Rick Perry ad, or how the gays (and Obama) stole Christmas

Anonymous
From Rick Perry's latest spot running in Iowa:

In the spot, "Strong," Perry says, "I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. As President, I’ll end Obama’s war on religion. And I’ll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage. Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.”

See it to believe it: http://www.rickperry.org/

jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.


Maybe you do need to be in a pew every Sunday, because I'm having a hard time understanding what's wrong.
Anonymous
It's called the Establishment Clause. Look into it.
Anonymous
That's some Top Notch Pandering. What's next, is he going to pose in a stable holding a baby?
Anonymous
When did Obama start the War on Religion? I think the fighting over prayer in school started before he was even born. Two Supreme Court decisions, Engel v. Vitale (1962) and Abington School District v. Schempp (1963), established what is now the current prohibition on state-sponsored prayer in schools. I think there was a Catholic in the White House when this happened. Maybe it was a Catholic conspiracy, no?

In Wallace v. Jaffree, (1985) an Alabama Statute authorizing a 1-minute period of silence in all public schools "for meditation or voluntary prayer" was a law respecting the establishment of religion and thus violated the First Amendment. In 1987, Edwards v. Aguillard, SCOTUS heald that Louisiana's "Creationism Act" that forbid the teaching of the theory of evolution in public elementary and secondary schools unless accompanied by instruction in the theory of "creation science" violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
Was this Reagan's War on Religion?

I'm having a hard time coming up with anything anti-religion under Obama. Rick Perry, can you please show me what landmark legislation or court cases Obama advocated that are a War on Religion?
takoma
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Perry is desperate, and either a bald-faced liar fomenting religious divisiveness, or too stupid to understand that religion is strongest when independent from government manipulation.

And the attack on gays ought to be prosecuted as a hate crime! I can see arguing that abandoning DADT might lead to morale problems, but he is simply gay-bashing after the fact, and inviting those morale problems when they have not arisen on their own.
Anonymous
Sadly, Christmas is the only safe topic for Rick Perry to speak on these days.
Anonymous
takoma wrote:And the attack on gays ought to be prosecuted as a hate crime!


OK. In a calm moment I think we can all agree that going after Perry for a "hate crime" is a bit much. Sadly, he is speaking to the thoughts of many Americans but rest easy in knowing this man has zero chance of becoming our President.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
takoma wrote:And the attack on gays ought to be prosecuted as a hate crime!


OK. In a calm moment I think we can all agree that going after Perry for a "hate crime" is a bit much. Sadly, he is speaking to the thoughts of many Americans but rest easy in knowing this man has zero chance of becoming our President.


Perry is a human? I'll be darned.
I thought it was a gorilla in a suit with the facial hair shaved off.
takoma
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Anonymous wrote:
takoma wrote:And the attack on gays ought to be prosecuted as a hate crime!
OK. In a calm moment I think we can all agree that going after Perry for a "hate crime" is a bit much. Sadly, he is speaking to the thoughts of many Americans but rest easy in knowing this man has zero chance of becoming our President.

Yes, I admit I was being hyperbolic. But I really do think that for a major politician to be undermining the law of the nation and the morale of the military, and encouraging divisiveness, is far more damaging than some nut painting a swastika on a synagogue. I don't mean to minimize the swastika, by the way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's some Top Notch Pandering. What's next, is he going to pose in a stable holding a baby?


and a gun!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's some Top Notch Pandering. What's next, is he going to pose in a stable holding a baby?


and a gun!


Anonymous
LOL! Pointing the gun at Santa!

That's not very Christian-like!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's some Top Notch Pandering. What's next, is he going to pose in a stable holding a baby?


and a gun!


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:LOL! Pointing the gun at Santa!

That's not very Christian-like!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's some Top Notch Pandering. What's next, is he going to pose in a stable holding a baby?


and a gun!




Baby Jesus looks right at home in camo. But what sealed it for me was "The Three Wise Men" at the top.
Anonymous
The ad is particularly ironic given Perry's own alleged extra-curricular activities. These are apparently well known in the Texan legal community.
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