Mundo Verde - Check their Spanish

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of ignoramuses. First, Castilian Spanish, in Spain, is not spoken with a lisp. Second, the proper form, in the language, is to use both ustedes and vosotros. Vos is not grammatically correct, but is commonly used in Argentina. You gringos are not to be believed.

You are the ignoramus here. Language is fluid and ebbs and flows to fit the need of the speakers. Latin Americans do not use vosotros. If the utility of teaching it is solely to appease Spanish elites, it's pointless. Alas, Latin Americans don't feel the need, nor should they. You might feel Spaniards are superior, but I don't. Argentineans may feel so inclined to pay homage to Spain, but even they cared just a tad and chopped the word down to a third. If this hurts your feelings you can always return to Spain. There's millions more speakers here, but their probably not good enough for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of ignoramuses. First, Castilian Spanish, in Spain, is not spoken with a lisp. Second, the proper form, in the language, is to use both ustedes and vosotros. Vos is not grammatically correct, but is commonly used in Argentina. You gringos are not to be believed.

You are the ignoramus here. Language is fluid and ebbs and flows to fit the need of the speakers. Latin Americans do not use vosotros. If the utility of teaching it is solely to appease Spanish elites, it's pointless. Alas, Latin Americans don't feel the need, nor should they. You might feel Spaniards are superior, but I don't. Argentineans may feel so inclined to pay homage to Spain, but even they cared just a tad and chopped the word down to a third. If this hurts your feelings you can always return to Spain. There's millions more speakers here, but their probably not good enough for you.

Different poster here, but I need to ask...do you actually speak Spanish? From the ignorance displayed in a couple of points there, I am guessing you don't. But then, what are you doing commenting about something you have little idea about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of ignoramuses. First, Castilian Spanish, in Spain, is not spoken with a lisp. Second, the proper form, in the language, is to use both ustedes and vosotros. Vos is not grammatically correct, but is commonly used in Argentina. You gringos are not to be believed.

You are the ignoramus here. Language is fluid and ebbs and flows to fit the need of the speakers. Latin Americans do not use vosotros. If the utility of teaching it is solely to appease Spanish elites, it's pointless. Alas, Latin Americans don't feel the need, nor should they. You might feel Spaniards are superior, but I don't. Argentineans may feel so inclined to pay homage to Spain, but even they cared just a tad and chopped the word down to a third. If this hurts your feelings you can always return to Spain. There's millions more speakers here, but their probably not good enough for you.

Different poster here, but I need to ask...do you actually speak Spanish? From the ignorance displayed in a couple of points there, I am guessing you don't. But then, what are you doing commenting about something you have little idea about?

You're so stupid, I should probably not respond. So, this is for the readers and not for you. I was raised in a bilingual family since birth. I identify as a Latina and grew up understanding what that means. Spanish imperialists who virtually enslaved and eradicated most of my ancestors forced their language upon us. After many generations we grew to take ownership of our language the same way African Americans "own" the English language. AAs are often criticized for how they speak, but the question is why? They aren't speaking to appease self-appointed elitists. They're speaking to live their lives on their own terms. This is what free humans do. My Spanish is just as valid as yours. And while you may consider yourself some type of authority, I beg to differ. You're a random DCUM Joe Blow who wants affirmation on an anonymous board. I suggest you do something truly helpful, like therapy. Till that day comes, we bicultural Latinos will continue celebrating our language and our heritage without useless imperial terms like vosotros. Another thing, it's obvious you questioned my right to discuss my language because you assumed I wasn't Latino. How could I be Latino and speak perfect English? Easy- we're super smart. Being the racist you are, you may not get that. But, that's just your insecurities showing.

[Anonymous]

What did I just walk into, wowers.

Note to self, make sure my dual-language school isn't teaching Vosotros.

[Anonymous]

Back to the discussion at hand- has the situation at MV changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of ignoramuses. First, Castilian Spanish, in Spain, is not spoken with a lisp. Second, the proper form, in the language, is to use both ustedes and vosotros. Vos is not grammatically correct, but is commonly used in Argentina. You gringos are not to be believed.

You are the ignoramus here. Language is fluid and ebbs and flows to fit the need of the speakers. Latin Americans do not use vosotros. If the utility of teaching it is solely to appease Spanish elites, it's pointless. Alas, Latin Americans don't feel the need, nor should they. You might feel Spaniards are superior, but I don't. Argentineans may feel so inclined to pay homage to Spain, but even they cared just a tad and chopped the word down to a third. If this hurts your feelings you can always return to Spain. There's millions more speakers here, but their probably not good enough for you.

Different poster here, but I need to ask...do you actually speak Spanish? From the ignorance displayed in a couple of points there, I am guessing you don't. But then, what are you doing commenting about something you have little idea about?

You're so stupid, I should probably not respond. So, this is for the readers and not for you. I was raised in a bilingual family since birth. I identify as a Latina and grew up understanding what that means. Spanish imperialists who virtually enslaved and eradicated most of my ancestors forced their language upon us. After many generations we grew to take ownership of our language the same way African Americans "own" the English language. AAs are often criticized for how they speak, but the question is why? They aren't speaking to appease self-appointed elitists. They're speaking to live their lives on their own terms. This is what free humans do. My Spanish is just as valid as yours. And while you may consider yourself some type of authority, I beg to differ. You're a random DCUM Joe Blow who wants affirmation on an anonymous board. I suggest you do something truly helpful, like therapy. Till that day comes, we bicultural Latinos will continue celebrating our language and our heritage without useless imperial terms like vosotros. Another thing, it's obvious you questioned my right to discuss my language because you assumed I wasn't Latino. How could I be Latino and speak perfect English? Easy- we're super smart. Being the racist you are, you may not get that. But, that's just your insecurities showing.

Bad day, huh? If it happens often, I'd visit a therapist.

Oh, and if you claim to be bilingual, please learn about the difference between vos and vosotros. You seem to assume it's the same, and it obviously isn't. Stop being a disgrace to Latinos and to bilinguals. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion at hand- has the situation at MV changed?

I haven't seen recent complaints, so it must have improved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of ignoramuses. First, Castilian Spanish, in Spain, is not spoken with a lisp. Second, the proper form, in the language, is to use both ustedes and vosotros. Vos is not grammatically correct, but is commonly used in Argentina. You gringos are not to be believed.

You are the ignoramus here. Language is fluid and ebbs and flows to fit the need of the speakers. Latin Americans do not use vosotros. If the utility of teaching it is solely to appease Spanish elites, it's pointless. Alas, Latin Americans don't feel the need, nor should they. You might feel Spaniards are superior, but I don't. Argentineans may feel so inclined to pay homage to Spain, but even they cared just a tad and chopped the word down to a third. If this hurts your feelings you can always return to Spain. There's millions more speakers here, but their probably not good enough for you.

Different poster here, but I need to ask...do you actually speak Spanish? From the ignorance displayed in a couple of points there, I am guessing you don't. But then, what are you doing commenting about something you have little idea about?

You're so stupid, I should probably not respond. So, this is for the readers and not for you. I was raised in a bilingual family since birth. I identify as a Latina and grew up understanding what that means. Spanish imperialists who virtually enslaved and eradicated most of my ancestors forced their language upon us. After many generations we grew to take ownership of our language the same way African Americans "own" the English language. AAs are often criticized for how they speak, but the question is why? They aren't speaking to appease self-appointed elitists. They're speaking to live their lives on their own terms. This is what free humans do. My Spanish is just as valid as yours. And while you may consider yourself some type of authority, I beg to differ. You're a random DCUM Joe Blow who wants affirmation on an anonymous board. I suggest you do something truly helpful, like therapy. Till that day comes, we bicultural Latinos will continue celebrating our language and our heritage without useless imperial terms like vosotros. Another thing, it's obvious you questioned my right to discuss my language because you assumed I wasn't Latino. How could I be Latino and speak perfect English? Easy- we're super smart. Being the racist you are, you may not get that. But, that's just your insecurities showing.

Bad day, huh? If it happens often, I'd visit a therapist.

Oh, and if you claim to be bilingual, please learn about the difference between vos and vosotros. You seem to assume it's the same, and it obviously isn't. Stop being a disgrace to Latinos and to bilinguals. Thank you.

Nobody cares about the difference between vis and vosotros; they're both useless. Again, fake language police, visit the appropriate venue for your low self-esteem- a shrink. DCUM cannot restore your sanity, I promise you. Note to others, unless you want to be laughed out of the room by native speaker Latinos, please leave vos and vosotros at home. Unless it's some medieval Spain costume party, it's not appropriate. Also, I'm understanding the criticisms of Mundo Verde if they're using these antiquated pronouns. I can assure you, they don't use that except to explain evolution of the language at the higher quality immersion programs (LAMB and Oyster). Thank goodness!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion at hand- has the situation at MV changed?

I haven't seen recent complaints, so it must have improved.

+1. Everything at our recent open house looked good. Very nice teachers and parents too; no one like the "anti-imperialists" crazy poster here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion at hand- has the situation at MV changed?

I haven't seen recent complaints, so it must have improved.

+1. Everything at our recent open house looked good. Very nice teachers and parents too; no one like the "anti-imperialists" crazy poster here

She's not the only poster questioning "things" with MV. I've been following some of the other MV threads and there appears to be this issue along with others.

As a matched family we"re going to check it out ourselfves and see what pans out.

[Anonymous]

Unless you happen to be in downtown Madrid and accept a date for Paella with the royal family, don't use vosotros. Rule of thumb. Same for vos. Okay in Argentina. Weird everywhere else.

[Anonymous]

As a total outsider who happens to be bilingual, I can say it looked like an incredible school. I really find it hard to believe it has many problems aside from the playground issue. I also think that people expect too much from schools. You'll never achieve perfection. But I'm curious if it is as awesome as people say it is. All the issues people have with it seem minor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the discussion at hand- has the situation at MV changed?

I haven't seen recent complaints, so it must have improved.

+1. Everything at our recent open house looked good. Very nice teachers and parents too; no one like the "anti-imperialists" crazy poster here

She's not the only poster questioning "things" with MV. I've been following some of the other MV threads and there appears to be this issue along with others.

As a matched family we"re going to check it out ourselfves and see what pans out.

I am one of the posters who described some of the bad Spanish grammar mistakes made by MV, so I'm all for questioning things...but I agree the anti-vosotros lady sounds quite deranged. Next she'll tell us that it was a direct descendant of Columbus who masterminded the 9/11 attacks in cahoots with the CIA and the Mossad.

It is a good idea to go to the school and check things directly.

[Anonymous]

Yes going to the school will help. And I think it's such a lovely space with great teachers and committed parents.

- not a parent but spent a lot of time at MV open houses fantasizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you happen to be in downtown Madrid and accept a date for Paella with the royal family, don't use vosotros. Rule of thumb. Same for vos. Okay in Argentina. Weird everywhere else.

Nope. You'd use the "ustedes" to accept that royal date. Once you have drank enough sangria with them, and are sharing stories about the kids and other friendly chatter, THEN you can use "vosotros."