Paul Manafort Told to Surrender

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

I guess we shall see how well your opinion ages. The one about how Mueller will find nothing certainly has not.

Mueller has not found anything connected to the campaign, which is why he's using previous tax returns to charge Manafort.

The opinion that Mueller has found nothing on anyone in connection to Trump's campaign stands well, right now.

So you agree that there may be more charges coming.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

I guess we shall see how well your opinion ages. The one about how Mueller will find nothing certainly has not.

If this were simply an old tax issue, the lawyers involved would not have hired their own lawyers!!

Yes, because people charged with tax issues NEVER hire tax lawyers!

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

[Anonymous]

Just an old tax issue.....LOL. Is that gonna be the spin?

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

OK! Well I guess we'll have to wait for season 2 to see what happens next.

As always, I remain impressed with how *optimistic* you Trump supporters are. I thought I recalled you guys saying a few days ago that Mueller should just shut down his investigation because it hadn't turned up anything, which was just days before Trump's campaign manager was arrested for conspiring against the country with foreign agents. But look at you - still with the stars in your eyes!

If Mueller had anything of substance, we'd be seeing it right now.

Not really. There is no timetable on this kind of investigation, but you develop a strategy based on the evidence gained, the witnesses interviewed and then you execute accordingly. This isn't it, it is just the beginning.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

Wasn't Manafort working for a bank that had the Podesta brothers on the board when he did this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

Thank you, fellow sane person.
Mueller isn't going to play tax games with Manafort if he has anything of substance on any big fish. This isn't a long range 3 D chess game. Mueller has been investigating a long time, and this is all he could come up with.

But by all means, the babies here can continue cooing and reaching for the shiny object. Apparently real life holds no lure for them. Fantasy land, engage!

Donald Trump's campaign manager has been charged with conspiracy against the United States. Did you not see that?

I am so curious why someone like you just routinely defends Manafort? Don't be such a knee jerk Republican. Most true Republicans have long turned on Trump's sleazy and incompetent presidency. Why bother defending this guy? Why not be open to these charges and the other ones that will likely follow? This isn't you. You don't have to fear the charges or prentend they aren't a big deal. Follow the truth. That's patriotic.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

I guess we shall see how well your opinion ages. The one about how Mueller will find nothing certainly has not.

If this were simply an old tax issue, the lawyers involved would not have hired their own lawyers!!

Yes, because people charged with tax issues NEVER hire tax lawyers!

It commonplace for lawyers to hire their own lawyers. PP, you’re delusional if you think this is merely an old tax problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

I guess we shall see how well your opinion ages. The one about how Mueller will find nothing certainly has not.

If this were simply an old tax issue, the lawyers involved would not have hired their own lawyers!!

Yes, because people charged with tax issues NEVER hire tax lawyers!

The lawyers PP is talking about aren't tax lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just an old tax issue.....LOL. Is that gonna be the spin?

Spin me right round baby right round like a <broken> record baby right round...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

I guess we shall see how well your opinion ages. The one about how Mueller will find nothing certainly has not.

If this were simply an old tax issue, the lawyers involved would not have hired their own lawyers!!

Yes, because people charged with tax issues NEVER hire tax lawyers!

It commonplace for lawyers to hire their own lawyers. PP, you’re delusional if you think this is merely an old tax problem.

Ok, what problem is it? Post links and citations to any and all problems.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

Um, all the reporting that got Manafort fired from the campaign?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

If you are interested in sources, read through the Trump white paper posted on the other thread. It has all the sources and info you could possibly want. Its not other people's job to do your research for you. I'm surprised that someone who is so interested in the news as to be posting actively on a politics forum hasn't followed the news enough to understand this fact is commonly known.

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It is NOT common for lawyers to hire their own lawyers to defend their lawyering. NOT common.