Murch Boundary Change

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst is about 10% in bounds.

Seriously??? That number is not correct. Even if it were, it does not matter because there is no IB/OOBs distinction at Hearst. No one cares about that at Hearst. It NEVER comes up. People who care about that don't come to Hearst (and that works best for everyone). Hearst and Eaton (both Ward 3) have very similar school cultures. Open, diverse, welcoming of all.

IB, OOB and OOD students at Hearst. OOD=Out of District, and there certainly are a lot of Maryland license plates at drop-off and pick-up. They really need a rigorous audit to ensure that Hearst is not educating non-resident kids for free.

You obviously don't have a child at Hearst because your comment is ignorant of any facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearst is about 10% in bounds.

Seriously??? That number is not correct. Even if it were, it does not matter because there is no IB/OOBs distinction at Hearst. No one cares about that at Hearst. It NEVER comes up. People who care about that don't come to Hearst (and that works best for everyone). Hearst and Eaton (both Ward 3) have very similar school cultures. Open, diverse, welcoming of all.

IB, OOB and OOD students at Hearst. OOD=Out of District, and there certainly are a lot of Maryland license plates at drop-off and pick-up. They really need a rigorous audit to ensure that Hearst is not educating non-resident kids for free.

You obviously don't have a child at Hearst because your comment is ignorant of any facts.

Check it out yourself, The eyes don't deceive. A VERY noticeable number of Hearst students commute in MD vehicles.

[Anonymous]

If you don't even go to the school, how would you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't even go to the school, how would you know?

Don't feed the troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't even go to the school, how would you know?

Don't feed the troll.

More like, don't spill the beans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But the corner taking the hit is the corner with the most SES diversity in the school boundary!

And? They will go to Hearst now.

I have heard talk about this area joining with Crestwood to put forward a DoJ case. Does anyone have additional information about this?

Yeah, no way they could win it. Good luck trying though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that PP is looking at the MD plates on cars with non-white people in them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

C'mon, why so defensive about something that happens all over the city. My IB school has tons of parents with MD license plates. Do I know if that child also has a parent that lives in DC? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

C'mon, why so defensive about something that happens all over the city. My IB school has tons of parents with MD license plates. Do I know if that child also has a parent that lives in DC? No.

But that's my point. I do know, because we are a small, tight knit community. Do I know every kid in the school? No, of course not. But I know in a few cases of custody and grandparents because I know the parents. And the assertion that there are large of numbers of OOD kids at Hearst is simply false. I am "defensive" because I'm tired of all of the false information that is constantly posted about the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that PP is looking at the MD plates on cars with non-white people in them.

FYI - some non-white Marylanders attend Sidwell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

Sidwell Friends has different drop off and pick up times than Hearst and seems to have staff outside managing the line. The Hearst times are different and the kids are definitely going to/from Hearst. I'm not saying every student from a Maryland car is fraudulent, but the sheer number is significant enough that there is probably something more going on besides the expected number of grannies and caregivers who may live in MD. I don't understand all the defensiveness about this -- residency fraud has been reported as a longstanding problem in DCPS. Washington taxpayers and I expect school parents have an interest in ensuring that scarce spots in a good school and the resources that go with them aren't going to those who don't live in the District of Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was 18% IB, but that the pk4 incoming class was 50%. And that test scores compared to same SES status were similar to other area elementary schools like Murch.

Yes, all these things are true. And the person who continually posts about all the MD plates is just wrong. There are a few sets of grandparents from MD that regularly drop off kids, that's about it.

I live on Upton St and walk by Heast all the time with the dog. I'm sure there is the occasional grandparent, but the drivers who I see with MD plartes are all in their 30s and appear to be the kids' parents. Residency fraud is widespread in DCPS and Hearst has it's share, maybe more because it's better than most yet with a predominately OOB population.

Well then, if you walk by with your dog surely you know what it is going on at the school!

You may recall that Sidwell is across the street and also has kids being dropped off and picked up. Unless you are sitting there watching their every move, you don't actually know anything about the cars you see driving by. Maybe you should just mind your own business.

I am actually there "all the time" because my kids go to the school. Hearst is a very close-knit community. In all of the classes that my kids have been in, we have known one child that lived part-time in MD due to shared custody.

Sidwell Friends has different drop off and pick up times than Hearst and seems to have staff outside managing the line. The Hearst times are different and the kids are definitely going to/from Hearst. I'm not saying every student from a Maryland car is fraudulent, but the sheer number is significant enough that there is probably something more going on besides the expected number of grannies and caregivers who may live in MD. I don't understand all the defensiveness about this -- residency fraud has been reported as a longstanding problem in DCPS. Washington taxpayers and I expect school parents have an interest in ensuring that scarce spots in a good school and the resources that go with them aren't going to those who don't live in the District of Columbia.

Forgive my ignorance, but why would anyone in Maryland want to sneak their child into Hearst? I have heard talk that a significant number of Duke Ellington Arts HS students come from MD and VA, sometimes paying tuition, sometimes not, but that is a unique school curriculum. What's the gain with getting a seat at Hearst? Can't imagine that it is better than MCPS and it is really far from PG. The only thing I could imagine is that Hearst is more convenient to the parents work location, but that doesn't seem likely. Common sense says that if there really are MD plates it is a case of divorced parents with one in DC and one in MD - so what's the big deal? Or if there is fraud I would think it would make more sense for a legit DC resident to try to get away with paying MD car insurance....