SE tell me about it

Anonymous
Im in the process of looking for a place and found a place I can afford in SE that is a decent size also

tell me about SE I have an infant

would you live there? Do you? whats near by etc///

thanks
Anonymous
Uh oh. This could lead to trouble.
Anonymous
SE is a big place. Just like other quadrants of the city are difficult to generalize about, SE has lots of different neighborhoods, each with their own pros and cons, I'd imagine. Impossible to answer your question as it is posed. Details, maybe?
Anonymous
its on E street
Anonymous
I've heard good things about Hillcrest. If I could afford a large home w/yard in Eastern Market, I'd love to live there. Both those neighborhoods are in SE.
Anonymous
There have been lots of threads about Capitol Hill if you do a search. Your question about E Street probably depends on where on E St. 16th and E, for example, is quite a bit different from, say, 7th and E.

That said, I live near Eastern Market and love it. The closer in you are on the Hill, generally the safer and more convenient, but Hill East is rapidly changing and you can get more house for the money (with the obvious trade-offs that come with living closer to the edges of a transitioning neighborhood).
Anonymous
Also, there's an E St SE that intersects with Benning Road east of the river. I know a little about that neighborhood. Which side of the river are you talking about?
Anonymous
no way. wouldn't even consider it. better off buying an efficiency condo in nw dc. se isn't safe even the "good" parts are within a block or two of very unsafe neighborhoods.
Anonymous
Ignore the 15:49 PP -- for some reason there is always someone on this site who claims that ALL of SE is unsafe and that ALL of Capitol Hill is a slum. This is categorically untrue. There are perfectly safe, lovely, convenient (and frankly, quite expensive) parts of SE/Capitol Hill. It's utterly ridiculous... but if this attitude keeps the most offensive, ill-informed, and snobbiest DCUM types out of my neighborhood, I'm all for it. If you truly believe this, you are better off not living in a city at all because nowhere will be safe enough.

Additionally, it's hard to take someone seriously when they do not punctuate but do use use run-on sentences.
Anonymous
Elsinore Courtyard5312 E Street, SE, Washington, DC 20019

this is where I was looking at its in my price range but safety is the most important thing since I am a single mom with an infant...

I need to feel/be safe going out with my infant and coming home
Anonymous
I'm sorry, but I really wouldn't choose to live in this particular area if safety is important.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ignore the 15:49 PP -- for some reason there is always someone on this site who claims that ALL of SE is unsafe and that ALL of Capitol Hill is a slum. This is categorically untrue. There are perfectly safe, lovely, convenient (and frankly, quite expensive) parts of SE/Capitol Hill. It's utterly ridiculous... but if this attitude keeps the most offensive, ill-informed, and snobbiest DCUM types out of my neighborhood, I'm all for it. If you truly believe this, you are better off not living in a city at all because nowhere will be safe enough.

Additionally, it's hard to take someone seriously when they do not punctuate but do use use run-on sentences.


i love capitol hill and used to live there but at dark i never ever felt safe walking around there. in the winter, that poses a problem, as it gets dark early. i was not cracking on capitol hill i was just trying to give the op my opinion which is appears is why she posted her question on here. georgetown is lovely and expensive as well but actually georgetown has a lot more crime than people would think as well, as does adams morgan. the safest places are in upper nw dc. check out the mpd website for statistics. good luck op.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Elsinore Courtyard5312 E Street, SE, Washington, DC 20019

this is where I was looking at its in my price range but safety is the most important thing since I am a single mom with an infant...

I need to feel/be safe going out with my infant and coming home


OP, that's close to the district line at Southern Ave. My guess is that there are few people on these boards who can give you an accurate description of the neighborhood. I certainly don't know it and I know a few families who live east of the river but they're not near there.

I plugged the address into the MPD crime statistics map (http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/query.asp). The stats remind me of my neighborhood before it started to gentrify. Higher rate of homicides (most likely conflicts over drug dealing and domestic violence) but lower rates of robberies than you'd expect (because muggers go to wealthier neighborhoods). That was a big learning experience for me when I moved next to public housing. Middle class people were afraid of my neighborhood but the truth is they were more likely to get mugged on the wealthier blocks of Capitol Hill. Of course, homicide is pretty scary stuff but the truth is that the violence is between people who know each other and it didn't affect me.

For example, if you plug in 18th St NW and Columbia Rd NW, the heart of Adams-Morgan, within 1500 feet for the last year, you'll find NO homicides but a LOT of muggings (110) whereas for the address you mentioned there were 7 homicides but only 14 muggings in the last year. For Wisconsin Ave NW and M St NW in the heart of Georgetown, you'll find NO homicides but there were 27 muggings. Fourteen muggings is pretty low! Middle class people feel safer in Georgetown but you might actually be safer in that neighborhood!

So it all depends on your comfort zone. I'd suggest going over to that neighborhood at different times of the day and looking around to see if there are certain corners where a lot of people hang out. You don't want the drug dealers right on your corner because some of those folks shoot at each other and they're not careful about who they hit! It's really a block by block thing. You may find that it's a perfectly livable neighborhood with neighbors who have lived there a long time and look out for each other -- or you may find it's too dangerous for you. One thing is for sure -- I don't think you're likely to find anyone on these boards who has direct experience of that neighborhood and who can give you the feedback you need.

One thing: Will you have a car? I checked the www.wmata.com for closest available service. You're about a mile from the Capital Heights metro and the closest bus is the U5/U6 which runs about every 20 minutes. Not the most convenient arrangement. Another thing to consider, if you take mass transit, is what is the path to the bus stop like? As well as how easy is it to get to shops and other services.

Anyway, I wish I had direct experience with the neighborhood and could tell you more. I suggest spending a bit of time there and listening and watching and see how you feel about it. Good luck!
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