Black Panther director Ryan Coogler mistakenly arrested for bank robbery

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody uses withdrawal slips. But I wonder if they thought he was being impersonated?

Usually withdrawal slips are not used for such high amounts. You request to speak to the bank manager about the account and go to a private office.

I've worked with corporations in accounting and banks like WF/BOA actually have private business offices where they take high profile clients. These are unidentified SEPARATE facilities from the public walk-in-from-the-street banks that you see publicly identified. Unfortunately if you've never worked in the situation (as a low level financial peon sent to get cash) or come from a wealthy background, you wouldn't know about that either.

Agree, but even so, anyone can walk in and request to go to a private office. Even if you do not know the procedure. I'm just a regular nobody and I've done it a few times.

So, “if you do not know the procedure” how would you even know that such a procedure is even possible? In order to ask for something, it would help to know that it’s there.

The teller —or whoever she consulted — had his account information and had or could have asked for his ID. At any point, someone from the bank could have said that for a sizable withdrawal or for the privacy that he might prefer, a manager can handle this in an office. And they could have introduced him to the manager and taken him to that office.
It’s wild how so many people are working very hard to twist this so that it’s somehow Mr Coogler’s fault that multiple people who should have been working on Mr. Coogler’s behalf screwed up royally.

To answer all the people that are saying “how would he even know these unwritten rules?” Trust me, he has been told them. We are very high net worth clients of banks. They want as much of your money as possible. So they call you frequently (it’s annoying) trying to get you into their various financial products, offer you services Joe Shmoe doesn’t get so you keep your million plus there. You have your own point of contact within the bank. If you are high net worth, you aren’t treated the same as someone who has got thousands in their account.

Bull Sh*t. Banks don't treat you any differently unless your Bill Gates wealthy.

Real high net worth here with too much money parked in an account with a local bank. They called and harassed me about it and moving it to various investments vehicles. Unlike you, I knew to tell them to never call me again. They know me and when I go in to withdraw money, I stand in line and wait for the teller like everyone else. I posted above about not having done it in a long time and talked to the manager who came out to greet me. She walked me over to the first empty teller. I have done other business with that bank and only when we have forms to fill out or options to discuss do we ever go in to one of those rooms. They've never invited me to a room to withdraw cash even when I expressed being uncomfortable with it because of the amount. NEVER. Someone always comes and talks to me while I'm in the line and I often chat with them after but despite my discomfort, the teller is going to put on that Las Vegas display of shuffling the money and letting everyone in the building know how much money I've withdrawn.

I worked in banks for several years in my 20s. Most of them were in high traffic areas with lots of local businesses that did their banking with us. They routinely would come in with sacks of cash to deposit or wanted to withdraw thousands (For an in-store ATM, for ex.) and we do it right there at the window. We had privacy booths/rooms available but that was only if they (or any customer) requested it. We didn’t automatically send anyone to a special room over a certain dollar amount.

And clearly didn’t initially think they were being robbed if she started the transaction. Which is the only way to get a flag from the system about the high dollar amount. The correct procedure is to notify the head teller (or a manager if the head teller is not available) who would come over and either approve you to continue with the transaction or they would take over if they felt they needed to do more due diligence. You don’t just call the cops because you’re ‘scared’.

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Maybe the teller just didn’t like his movie

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know- at the end of the day it’s hard to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire. It’s like when Oprah claimed she got racially profiled when she tried to buy a Birken at a Hermes store. Cry me a river!

When we speak out about injustices that happen to our people we are not looking for your pity.

Who is “our” people?

Yep. Therein lies the problem!

Poor Coogler is probably beyond embarrassed and was hoping it would go away. Only to resurface, lol. At least he won't be handing anymore notes!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know- at the end of the day it’s hard to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire. It’s like when Oprah claimed she got racially profiled when she tried to buy a Birken at a Hermes store. Cry me a river!

Really? It’s not about feeling sorry for her wealth it’s about recognizing why she was profiled and hopefully having some empathy over that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know- at the end of the day it’s hard to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire. It’s like when Oprah claimed she got racially profiled when she tried to buy a Birken at a Hermes store. Cry me a river!

Exactly! Some bigoted whites really resent blacks with money.
Really? It’s not about feeling sorry for her wealth it’s about recognizing why she was profiled and hopefully having some empathy over that.

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Anonymous wrote: PP here- I will say that any bank I've gone to has signs that say hats and sunglasses must be removed upon entry.

Is anyone in this thread, including the racists and those pretending not to be racist, buying this comment?

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody uses withdrawal slips. But I wonder if they thought he was being impersonated?

Usually withdrawal slips are not used for such high amounts. You request to speak to the bank manager about the account and go to a private office.

I've worked with corporations in accounting and banks like WF/BOA actually have private business offices where they take high profile clients. These are unidentified SEPARATE facilities from the public walk-in-from-the-street banks that you see publicly identified. Unfortunately if you've never worked in the situation (as a low level financial peon sent to get cash) or come from a wealthy background, you wouldn't know about that either.

Agree, but even so, anyone can walk in and request to go to a private office. Even if you do not know the procedure. I'm just a regular nobody and I've done it a few times.

So, “if you do not know the procedure” how would you even know that such a procedure is even possible? In order to ask for something, it would help to know that it’s there.

The teller —or whoever she consulted — had his account information and had or could have asked for his ID. At any point, someone from the bank could have said that for a sizable withdrawal or for the privacy that he might prefer, a manager can handle this in an office. And they could have introduced him to the manager and taken him to that office.
It’s wild how so many people are working very hard to twist this so that it’s somehow Mr Coogler’s fault that multiple people who should have been working on Mr. Coogler’s behalf screwed up royally.

To answer all the people that are saying “how would he even know these unwritten rules?” Trust me, he has been told them. We are very high net worth clients of banks. They want as much of your money as possible. So they call you frequently (it’s annoying) trying to get you into their various financial products, offer you services Joe Shmoe doesn’t get so you keep your million plus there. You have your own point of contact within the bank. If you are high net worth, you aren’t treated the same as someone who has got thousands in their account.

Bull Sh*t. Banks don't treat you any differently unless your Bill Gates wealthy.

Real high net worth here with too much money parked in an account with a local bank. They called and harassed me about it and moving it to various investments vehicles. Unlike you, I knew to tell them to never call me again. They know me and when I go in to withdraw money, I stand in line and wait for the teller like everyone else. I posted above about not having done it in a long time and talked to the manager who came out to greet me. She walked me over to the first empty teller. I have done other business with that bank and only when we have forms to fill out or options to discuss do we ever go in to one of those rooms. They've never invited me to a room to withdraw cash even when I expressed being uncomfortable with it because of the amount. NEVER. Someone always comes and talks to me while I'm in the line and I often chat with them after but despite my discomfort, the teller is going to put on that Las Vegas display of shuffling the money and letting everyone in the building know how much money I've withdrawn.

I worked in banks for several years in my 20s. Most of them were in high traffic areas with lots of local businesses that did their banking with us. They routinely would come in with sacks of cash to deposit or wanted to withdraw thousands (For an in-store ATM, for ex.) and we do it right there at the window. We had privacy booths/rooms available but that was only if they (or any customer) requested it. We didn’t automatically send anyone to a special room over a certain dollar amount.

So, serious question — given the vastly different experiences of people commenting here: How would someone, particularly a customer new to the branch, know to request a privacy room?

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody uses withdrawal slips. But I wonder if they thought he was being impersonated?

Usually withdrawal slips are not used for such high amounts. You request to speak to the bank manager about the account and go to a private office.

I've worked with corporations in accounting and banks like WF/BOA actually have private business offices where they take high profile clients. These are unidentified SEPARATE facilities from the public walk-in-from-the-street banks that you see publicly identified. Unfortunately if you've never worked in the situation (as a low level financial peon sent to get cash) or come from a wealthy background, you wouldn't know about that either.

Agree, but even so, anyone can walk in and request to go to a private office. Even if you do not know the procedure. I'm just a regular nobody and I've done it a few times.

So, “if you do not know the procedure” how would you even know that such a procedure is even possible? In order to ask for something, it would help to know that it’s there.

The teller —or whoever she consulted — had his account information and had or could have asked for his ID. At any point, someone from the bank could have said that for a sizable withdrawal or for the privacy that he might prefer, a manager can handle this in an office. And they could have introduced him to the manager and taken him to that office.
It’s wild how so many people are working very hard to twist this so that it’s somehow Mr Coogler’s fault that multiple people who should have been working on Mr. Coogler’s behalf screwed up royally.

To answer all the people that are saying “how would he even know these unwritten rules?” Trust me, he has been told them. We are very high net worth clients of banks. They want as much of your money as possible. So they call you frequently (it’s annoying) trying to get you into their various financial products, offer you services Joe Shmoe doesn’t get so you keep your million plus there. You have your own point of contact within the bank. If you are high net worth, you aren’t treated the same as someone who has got thousands in their account.

Bull Sh*t. Banks don't treat you any differently unless your Bill Gates wealthy.

Real high net worth here with too much money parked in an account with a local bank. They called and harassed me about it and moving it to various investments vehicles. Unlike you, I knew to tell them to never call me again. They know me and when I go in to withdraw money, I stand in line and wait for the teller like everyone else. I posted above about not having done it in a long time and talked to the manager who came out to greet me. She walked me over to the first empty teller. I have done other business with that bank and only when we have forms to fill out or options to discuss do we ever go in to one of those rooms. They've never invited me to a room to withdraw cash even when I expressed being uncomfortable with it because of the amount. NEVER. Someone always comes and talks to me while I'm in the line and I often chat with them after but despite my discomfort, the teller is going to put on that Las Vegas display of shuffling the money and letting everyone in the building know how much money I've withdrawn.

I worked in banks for several years in my 20s. Most of them were in high traffic areas with lots of local businesses that did their banking with us. They routinely would come in with sacks of cash to deposit or wanted to withdraw thousands (For an in-store ATM, for ex.) and we do it right there at the window. We had privacy booths/rooms available but that was only if they (or any customer) requested it. We didn’t automatically send anyone to a special room over a certain dollar amount.

So, serious question — given the vastly different experiences of people commenting here: How would someone, particularly a customer new to the branch, know to request a privacy room?

As in: Is it a given that most or even all banks will have them? I have been to banks with private rooms for people getting their safe deposit boxes, but this is new to me.

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Anonymous wrote: PP here- I will say that any bank I've gone to has signs that say hats and sunglasses must be removed upon entry.

Is anyone in this thread, including the racists and those pretending not to be racist, buying this comment?

1) yes. I’ve seen that sign at banks as well.
2) why do you say people on this thread are racists?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the woman who alerted someone to this, a black bank teller? I think that's what TMZ said. If so, this is not a karen situation.

Yes a Black pregnant Bank Teller. She fu&ked up. Apparently, she was processing the transaction and some sort of alert popped up on her screen because of the amount. So instead of calling her supervisor over to deal with the alert, she told her supervisor he was robbing the bank. The cops investigated and said she was at fault.

What an idiot.

He's the idiot. Look at the photos.

He should have asked to speak to the bank manager. This wasn't about race.

The photos are posted on the last page. I don't see anything in those photos that make him the idiot. The teller was at fault according to the police.

NP. The teller was at fault for identifying it as an attempted robbery. But let's not ignore the fact that the bank's systems automatically flagged the transaction for special attention because it was over $10,000. This is very common, folks, even if you yourselves have withdrawn more than 10 grand and weren't aware of any alert. In banking, taxes, transport of cash internationally (like carrying more than 10k with you overseas, and yes, it happens)--that amount gets flagged for attention. Mostly you aren't even aware it's happening. Of course the fact it was something as specific as $12,000 and the wording of the slip should have been a clue that this wasn't a robbery but I wondered: The teller sounds possibly inexperienced, or possibly she had been present at a real bank robbery another time and was unwittingly biased to see such a request as a robbery etc. Not excuses but possible explanations.

I myself find it odd that a high-profile client wanting that amount of cash "discreetly" didn't simply ask to see a banker. No super secret room needs to be involved like some PPs posted; just ask to see a banker, you'll go to a desk or into a regular office, and can say what you want. They'll go out and deal the tellers for you and bring you the cash. Surprised he didn't just do that BUT also, it's not like it was $120,000, it was $12,000, and he probably has withdrawn that much with no issues before. It's just a pity that the teller reacted with the idea of robbery instead of asking a manager to come look at the note there and then.

And the bolded is exactly why the bank teller was found to be at fault. She had his account number. So she thought, oh he's robbing money from his own account? Somebody make it make sense.

If he also showed ID then she’s def a moron. Check with your manager but to push the bank robbery secret button is a bit of an overreaction. Perhaps it’s hormones. Bless her.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the woman who alerted someone to this, a black bank teller? I think that's what TMZ said. If so, this is not a karen situation.

Yes a Black pregnant Bank Teller. She fu&ked up. Apparently, she was processing the transaction and some sort of alert popped up on her screen because of the amount. So instead of calling her supervisor over to deal with the alert, she told her supervisor he was robbing the bank. The cops investigated and said she was at fault.

What an idiot.

He's the idiot. Look at the photos.

He should have asked to speak to the bank manager. This wasn't about race.

The photos are posted on the last page. I don't see anything in those photos that make him the idiot. The teller was at fault according to the police.

NP. The teller was at fault for identifying it as an attempted robbery. But let's not ignore the fact that the bank's systems automatically flagged the transaction for special attention because it was over $10,000. This is very common, folks, even if you yourselves have withdrawn more than 10 grand and weren't aware of any alert. In banking, taxes, transport of cash internationally (like carrying more than 10k with you overseas, and yes, it happens)--that amount gets flagged for attention. Mostly you aren't even aware it's happening. Of course the fact it was something as specific as $12,000 and the wording of the slip should have been a clue that this wasn't a robbery but I wondered: The teller sounds possibly inexperienced, or possibly she had been present at a real bank robbery another time and was unwittingly biased to see such a request as a robbery etc. Not excuses but possible explanations.

I myself find it odd that a high-profile client wanting that amount of cash "discreetly" didn't simply ask to see a banker. No super secret room needs to be involved like some PPs posted; just ask to see a banker, you'll go to a desk or into a regular office, and can say what you want. They'll go out and deal the tellers for you and bring you the cash. Surprised he didn't just do that BUT also, it's not like it was $120,000, it was $12,000, and he probably has withdrawn that much with no issues before. It's just a pity that the teller reacted with the idea of robbery instead of asking a manager to come look at the note there and then.

And the bolded is exactly why the bank teller was found to be at fault. She had his account number. So she thought, oh he's robbing money from his own account? Somebody make it make sense.

If he also showed ID then she’s def a moron. Check with your manager but to push the bank robbery secret button is a bit of an overreaction. Perhaps it’s hormones. Bless her.

Pregnancy isn't an excuse. Where was her manager in this? It sounded like the manager she went to threw it back at her.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the woman who alerted someone to this, a black bank teller? I think that's what TMZ said. If so, this is not a karen situation.

Yes a Black pregnant Bank Teller. She fu&ked up. Apparently, she was processing the transaction and some sort of alert popped up on her screen because of the amount. So instead of calling her supervisor over to deal with the alert, she told her supervisor he was robbing the bank. The cops investigated and said she was at fault.

What an idiot.

He's the idiot. Look at the photos.

He should have asked to speak to the bank manager. This wasn't about race.

The photos are posted on the last page. I don't see anything in those photos that make him the idiot. The teller was at fault according to the police.

NP. The teller was at fault for identifying it as an attempted robbery. But let's not ignore the fact that the bank's systems automatically flagged the transaction for special attention because it was over $10,000. This is very common, folks, even if you yourselves have withdrawn more than 10 grand and weren't aware of any alert. In banking, taxes, transport of cash internationally (like carrying more than 10k with you overseas, and yes, it happens)--that amount gets flagged for attention. Mostly you aren't even aware it's happening. Of course the fact it was something as specific as $12,000 and the wording of the slip should have been a clue that this wasn't a robbery but I wondered: The teller sounds possibly inexperienced, or possibly she had been present at a real bank robbery another time and was unwittingly biased to see such a request as a robbery etc. Not excuses but possible explanations.

I myself find it odd that a high-profile client wanting that amount of cash "discreetly" didn't simply ask to see a banker. No super secret room needs to be involved like some PPs posted; just ask to see a banker, you'll go to a desk or into a regular office, and can say what you want. They'll go out and deal the tellers for you and bring you the cash. Surprised he didn't just do that BUT also, it's not like it was $120,000, it was $12,000, and he probably has withdrawn that much with no issues before. It's just a pity that the teller reacted with the idea of robbery instead of asking a manager to come look at the note there and then.

And the bolded is exactly why the bank teller was found to be at fault. She had his account number. So she thought, oh he's robbing money from his own account? Somebody make it make sense.

If he also showed ID then she’s def a moron. Check with your manager but to push the bank robbery secret button is a bit of an overreaction. Perhaps it’s hormones. Bless her.

Did you listen to the recording? She is absolutely an idiot. I think she knew who he was and was pissed that he wouldn't respond to her dumb questions. He told her multiple times to read the note. I think she is lying that she never looked at the name and I think she knew who he was and she had an attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the woman who alerted someone to this, a black bank teller? I think that's what TMZ said. If so, this is not a karen situation.

Yes a Black pregnant Bank Teller. She fu&ked up. Apparently, she was processing the transaction and some sort of alert popped up on her screen because of the amount. So instead of calling her supervisor over to deal with the alert, she told her supervisor he was robbing the bank. The cops investigated and said she was at fault.

What an idiot.

He's the idiot. Look at the photos.

He should have asked to speak to the bank manager. This wasn't about race.

The photos are posted on the last page. I don't see anything in those photos that make him the idiot. The teller was at fault according to the police.

NP. The teller was at fault for identifying it as an attempted robbery. But let's not ignore the fact that the bank's systems automatically flagged the transaction for special attention because it was over $10,000. This is very common, folks, even if you yourselves have withdrawn more than 10 grand and weren't aware of any alert. In banking, taxes, transport of cash internationally (like carrying more than 10k with you overseas, and yes, it happens)--that amount gets flagged for attention. Mostly you aren't even aware it's happening. Of course the fact it was something as specific as $12,000 and the wording of the slip should have been a clue that this wasn't a robbery but I wondered: The teller sounds possibly inexperienced, or possibly she had been present at a real bank robbery another time and was unwittingly biased to see such a request as a robbery etc. Not excuses but possible explanations.

I myself find it odd that a high-profile client wanting that amount of cash "discreetly" didn't simply ask to see a banker. No super secret room needs to be involved like some PPs posted; just ask to see a banker, you'll go to a desk or into a regular office, and can say what you want. They'll go out and deal the tellers for you and bring you the cash. Surprised he didn't just do that BUT also, it's not like it was $120,000, it was $12,000, and he probably has withdrawn that much with no issues before. It's just a pity that the teller reacted with the idea of robbery instead of asking a manager to come look at the note there and then.

And the bolded is exactly why the bank teller was found to be at fault. She had his account number. So she thought, oh he's robbing money from his own account? Somebody make it make sense.

If he also showed ID then she’s def a moron. Check with your manager but to push the bank robbery secret button is a bit of an overreaction. Perhaps it’s hormones. Bless her.

I don’t agree that any of this is right but it is possible she thought Coogler was pretending to be someone else and access their account since he was wearing sunglasses and a mask.

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It really does not make sense that she didn’t look at the name on the ID. So she was okay processing the transaction without verifying his identity? Isn’t that bank teller 101?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the woman who alerted someone to this, a black bank teller? I think that's what TMZ said. If so, this is not a karen situation.

Yes a Black pregnant Bank Teller. She fu&ked up. Apparently, she was processing the transaction and some sort of alert popped up on her screen because of the amount. So instead of calling her supervisor over to deal with the alert, she told her supervisor he was robbing the bank. The cops investigated and said she was at fault.

What an idiot.

He's the idiot. Look at the photos.

He should have asked to speak to the bank manager. This wasn't about race.

The photos are posted on the last page. I don't see anything in those photos that make him the idiot. The teller was at fault according to the police.

NP. The teller was at fault for identifying it as an attempted robbery. But let's not ignore the fact that the bank's systems automatically flagged the transaction for special attention because it was over $10,000. This is very common, folks, even if you yourselves have withdrawn more than 10 grand and weren't aware of any alert. In banking, taxes, transport of cash internationally (like carrying more than 10k with you overseas, and yes, it happens)--that amount gets flagged for attention. Mostly you aren't even aware it's happening. Of course the fact it was something as specific as $12,000 and the wording of the slip should have been a clue that this wasn't a robbery but I wondered: The teller sounds possibly inexperienced, or possibly she had been present at a real bank robbery another time and was unwittingly biased to see such a request as a robbery etc. Not excuses but possible explanations.

I myself find it odd that a high-profile client wanting that amount of cash "discreetly" didn't simply ask to see a banker. No super secret room needs to be involved like some PPs posted; just ask to see a banker, you'll go to a desk or into a regular office, and can say what you want. They'll go out and deal the tellers for you and bring you the cash. Surprised he didn't just do that BUT also, it's not like it was $120,000, it was $12,000, and he probably has withdrawn that much with no issues before. It's just a pity that the teller reacted with the idea of robbery instead of asking a manager to come look at the note there and then.

And the bolded is exactly why the bank teller was found to be at fault. She had his account number. So she thought, oh he's robbing money from his own account? Somebody make it make sense.

If he also showed ID then she’s def a moron. Check with your manager but to push the bank robbery secret button is a bit of an overreaction. Perhaps it’s hormones. Bless her.

I don’t agree that any of this is right but it is possible she thought Coogler was pretending to be someone else and access their account since he was wearing sunglasses and a mask.

possibly, but that’s not what she said in the 911 call.