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Anonymous wrote:Re: The problem with Glen Carlyn


For those of you sitting in much nicer locations in Arlington- let me give you a little insight to the homeowner's of Glen Carlyn. * I also encourage you to do a drive by on Carlin Springs rd. Go into the neighborhood, it's very charming once you get into it.

So, I got to know some of these people during the affordable housing master plan thingy. They are nice people. Probably way too nice. I find that to be the issue with many people in South Arlington. The difference with the GC citizens, they've been fucked over enough by the county at this point, they are getting wise to the Arlington Way.
The streetcar being cancelled was a huge blow to this area. It was to bring desperately needed gentrification. Please drive Carlin springs and the west end of the Pike- it's a shit hole.
The new AH built looks nice, but you'll notice The Shell has empty retail. How many years has it been now? No buisness is moving in. They (businesses) look at the popution, how much income, and won't risk it.
But the west end is still getting all the crap that came with the Columbia Pike revitalization. More and more poor people, with no amenities or transportation to support them.
Remember that premium bus services that was gonna be implemented pronto? Yeah me neither.
You'll have to forgive them if they aren't willing to trust the county will do right by them. Hell, being zoned WL is one of the few things their property values have going for them, and now you want them to accept a new high school that might one day have the ammenties that everyone has? Sitting in the exact spot where the county's "worst" middle school sits?
Don't worry we will balance those demographics out for it... sure...

The Glen Carlyn people are finally understanding how things get done. They are tired of being the dumping ground.

Can't say I blame them. I don't live over there and I support the Kenmore site. I see how great it could work, but I hardly blame them for their cynicism.

I drive by carlin springs about 3 to 5 times a week. I don't disagree that the affordable housing has killed parts of it. If you are thinking WL helps property values, how will that continue with 4000 plus students? The fact is that land is scarce and that parcel and VHC are the only large lots left for a 4th.

Like I said earlier, they should do a blind lottery for who gets zoned so everyone is invested in ensuring the 4th site gets everything the other 3 have. Why couldn't they create a 2nd WL? In the meantime, create an HB west. I would definitely want my kid to go to an HB.

You are talking about bussing to the new school. Never gonna happen.

[Anonymous]

In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

[Anonymous]

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taxpayers without children would be jumping for joys for not having to fund yet another $50M facility.

but i get it. you want WL to stay the way it is, because you like it that way![/quote]

No shit head. I do not want my kids attending HS on a campus with 4000 kids. How is that so f---king hard for anyone to understand? They talk about inequities b/c there's no pool or football field. I could give a shit about those two amenities. How is it fair for 4000 students to have to share a campus when the other 2 comprehensive HS's will be much smaller?

I also agree that building up the Ed Center pretty much guarantees the students for many years after will be stuck there. Is this really the best that Arlington can do? This is like a real freaking nightmare scenario.

Wow -- I asked about the library, but I am not the one hurling profanity after your response.

I'd like to think that taxpayers of all ages would be willing to fund a school at Kenmore if there were a plan to turn it into a comprehensive high school over time (could the county please back up on the aquatic center until we know if there's going to be a 4th pool in the Carlin Springs neighborhood?) and there were a detailed plan to address traffic.

Your first post was pretty sarcastic. Please spare me the mock outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

6 to one 1/2 dozen to another. We do it at schools- they do it at rec centers. The county was looking to build another pool anyway. They need to move it and the money over to Kenmore. Kill two birds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

Ditto. And it just keeps coming: https://www.arlnow.com/2017/04/26/red-cross-building-to-be-replaced-by-affordable-housing-townhomes/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand the concern that Kenmore wouldn't get all the same amenities as the other schools right away. That sucks. But we have to face reality and do something NOW. Schools are different. My kid is at McKinley: don't tell me it has all the same amenities as Discovery. That sucks too.

And there may not be a pool there but maybe the kids can just swim at Long Branch!

https://www.arlnow.com/2017/04/25/breaking-county-moving-ahead-with-long-bridge-park-aquatic-center/?mc_cid=ec146e7ac2&mc_eid=21ba11b556

The priorities of this country never cease to amaze me.

Priorities or constituencies? You can bet your bottom dollar that if there was open land in the north but the SB said they couldn't put in a pool or football stadium, people would lose their minds and blow gaskets. Look at Discovery Elementary vs. the renovations at Abingdon. I'm sure that the new elementary at the TJ site won't have a slide, for example, which we as adults can all agree is stupid, but the kids see it. I live in South Arlington, but my child is at ATS. He has attended a variety of camps, programs., classes, etc. at a number of schools across the county, and asked me (when he was in K or 1st) why certain schools in the South looked shabbier than those in the North. Mine will be in high school before the 4th school would come online, but if they are going to cut those amenities, what else will they cut that we can't see just by the outside of the building?

[Anonymous]

What about the land at the new aquatic center? Make it another HS with crazy pools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the land at the new aquatic center? Make it another HS with crazy pools?

The Long Bridge site cannot be used as a school because of environmental contamination and location under the flight path for the airport (that's a state regulation).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

Ditto. And it just keeps coming: https://www.arlnow.com/2017/04/26/red-cross-building-to-be-replaced-by-affordable-housing-townhomes/

For the love of God! Did you miss the addict treatment center that is being built in Courthouse?!?!!! That's also bringing some wonderful people to the area just like the new homeless center that has increased homeless around my street by 75%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about the land at the new aquatic center? Make it another HS with crazy pools?

The Long Bridge site cannot be used as a school because of environmental contamination and location under the flight path for the airport (that's a state regulation).

Yet Arlington Soccer has the majority of its fields there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the land at the new aquatic center? Make it another HS with crazy pools?

It's a former Superfund site, so it can't have a school or other building that people would occupy all day long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

Ditto. And it just keeps coming: https://www.arlnow.com/2017/04/26/red-cross-building-to-be-replaced-by-affordable-housing-townhomes/

Holy hell. This is in Buckingham, zoned Barrrett. Just keep building more AH in the poorest neighborhoods zoned to Title 1 schools. HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Fairfax County, where I grew up, we had pools at rec centers and not in high schools. I'm sure this is unpopular, but I think it's stupid that the Arlington high schools were built with pools to begin with. I understand they're a public benefit, but the county put themselves in this "amenities" situation.

Bottom line is, the county is ineffectively using and allocating the land they currently have. The speed of development isn't helping either. I wish they would have stepped back and slowed down 10 years ago before it became this dire.

6 to one 1/2 dozen to another. We do it at schools- they do it at rec centers. The county was looking to build another pool anyway. They need to move it and the money over to Kenmore. Kill two birds.

I just find it to be poor planning. Now you have the burden of pool management, and the associated traffic, wear and tear, etc. on the schools instead of separately on parks and rec. I live near the Walter Reed community center, for instance, and fail to really see the utility in how most of that space is used. There could have been a pool there, or at Barcroft, etc. I just think associating them with high schools was a bad choice to begin with.

[Anonymous]

I fail to see how this benefits S Arlington in any way. How would the demographics look? Boundaries? From where I sit it looks like another way to appease N Arlington and screw S Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see how this benefits S Arlington in any way. How would the demographics look? Boundaries? From where I sit it looks like another way to appease N Arlington and screw S Arlington.

Hardly, considering many at WL come from South Arlington and would be stuck at a 4,000 student HS.