASIS parents on DCUM will lose sleep tonight knowing you don't think they look good saying positive things about the school.

[Anonymous]

Not really.

What happens is that someone says something mildly favorable about BASIS and then the handful of BASIS haters start posting about how the schools doesn't have a library, gym, theater stage, sport fields, etc. Then BASIS boosters respond, pointing out how that critique is wrong, stupid, irrelevant, etc.

Why is this? My guess is that because a lot of kids drop out of BASIS, the parents have grudges, axes to grind, etc., and think that they need to bash BASIS to rationalize the fact that their kid couldn't handle it. You don't see that kind of vitriol with other schools because those schools socially promote and thus don't have the same attrition. BASIS boosters then correctly point out that the haters are spewing bad information.

People interested in BASIS should just ignore DCUM and do their own research. For the right sort of academically minded kid, it is a great option in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every thread gets taken over by Basis parents. They are very active on this listserve apparently. They make the school look bad if you ask me. The parents seem completely neurotic

Seems more like every thread is taken over by BASIS haters and BASIS parents choose not to sit idly by and watch the same few people with library fetishes go unchecked.

P.S. I bet the BASIS parents on DCUM will lose sleep tonight knowing you don't think they look good saying positive things about the school.

Come on, recent critiques of BASIS haven't come from posters who bemoan the lack of a library. They've mostly come from current parents who champion the fabulousness of BASIS even as they admit that the building is bad, the curriculum is limited, and the enrichment on offer isn't a selling point. It all boils down to the same thing: parents EotP who can't afford privates or houses in Upper NW, don't want to move, struck out in the Latin 1 lottery, and have little confidence in DCPS 6-8 programs make the best of BASIS. Some claim that they'd have gone for wonderful BASIS regardless, which is BS. We've heard all this umpteen times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not really.

What happens is that someone says something mildly favorable about BASIS and then the handful of BASIS haters start posting about how the schools doesn't have a library, gym, theater stage, sport fields, etc. Then BASIS boosters respond, pointing out how that critique is wrong, stupid, irrelevant, etc.

Why is this? My guess is that because a lot of kids drop out of BASIS, the parents have grudges, axes to grind, etc., and think that they need to bash BASIS to rationalize the fact that their kid couldn't handle it. You don't see that kind of vitriol with other schools because those schools socially promote and thus don't have the same attrition. BASIS boosters then correctly point out that the haters are spewing bad information.

People interested in BASIS should just ignore DCUM and do their own research. For the right sort of academically minded kid, it is a great option in DC.

A great option compared to what? Stuart Hobson, Jefferson Academy or Eliot Hine? I'll give you that. Arguably, even the most academically minded kids deserve better than BASIS. They certainly can't have better in DC public schools in terms of rigor and AP prep, so that observation is neither here nor there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every thread gets taken over by Basis parents. They are very active on this listserve apparently. They make the school look bad if you ask me. The parents seem completely neurotic

Seems more like every thread is taken over by BASIS haters and BASIS parents choose not to sit idly by and watch the same few people with library fetishes go unchecked.

P.S. I bet the BASIS parents on DCUM will lose sleep tonight knowing you don't think they look good saying positive things about the school.

Come on, recent critiques of BASIS haven't come from posters who bemoan the lack of a library. They've mostly come from current parents who champion the fabulousness of BASIS even as they admit that the building is bad, the curriculum is limited, and the enrichment on offer isn't a selling point. It all boils down to the same thing: parents EotP who can't afford privates or houses in Upper NW, don't want to move, struck out in the Latin 1 lottery, and have little confidence in DCPS 6-8 programs make the best of BASIS. Some claim that they'd have gone for wonderful BASIS regardless, which is BS. We've heard all this umpteen times.

Untrue.