Evelyn Muhlhan - another homebirth midwife bites the dust?

[Anonymous]

What's going on here? Anyone have info on this beyond what's available on this site: http://saveourmidwifeevelyn.weebly.com/

[Anonymous]

Unless you are currently under Evelyn's care for midwifery services, why do you need more information besides what's posted on her website? It seems like it gives readers an honest explanation of what's going on.

I suppose if you are truly on a need to know basis, you could try calling her office and asking her yourself. [phone]

[Anonymous]

Look, I'm not the OP but if she's linking to places where people can donate up to $500 for her legal defense, I think giving a few more details about her situation would not be out of line.

[Anonymous]

Oh yes, it seems like a very honest explanation of what is going on.

Give me a break.

Peer review sucks when you are a bad peer doesn't it?

[Anonymous]

If Evelyn wanted to put more details out there for the public, she would have done so herself. I just don't see the point in gossiping about the situation when she's already made public the basic info about her situation.

If you want more details, call her yourself. Don't ask around anonymously on a public message board.

[Anonymous]

so if i lose my job due to circumstances beyond my control, can i set up a web site to collect donations for myself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so if i lose my job due to circumstances beyond my control, can i set up a web site to collect donations for myself?

You sure can!

Best of luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YES, as I stated before natural home birthing is much more dangerous than hospital births. Would you want a vet operating on your heart on a dirty table in your basement?

Here we go AGAIN. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:whats up with the picture of the one couple, are they both giving birth?

Especially in a natural childbirth, both partners need to be as much "in it" as possible. It's far different from some medicated births where I've heard women say that their epidural took so well that they didn't know it was time to push until the nurse told them they were dilated fully.

Had a section myself, but your tone seems snarky from a place of ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you are currently under Evelyn's care for midwifery services, why do you need more information besides what's posted on her website? It seems like it gives readers an honest explanation of what's going on.

I suppose if you are truly on a need to know basis, you could try calling her office and asking her yourself. [phone]

Perhaps because she's concerned about women's reproductive rights. Home birth has been under fire for as long as there have been hospitals in the modern sense. Having read the link to Evelyn's site, I am curious, too. It doesn't sound like anything unsafe necessarily happened, it sounds like one or two OBs complained. There are safe home births, especially now that women are generally well nourished and have good prenatal care.

[Anonymous]

Yes because OBs aren't concerned about women's reproductive rights. Got it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes because OBs aren't concerned about women's reproductive rights. Got it now.

There's more to reproductive rights and choice than whatever wan grey meaning you're giving it.

Consider that for those OBs who would have all women give birth in the hospital, with all the rules and regs that frequently follow whether or not they are evidence based or in the patients' best interest, are, in fact, acting against choice in birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes because OBs aren't concerned about women's reproductive rights. Got it now.

There's more to reproductive rights and choice than whatever wan grey meaning you're giving it.

Consider that for those OBs who would have all women give birth in the hospital, with all the rules and regs that frequently follow whether or not they are evidence based or in the patients' best interest, are, in fact, acting against choice in birth.

and you know this because you went to med school and completed a multi-year residency in Ob & Gyn and have seen most of all complications that can happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YES, as I stated before natural home birthing is much more dangerous than hospital births. Would you want a vet operating on your heart on a dirty table in your basement?

No, I am pretty sure the stats for this say the opposite. I am all for hospital birth with doctors and nurses but I have not problem with those who choose home birth or the use of a midwife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes because OBs aren't concerned about women's reproductive rights. Got it now.

There's more to reproductive rights and choice than whatever wan grey meaning you're giving it.

Consider that for those OBs who would have all women give birth in the hospital, with all the rules and regs that frequently follow whether or not they are evidence based or in the patients' best interest, are, in fact, acting against choice in birth.

and you know this because you went to med school and completed a multi-year residency in Ob & Gyn and have seen most of all complications that can happen?

Because I can read and I have read studies that say, for example, that if a laboring woman desires to eat that allowing her to do so improves outcomes. I think the average OB knows this and I think that in a less litigious world they'd allow this for 97% of women. Insurance and hospital policy dictate otherwise.

And you just outlined the biggest OB/midwifery dichotomy yourself: far and away the vast majority of births do not have complications, and while complications can arise in any labor and birth, they can usually be identified by a well trained midwife who is then equipped to deal with them or can transfer. I think if hospital births were more humane with fewer rules (you must have a hep lock, you may not eat or drink, you must be monitored this many minutes of every hour, you must have the baby within x many hours, etc) I would actively advocate against home births. But once you have been admitted in most hospitals, you will be following hospital protocol, whether or not your situation dictates it. Until then, though, I will advocate for women to have the home birth option.