SELA teacher exodus

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP - we are also an enrolled Sela PreK3 family and feel the same as you. If the school closes mid- year I don't know what we will do- but how likely will they close mid-year? Won't the charter board have to then step in and work with families?


NP. I would not worry about this. I think the PCSB would ensure that it was in operation for the full year, and then help with the transition to another school if it shut down at the end of the year. That's what happened with the schools that they shut down this year--it was effective the end of the year, and they ensured that the students had the right to go to another school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And what if there is a tornado that blows the school away? And what if aliens invaded and took it over? And what if it falls into a sinkhole?

I mean, really, do we have to live with such fear?


Yeah, clearly those are just as likely as a poorly managed school shutting down


Yeah, but the consequences of them are all the same, in that you'll have to figure out another option for your kid. Sad that you can't see that.
Anonymous
When will their website be updated? I can't find information about the 15-16 daily schedules, and would like to see updated teacher information for the upcoming year.
Anonymous
I have always been curious how SELA in its first year of operation received a surplus DCPS school building. How did they get this building when other schools have operated out of churches and temporary locations for years, vying for surplus DCPS schools? It has always seemed fishy to me. Thus, I concluded that they (BOD) have some pretty high political connections in the city. With those connections, SELA will still be around.
Anonymous
I think we definitely understand that we will have to chose another option, which some of us may be planning on anyway. Some of us have NO other option at this point. If you have additional suggestions please let us know.
Anonymous
I have always been curious how SELA in its first year of operation received a surplus DCPS school building. How did they get this building when other schools have operated out of churches and temporary locations for years, vying for surplus DCPS schools? It has always seemed fishy to me. Thus, I concluded that they (BOD) have some pretty high political connections in the city. With those connections, SELA will still be around.


Doesn't Douglas Development own that building?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I have always been curious how SELA in its first year of operation received a surplus DCPS school building. How did they get this building when other schools have operated out of churches and temporary locations for years, vying for surplus DCPS schools? It has always seemed fishy to me. Thus, I concluded that they (BOD) have some pretty high political connections in the city. With those connections, SELA will still be around.


Doesn't Douglas Development own that building?


Yes - Douglas Development owns the building. They lease it to SELA. http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2013/01/douglas-development-corp-acquires.html

Prior to that it was occupied (perhaps owned) by a charter called Young America Works which had its charter revoked in 2010.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When will their website be updated? I can't find information about the 15-16 daily schedules, and would like to see updated teacher information for the upcoming year.



http://www.selapcs.org/#!resources/c2208

MUCH DIFFERENT than what is posted on the typical day at Sela which is what the charter indicated and what was approved by the PCSB...

http://www.selapcs.org/#!schedule/c21fa

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will their website be updated? I can't find information about the 15-16 daily schedules, and would like to see updated teacher information for the upcoming year.



http://www.selapcs.org/#!resources/c2208

MUCH DIFFERENT than what is posted on the typical day at Sela which is what the charter indicated and what was approved by the PCSB...

http://www.selapcs.org/#!schedule/c21fa



I have seen this stated a few times about Sela potentially violating its charter by changing its program. My understanding is that the charters aren't that restrictive. If they did away with immersion altogether they would be in violation of their charter, but I don't see a switch of immersion models as being a big enough change to necessitate any PCSB approval. Not saying it's something acceptable to parents, but its a curriculum change. As long as its not too drastic, they have leeway to do that. That's part of the fundamental ideas of charters.

I may be wrong about this, but would like to see more specific information showing how moving from full immersion to 50:50 would be a violation of their charter and require PCSB approval.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And what if there is a tornado that blows the school away? And what if aliens invaded and took it over? And what if it falls into a sinkhole?

I mean, really, do we have to live with such fear?


Yeah, clearly those are just as likely as a poorly managed school shutting down


Yeah, but the consequences of them are all the same, in that you'll have to figure out another option for your kid. Sad that you can't see that.


Risk = probability x consequences, so yeah, if the consequences are equal, I work more on avoiding the higher probability problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And what if there is a tornado that blows the school away? And what if aliens invaded and took it over? And what if it falls into a sinkhole?

I mean, really, do we have to live with such fear?


Says someone who clearly is not planning on enrolling at Sela or has other options...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And what if there is a tornado that blows the school away? And what if aliens invaded and took it over? And what if it falls into a sinkhole?

I mean, really, do we have to live with such fear?


Yeah, clearly those are just as likely as a poorly managed school shutting down


Yeah, but the consequences of them are all the same, in that you'll have to figure out another option for your kid. Sad that you can't see that.


Not PP but you're being ridiculous. Parents with few or no other choices are finding out the choice they thought they had made is in crisis, and they're not able to get any answers. That is a natural environment for panic, concern, speculation, etc. You're trying to make parents feel silly for having absolutely reasonable, predictable concern about a bad situation, and there's no reason to not also wonder if the school might shut down mid-year when in the 1st 2 years of being open, Sela lost several teachers mid-year and now the year is ending and they're losing a huge number.

But hey, if you get your jollies trying to make reasonable people feel foolish for absolutely legitimate concerns, have at it. You wouldn't be the first person here with nothing better to do.
Anonymous
Former Sela teacher here- I'm not 100% sure, but I seem to remember someone saying that the charter allows for a change of immersion method if the school sees it as necessary for academics. Again, not completely positive, but I seem to remember hearing that at some point.
Anonymous
How were they able to lease their building? It's got to be at least 20k square feet. Interesting that Douglas Development gave them a lease. Are they looking for someone to lease the Shining Stars space when they move?
Anonymous
I appreciate that the original posting was concerning, but I think this has gone on a bit long and a bit far without any corroboration with this story. I am strongly considering sending my son to Sela next year for PK3. On the plus side, I spoke to two teachers from Sela who taught the PK4 classes this year. I also spoke with a recent parent whose child was in PK4.

Both the teachers and the PK4 parent were so effusively positive that I am basically shocked to read these postings, and I question these postings. Are these all real? Are all of them from concerned parents? Is it possible that some of these are from internet trolls with an axe to grind?

One teacher is one of the Hebrew teachers who left for Israel this year. He left because his wife finished her post-doc at a local university, and she got a permanent position in Israel. His wife's sister is a good friend of mine from graduate school. I don't see why he would lie to me. The other teacher I spoke with is staying. She is a Hebrew teacher and she said she only knew of two Hebrew teachers who are leaving. She told me the only teachers that left were those who had to for family reasons. Both teachers were so positive that it seemed that they saw Sela as part of their personal identities. The PK4 teacher who had to move back to Israel actually told me that he will always feel like he is part of the Sela family. To me, it sounds like a major endorsement from a person who would still be teaching at Sela if family circumstances allowed him to stay in the US.

In addition, in the email that the principal sent to parents at the end of the year, Dr. Arthurs announced that two new hires would be Hebrew teachers with over 12 years of experience. Those new teachers are not on short-term visas, so they are likely to stay for some time. While the school had a number of postings for new jobs, some of those postings may very well have been for the two new teachers that Dr. Arthurs announced. Moreover, the school is expanding by adding PK3 classrooms. This does not sound like a school that is in disarray.

Regarding the issue of immersion, I am going to directly quote from the email:

"As you know, we are expanding and will offer Pre-K3 during the upcoming school year. Pre-K3 and Pre-K4 students will still receive full Hebrew immersion, while also receiving approximately an hour of English each day from a Pre-K English-speaking teacher (similar to this school year). Kindergarten students will still receive Hebrew Language instruction about 50% of their instructional time each day instead of receiving Hebrew all day on one day and English all day on the next day."

I don't have any information about the rest of the school, but for now, that's not my concern. Sela is a new school, and it had a rocky first year. But, in my understanding, the second year went quite well. Dr. Arthurs seems to be a great addition, and she is an administrator who earned the admiration of the teachers I spoke to. Moreover, I found her to be extremely nice, personable, and caring.

I think as parents, you have to decide what you want for your children. Immersion for the PK classes is seemingly assured. Immersion seems like a good idea to me. I will think about the kindergarten class and beyond when I need to.

I can't say much about how the front office works at Sela. I send emails to the principal. She answers my emails. Not within seconds but within a very reasonable amount of time. I know that they can't answer some things easily. For instance, there was an RFP for transport services. They are supposed to come up with a response for that RFP by July 31st, as per the public document. So, until they know, I am not sure that they can answer the questions.

My one fear is that this DCUrbanMom thread will scare off parents who would otherwise have sent their kids to Sela. I don't know if that is the case, however, because I can't verify anything

But one thing I do know. My quote above is a direct quote from Dr. Arthurs' email to parents, sent on June 21st. It starts off: "Dear Awesome Sela Families,"

If you were a Sela parent, or a parent whose child matched at Sela for next year, you probably received that message from Dr. Arthurs. So, you know at least that my posting is genuine. About these other people, I can't be sure. Is there any other evidence that you can provide to suggest that you are who you say you are? Is there

Moreover, are you talking about facts? Do you know actual teachers, or are you spreading other people's rumors?

Their first year didn't go well. Fine. But, the second year (i.e. last year) sounds like it went pretty well, and I want to focus on the future anyway. If you have concerns, by all means, post them, but let's not hear from people who are against the very idea of a Hebrew charter school (would they be against a Danish charter school? or a Quechua charter school?). Parents can decide for themselves about things like that. The questions that are legitimate are: does Sela do a good job at what it claims to do? Does it educate its kids with love and with love of its target language? Does it prepare its students for their future?

Those are the real questions. I wish I knew more parents at Sela. I don't. But the one parent I do know loved it. The only problem she had was the location -- it was too far from home, and so she is changing schools for her child. But that said, if the logistics weren't a problem, she would continue at Sela. Why is there so much negativity on this thread? How can these people that I know, who have absolutely no reason to lie to me, be wrong?

I think this thread is full of trolls, and I am deeply suspicious of the negative posters who are stating unverifiable rumors.
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