Melanie Meren's FB post about the calendar

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As a HS teacher whose planning got cut by more than half this year thanks to IPR hall duty and additional required CTs and department meetings, those random days off are the only reason I’m staying afloat this year. I use every holiday and snow day to plan/grade.

If they disappear, they have to take something else off my plate. I can’t do it all with less time.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, love the non-5 day weeks. They are great. Summer is such a pain to plan, and we (and most of our friends) much prefer a day here and there, rather than additional weeks in the summer.

I agree! We love the 4 day weeks! It really helps with the sleep for middle and high schoolers.

Time to be a parent. The entire school system doesn't operate around the needs of your special child.

And it doesn’t operate around your need for a 5 day week. As long as the kids get in the required hours of instructional time I do not care. I prefer the 4 day weeks and so do a lot of parents and teachers. Your whining isn’t going to change that. Time to be a parent and deal with it.

Good to know you don't care about learning.

And no teacher likes the calendar.

Teacher here. I can assure you that the vast majority of us LOVE the current calendar. Makes it incredibly easy to take mini weekend vacations with our families without taking a ton of, if any, leave.

We hope for snow days, cherish the random holidays, and almost all of us can tell you how few "full weeks" we have until spring break and the end of the year.

Here's to hoping it snows on Monday, so we only have two full weeks before spring break!

Teachers with this attitude are the reason people think the profession is a jobs program rather than for the benefit of students.

I saw a teacher on a local weather Facebook account comment "School closings are my love language". With her occupation featured on her profile. Can you imagine publicly stating that you hope to do your job as little as possible? Some teachers truly lack professionalism. If they wonder why they don't get treated as full fledged professionals, they need to look at some of their colleagues.

Every profession has idiots and jerks. Don’t judge the whole group by them. What truly sucks about the teaching profession is that the best ones get paid the same as the fools posting these things. We would keep the great ones around if we were allowed to pay them what they’re worth by pulling from the slackers.

Teaching has gotten harder in the last 20 years. They are dealing with a ton. It wasn't the best decision to go on tv and say that, but absolutely, the teachers I know appreciate the breaks and it helps them either unwind or catch up on planning/grading/etc.

Honestly, I think it boils down to elementary vs. secondary. Secondary parents and teachers want the breaks. Long summers are unnecessary and there is lots of learning loss there (for those who keep talking about that).

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Anonymous wrote:One of my favorite things in life is watching people purposefully have kids then complaining about the scheduling/planning issues that come with having kids. Almost as if they were forced into parenthood.

Like sorry Karen, I guess no one warned you that having 3 kids while you and Chad both work 9-5s that can barely financially support the 5 of you financially may come with obstacles.

But I digress, much easier for parents to moan and complain than to adapt and overcome.

Imagine if FCPS adopted the (majority of) Colorado school schedule... 7.5 hour days, 4 days a week, 144 days a year.

HOW WOULD ANYONE SURVIVE?!

If it were standard and expected, people and the community would adapt. It's the uncertainty that is burdening people so much. If we all knew going into our children's school years that it would be M-TH or Monday Tuesday, Thursday Friday people would plan for that. Employers would all know and they would likewise plan around it the same way we all currently know that there is no school on Saturdays or Sundays.

There would be workplaces that gave the option to work Saturdays because some people could work that day and their spouse work the Friday or Wednesday that kids were off. There would be private supplemental daycare places, businesses that offer martial arts or academics that would be open those days. Parents might get together and form co-ops to support each other with that one day a week off with babysitting and homework supervision and social time.

Again, the uncertainty and it changing one year to the next is the issue.

There’s nothing uncertain about our current calendar. It’s been set for years, including the days off.

What day is the Muslim holiday that is only known when some random dude sees the Moon?

Not very respectful. It's not "some random dude".

There are two Muslim holidays observed by FCPS. Both follow the lunar calendar and yes, can vary based on when the local relgious leader (Imam) views the moon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was an interesting exchange on her FB thread.

Comment - (name removed) "The 26/27 school year is only 6 months away! If changes are going to be made (despite months and months of debating these calendars during school board meetings), please do them as soon as possible."

Reply from Melanie Meren, Fairfax County School Board, Hunter Mill
"Agreed. Please know I’ve been asking the Superintendent about this for months, since it’s an operational matter. However, without any action forthcoming, I’ve taken it up as Governance Chair (policy work) to bring forth the topic. I’m working in coordination with Members Ricardy Anderson (Mason District) and Mateo Dunne (Mt Vernon), and the Governance Committee will take this up on March 17."

Strange to out Dr. Reid like this and basically call her non-responsive. She and Meren must have a terrible relationship.

Also interesting that this will be discussed on March 17th. Makes me hopeful something could come of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a HS teacher whose planning got cut by more than half this year thanks to IPR hall duty and additional required CTs and department meetings, those random days off are the only reason I’m staying afloat this year. I use every holiday and snow day to plan/grade.

If they disappear, they have to take something else off my plate. I can’t do it all with less time.

Everyone of those snow days and random days off is a tax of hundreds of thousands of dollars on the FCPS parent body. You are not presenting a good value proposition for keeping them.

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Anonymous wrote:Great to hear from high school parents whose kids can 1) stay home alone 2) for free 3) can study on their own 4) have no early release nonsense - how they love this calendar and how they don't care.

I doubt they’re real high school parents. Or if they are, they’re probably ashamed to acknowledge that their household depend depends on the income their hs student can bring in in a part-time job during these days off, not “the taxing AP schedule”

DC UM also has a robust nanny, forum, another group of people that financially benefits from the schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:As a HS teacher whose planning got cut by more than half this year thanks to IPR hall duty and additional required CTs and department meetings, those random days off are the only reason I’m staying afloat this year. I use every holiday and snow day to plan/grade.

If they disappear, they have to take something else off my plate. I can’t do it all with less time.

Everyone of those snow days and random days off is a tax of hundreds of thousands of dollars on the FCPS parent body. You are not presenting a good value proposition for keeping them.

As I said, if you want to take them back, advocate to take something else off my plate. Otherwise, you aren’t going to get graded feedback weekly, updated gradebooks weekly, tutoring with kids after school, videos of lessons posted for absent kids, etc, etc. That’s the first thing that’s going to slip because it’s the only thing I can control.

I need smaller classes, less courses taught, fewer number of preps (I teach 3 different HS math courses across 5 sections + advisory lessons). Otherwise it takes a lot of time to plan and grade and remediate 150 students. That time has to come somewhere.

But please don’t pretend that a day off in October costs families $$$ and a day off in June is free. We go to school 180 days - snow days, whether those school days are in August, February, or June.

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Anonymous wrote:As a HS teacher whose planning got cut by more than half this year thanks to IPR hall duty and additional required CTs and department meetings, those random days off are the only reason I’m staying afloat this year. I use every holiday and snow day to plan/grade.

If they disappear, they have to take something else off my plate. I can’t do it all with less time.

Everyone of those snow days and random days off is a tax of hundreds of thousands of dollars on the FCPS parent body. You are not presenting a good value proposition for keeping them.

As I said, if you want to take them back, advocate to take something else off my plate. Otherwise, you aren’t going to get graded feedback weekly, updated gradebooks weekly, tutoring with kids after school, videos of lessons posted for absent kids, etc, etc. That’s the first thing that’s going to slip because it’s the only thing I can control.

I need smaller classes, less courses taught, fewer number of preps (I teach 3 different HS math courses across 5 sections + advisory lessons). Otherwise it takes a lot of time to plan and grade and remediate 150 students. That time has to come somewhere.

But please don’t pretend that a day off in October costs families $$$ and a day off in June is free. We go to school 180 days - snow days, whether those school days are in August, February, or June.

Thank you for this!

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, love the non-5 day weeks. They are great. Summer is such a pain to plan, and we (and most of our friends) much prefer a day here and there, rather than additional weeks in the summer.

I agree! We love the 4 day weeks! It really helps with the sleep for middle and high schoolers.

Time to be a parent. The entire school system doesn't operate around the needs of your special child.

And it doesn’t operate around your need for a 5 day week. As long as the kids get in the required hours of instructional time I do not care. I prefer the 4 day weeks and so do a lot of parents and teachers. Your whining isn’t going to change that. Time to be a parent and deal with it.

Good to know you don't care about learning.

And no teacher likes the calendar.

Teacher here. I can assure you that the vast majority of us LOVE the current calendar. Makes it incredibly easy to take mini weekend vacations with our families without taking a ton of, if any, leave.

We hope for snow days, cherish the random holidays, and almost all of us can tell you how few "full weeks" we have until spring break and the end of the year.

Here's to hoping it snows on Monday, so we only have two full weeks before spring break!

Teachers with this attitude are the reason people think the profession is a jobs program rather than for the benefit of students.

I saw a teacher on a local weather Facebook account comment "School closings are my love language". With her occupation featured on her profile. Can you imagine publicly stating that you hope to do your job as little as possible? Some teachers truly lack professionalism. If they wonder why they don't get treated as full fledged professionals, they need to look at some of their colleagues.

I think if you are a corporate desk worker that would be a bit lazy but, whatever. Can you imagine if you signed up to teach the next generation, expecting praise for your noble career, and publicly brag about how much you love slacking off? So gross.

Most of the teachers I know are really worried about their kids falling behind or not doing well on standardized tests because of the haphazard schedules. A specialist friend - helping kids who need extra instruction - said she has seen her Monday kids 2x in 6 weeks.

If the salaries are so unbearable, do these kids a favor and take a different job.

Most of the public school teachers I know are unapologetic that they NEED the many days off and that they work harder than anyone. So insufferable. They are lazy low iq people. The good ones go to private schools. Ask me how I know.

Thanks Trump! The President leading this PP by example. He is picking up the non ability to debate and only use “low IQ” and misogynistic views to debate about a CALENDAR. Sure, sure all public school teachers you know in this women dominated profession are “low IQ” and lazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Great to hear from high school parents whose kids can 1) stay home alone 2) for free 3) can study on their own 4) have no early release nonsense - how they love this calendar and how they don't care.

HS parent here - this calendar is awful. We don't love it and more importantly my kids have complained about it.

We need to get in a learning groove and this fractured calendar has been disastrous for that.

So no, it isn't HS parents that love it. We HATE it. We also hate that there are so many school days in June when we know very little learning will be happening after tests.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, love the non-5 day weeks. They are great. Summer is such a pain to plan, and we (and most of our friends) much prefer a day here and there, rather than additional weeks in the summer.

I agree! We love the 4 day weeks! It really helps with the sleep for middle and high schoolers.

Time to be a parent. The entire school system doesn't operate around the needs of your special child.

And it doesn’t operate around your need for a 5 day week. As long as the kids get in the required hours of instructional time I do not care. I prefer the 4 day weeks and so do a lot of parents and teachers. Your whining isn’t going to change that. Time to be a parent and deal with it.

Good to know you don't care about learning.

And no teacher likes the calendar.

Teacher here. I can assure you that the vast majority of us LOVE the current calendar. Makes it incredibly easy to take mini weekend vacations with our families without taking a ton of, if any, leave.

We hope for snow days, cherish the random holidays, and almost all of us can tell you how few "full weeks" we have until spring break and the end of the year.

Here's to hoping it snows on Monday, so we only have two full weeks before spring break!

Teachers with this attitude are the reason people think the profession is a jobs program rather than for the benefit of students.

I saw a teacher on a local weather Facebook account comment "School closings are my love language". With her occupation featured on her profile. Can you imagine publicly stating that you hope to do your job as little as possible? Some teachers truly lack professionalism. If they wonder why they don't get treated as full fledged professionals, they need to look at some of their colleagues.

I think if you are a corporate desk worker that would be a bit lazy but, whatever. Can you imagine if you signed up to teach the next generation, expecting praise for your noble career, and publicly brag about how much you love slacking off? So gross.

Most of the teachers I know are really worried about their kids falling behind or not doing well on standardized tests because of the haphazard schedules. A specialist friend - helping kids who need extra instruction - said she has seen her Monday kids 2x in 6 weeks.

If the salaries are so unbearable, do these kids a favor and take a different job.

Most of the public school teachers I know are unapologetic that they NEED the many days off and that they work harder than anyone. So insufferable. They are lazy low iq people. The good ones go to private schools. Ask me how I know.

Actually the people who couldn't get teaching degrees go to private schools where they get paid less and don't have associations/unions to back them up so they plod along without any support system other than TPTs and outdated textbooks. Ask me how I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Great to hear from high school parents whose kids can 1) stay home alone 2) for free 3) can study on their own 4) have no early release nonsense - how they love this calendar and how they don't care.

HS parent here - this calendar is awful. We don't love it and more importantly my kids have complained about it.

We need to get in a learning groove and this fractured calendar has been disastrous for that.

So no, it isn't HS parents that love it. We HATE it. We also hate that there are so many school days in June when we know very little learning will be happening after tests.

But AGAIN. You are looking at the calendar with a TON of snow days. Why are you all so unable to do the calendar by itself and not see past how much the snow days impacted the last few weeks?
Without snow days, the calendar would have been fine. It is the snow days which have blown off the track. And so all of you having a temper tantrum about it will whine to get change but when there are no snow days, you will pull your kids out for long weekends to go skiing or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, love the non-5 day weeks. They are great. Summer is such a pain to plan, and we (and most of our friends) much prefer a day here and there, rather than additional weeks in the summer.

I agree! We love the 4 day weeks! It really helps with the sleep for middle and high schoolers.

Time to be a parent. The entire school system doesn't operate around the needs of your special child.

And it doesn’t operate around your need for a 5 day week. As long as the kids get in the required hours of instructional time I do not care. I prefer the 4 day weeks and so do a lot of parents and teachers. Your whining isn’t going to change that. Time to be a parent and deal with it.

Good to know you don't care about learning.

And no teacher likes the calendar.

Teacher here. I can assure you that the vast majority of us LOVE the current calendar. Makes it incredibly easy to take mini weekend vacations with our families without taking a ton of, if any, leave.

We hope for snow days, cherish the random holidays, and almost all of us can tell you how few "full weeks" we have until spring break and the end of the year.

Here's to hoping it snows on Monday, so we only have two full weeks before spring break!

Teachers with this attitude are the reason people think the profession is a jobs program rather than for the benefit of students.

I saw a teacher on a local weather Facebook account comment "School closings are my love language". With her occupation featured on her profile. Can you imagine publicly stating that you hope to do your job as little as possible? Some teachers truly lack professionalism. If they wonder why they don't get treated as full fledged professionals, they need to look at some of their colleagues.

I think if you are a corporate desk worker that would be a bit lazy but, whatever. Can you imagine if you signed up to teach the next generation, expecting praise for your noble career, and publicly brag about how much you love slacking off? So gross.

Most of the teachers I know are really worried about their kids falling behind or not doing well on standardized tests because of the haphazard schedules. A specialist friend - helping kids who need extra instruction - said she has seen her Monday kids 2x in 6 weeks.

If the salaries are so unbearable, do these kids a favor and take a different job.

Most of the public school teachers I know are unapologetic that they NEED the many days off and that they work harder than anyone. So insufferable. They are lazy low iq people. The good ones go to private schools. Ask me how I know.

BS. Private schools don’t pay as much and have worse benefits. If you are going to lie, try a little harder.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, love the non-5 day weeks. They are great. Summer is such a pain to plan, and we (and most of our friends) much prefer a day here and there, rather than additional weeks in the summer.

I agree! We love the 4 day weeks! It really helps with the sleep for middle and high schoolers.

Time to be a parent. The entire school system doesn't operate around the needs of your special child.

And it doesn’t operate around your need for a 5 day week. As long as the kids get in the required hours of instructional time I do not care. I prefer the 4 day weeks and so do a lot of parents and teachers. Your whining isn’t going to change that. Time to be a parent and deal with it.

Good to know you don't care about learning.

And no teacher likes the calendar.

Teacher here. I can assure you that the vast majority of us LOVE the current calendar. Makes it incredibly easy to take mini weekend vacations with our families without taking a ton of, if any, leave.

We hope for snow days, cherish the random holidays, and almost all of us can tell you how few "full weeks" we have until spring break and the end of the year.

Here's to hoping it snows on Monday, so we only have two full weeks before spring break!

Teachers with this attitude are the reason people think the profession is a jobs program rather than for the benefit of students.

I saw a teacher on a local weather Facebook account comment "School closings are my love language". With her occupation featured on her profile. Can you imagine publicly stating that you hope to do your job as little as possible? Some teachers truly lack professionalism. If they wonder why they don't get treated as full fledged professionals, they need to look at some of their colleagues.

I think if you are a corporate desk worker that would be a bit lazy but, whatever. Can you imagine if you signed up to teach the next generation, expecting praise for your noble career, and publicly brag about how much you love slacking off? So gross.

Most of the teachers I know are really worried about their kids falling behind or not doing well on standardized tests because of the haphazard schedules. A specialist friend - helping kids who need extra instruction - said she has seen her Monday kids 2x in 6 weeks.

If the salaries are so unbearable, do these kids a favor and take a different job.

Most of the public school teachers I know are unapologetic that they NEED the many days off and that they work harder than anyone. So insufferable. They are lazy low iq people. The good ones go to private schools. Ask me how I know.

BS. Private schools don’t pay as much and have worse benefits. If you are going to lie, try a little harder.

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Anonymous wrote:As a HS teacher whose planning got cut by more than half this year thanks to IPR hall duty and additional required CTs and department meetings, those random days off are the only reason I’m staying afloat this year. I use every holiday and snow day to plan/grade.

If they disappear, they have to take something else off my plate. I can’t do it all with less time.

Everyone of those snow days and random days off is a tax of hundreds of thousands of dollars on the FCPS parent body. You are not presenting a good value proposition for keeping them.

As I said, if you want to take them back, advocate to take something else off my plate. Otherwise, you aren’t going to get graded feedback weekly, updated gradebooks weekly, tutoring with kids after school, videos of lessons posted for absent kids, etc, etc. That’s the first thing that’s going to slip because it’s the only thing I can control.

I need smaller classes, less courses taught, fewer number of preps (I teach 3 different HS math courses across 5 sections + advisory lessons). Otherwise it takes a lot of time to plan and grade and remediate 150 students. That time has to come somewhere.

But please don’t pretend that a day off in October costs families $$$ and a day off in June is free. We go to school 180 days - snow days, whether those school days are in August, February, or June.

No, a day off in June isn’t free, but cost about 2/3 of what a day off in October costs.

If you have problems with your employer, those are between you and your employer. Please feel free to advocate for fewer meetings or whatever makes you feel more satisfied. Or seek employment elsewhere.

Teacher planning days and early release cost Fairfax parents hundreds of thousands of dollars in childcare. They have had enough.