Free-range kids picked up AGAIN by police

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Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

They have managed to provoke police, CPS, and the school all looking for a reaction and attention when instead of starting unnecessary wars they should be supervising their kids. She can easily take a laptop and do her writing and internet posting from a park bench.

Gotta love parents telling other parents how to raise their kids.

I think next time I am at the park, I am going to go up to the helicopter that follows their kid around 1 foot away the whole time and tell them what I think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

They have managed to provoke police, CPS, and the school all looking for a reaction and attention when instead of starting unnecessary wars they should be supervising their kids. She can easily take a laptop and do her writing and internet posting from a park bench.

But why should she, when the kids don't need supervision?

She may not think they need supervision but others clearly do. Again, given the issue at hand, common sense is to bring a laptop to the playground and be available to your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is that people are going to the police instead of directly to a parent.

If I saw a 4yo alone out, I would talk to his/her parent, not the police.

These parents have been spoken to on numerous occasions by CPS and the school - see her comments via her Facebook page. She is doing it her way and doesn't care what anyone else thinks.

So what? You may do the same, if you want to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

They have managed to provoke police, CPS, and the school all looking for a reaction and attention when instead of starting unnecessary wars they should be supervising their kids. She can easily take a laptop and do her writing and internet posting from a park bench.

But why should she, when the kids don't need supervision?

She may not think they need supervision but others clearly do. Again, given the issue at hand, common sense is to bring a laptop to the playground and be available to your kids.

Common sense is to let parents decide how much supervision their kids need -- absent child neglect, which this isn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

They have managed to provoke police, CPS, and the school all looking for a reaction and attention when instead of starting unnecessary wars they should be supervising their kids. She can easily take a laptop and do her writing and internet posting from a park bench.

Gotta love parents telling other parents how to raise their kids.

I think next time I am at the park, I am going to go up to the helicopter that follows their kid around 1 foot away the whole time and tell them what I think.

Please do. If you are the lazy one sitting on the bench while your kid comes up to us asking to help them, play with them, etc. we'd be happy to tell you what we think as well. Some parents actually engage and play with their kids and assist them on things they need help with. We get so tired of being free babysitters and will happily tell you to play with your own kid. If we sit for a few minutes, our kids ask us to come play.

[Anonymous]

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My six year old can give you directions to somewhere he wants to go 30 minutes away, including street names and where to turn. He could very easily walk to any of the playgrounds in our neighborhood. That doesn't mean its ok for him to go alone. I grew up in this area and it was not normal for a 6 year old to be out on their own.

How old are you?

And why isn't it ok for him to go alone? Not that anybody will make you let him go alone. You're the one who decides whether or not he's ready. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

They have managed to provoke police, CPS, and the school all looking for a reaction and attention when instead of starting unnecessary wars they should be supervising their kids. She can easily take a laptop and do her writing and internet posting from a park bench.

But why should she, when the kids don't need supervision?

She may not think they need supervision but others clearly do. Again, given the issue at hand, common sense is to bring a laptop to the playground and be available to your kids.

Common sense is to let parents decide how much supervision their kids need -- absent child neglect, which this isn't.

It absolutely is neglect for the 6 year old. That is not common sense. So, since my kid can give you driving directions or which bus to take to somewhere, should I allow my six year old to go where ever he wants because he can? He's more accurate than our GPS sometimes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

Dad is a scientist.

So is the mother: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielleluttenbergmeitiv

Mom is Jewish! she totally escapes the stereotype of a Jewish mother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

My six year old can give you directions to somewhere he wants to go 30 minutes away, including street names and where to turn. He could very easily walk to any of the playgrounds in our neighborhood. That doesn't mean its ok for him to go alone. I grew up in this area and it was not normal for a 6 year old to be out on their own.

How old are you?

And why isn't it ok for him to go alone? Not that anybody will make you let him go alone. You're the one who decides whether or not he's ready. See how that works?

I am old enough to know a six year old needs guidance and supervision. Its not about being ready. By the standards here, since he could, he is ready. That is absolutely insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Common sense is to let parents decide how much supervision their kids need -- absent child neglect, which this isn't.

It absolutely is neglect for the 6 year old. That is not common sense. So, since my kid can give you driving directions or which bus to take to somewhere, should I allow my six year old to go where ever he wants because he can? He's more accurate than our GPS sometimes.

Of course you shouldn't allow your six-year-old to go wherever he wants because he can. You should allow your six-year-old to go places you think he's ready to go, in ways you think he's ready for. Just as the Meitivs are trying to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 130 pages for someone to mention that the mom isn't a scientist or whatever she's been portrayed in the news but a writer of (bad) erotic fiction?!?!?! Somehow that just makes the whole story that much more ridiculous. (The ridiculous part being that they have managed to provoke a massive amount of press around a nonexistent threat from overbearing police, CPS, school secretaries and others....)

Dad is a scientist.

So is the mother: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielleluttenbergmeitiv

Mom is Jewish! she totally escapes the stereotype of a Jewish mother.

She was a scientist. Now she is either not working or at home writing, which makes less of an excuse not to supervise her kids when they are in school all day. She hasn't worked as one in several years.

You are right. She is about the exact opposite of any Jewish mom I know, including my own.

[Anonymous]

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Please do. If you are the lazy one sitting on the bench while your kid comes up to us asking to help them, play with them, etc. we'd be happy to tell you what we think as well. Some parents actually engage and play with their kids and assist them on things they need help with. We get so tired of being free babysitters and will happily tell you to play with your own kid. If we sit for a few minutes, our kids ask us to come play.

If you want to tell a kid at a playground to go away and leave you alone, you may do that.

However, I think it's probably a mistake to assume that all children at the playground whose parents don't actively play with them want to play with you.

[Anonymous]

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Because kids have needs. They need supervision, they need help with things, etc. We get so tired of going to the playground having kids insisting on us playing with them, entertaining them, trying to eat our snacks (sorry, no, not without parents permission and bring your own), and insisting we lift them, push them on the swing, try to ride our bikes, scooters. We aren't lifting or touching another child except in an emergency - not taking the risk of being accused of something. Most parents who are at the park are so checked out and have no clue or don't care what their kids are doing. It always amazes us.

Yes, all kids have needs. In fact, all human beings have needs. That doesn't mean that all kids (aged 0-17) need equal levels of supervision and equal help with the same things. At some point, kids are able to go to the park by themselves. The question is, when?

Not at age 6.

Actually, there are six-year-olds who are able to go to the park by themselves. That is a fact.

Also a fact: it used to be normal for six-year-olds to go to the park (and other places) by themselves.

Lots of parents do lots of irresponsible things; but whether you want to admit it or not, there's a reason that children under 8 shouldn't be left alone at home or allowed to walk to the park. Government agencies have recognized that fact and established policies to protect young children.

[Anonymous]

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Lots of parents do lots of irresponsible things; but whether you want to admit it or not, there's a reason that children under 8 shouldn't be left alone at home or allowed to walk to the park. Government agencies have recognized that fact and established policies to protect young children.

What is the reason that children under 8 shouldn't be allowed to walk to the park?

[Anonymous]

The parents are lazy and stupid. Poor kids.