FCPS High School prestige ranking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

Are you the silly OP who started this thread and tried to pass off an IB school as a "Tier One" school?

If so, you fully deserve getting called out for your pretentiousness. There isn't an IB school in FCPS that cracks the top seven, and as a curriculum IB is a less desirable, inferior alternative to AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

Only a tiny fraction of students choose to access the rigor of an IB diploma, which is why many people are upset that it's the offering at so many of our HS. It's not just not for everyone...it's hardly for ANYONE.

Are you the silly OP who started this thread and tried to pass off an IB school as a "Tier One" school?

If so, you fully deserve getting called out for your pretentiousness. There isn't an IB school in FCPS that cracks the top seven, and as a curriculum IB is a less desirable, inferior alternative to AP.

[Anonymous]

Only a tiny fraction of students choose to access the rigor of an IB diploma...which is why so many people are against it being in our high schools instead of AP. It's not just "not for everyone" ... it's hardly for ANYONE. Ridiculous use of public school/taxpayer funds in anything other than a magnet high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

The IB program limits students to 3, maybe 4 HL classes, which cannot be taken until senior year. AP students have no limit on the number of courses they can take that are at that level, and they can take them in whatever grade they are ready to. Therefore, AP is more rigorous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the IB people do try to push the "elite" IB program. We are not in an IB school district, but it appears to me that by the nature of it that the group is more segregated than those in an AP program.

In an AP school, some kids take a lot of AP classes, and some may take only one or two. And, of course, some may take none. Anyone fulfilling the requirements can be an "AP Scholar," but it is not a focus at all.

It’s like the people at low-prestige schools who make a big deal out of a kid occasionally getting into a top university. At a prestigious high school that happens regularly, so it doesn’t get called out.

IB schools in FCPS are not prestigious so they try to compensate by making a BFD out of their IB programs.

1) The IB diploma has the same requirement everywhere. It’s a difficult program and shows a boatload of motivation/hard work. Which is why the diploma numbers are not high. Good for those kids!
2) You can’t look at just where kids end up to gauge results. This is esp. true in an area with lots of “donut hole” families. $$ is going to impact the decision of where kids go to school. Lots of parents make over 200k/wont qualify for aid but can’t shell out full pay for top schools. It’s part of why top VA public colleges are so competitive.
3) I agree with a PP-aside from TJ—there is no “prestige” associated with FCPS schools. None. Prestige is for magnet schools and top privates. Your kid goes to a public school. There is some variety in quality. But no “prestige.” Get over it.

I know you wish to believe this, but you are simply wrong. Some school pyramids are sought after, and others are not. Ask any local realtor and they’ll let you know whether it’s worth emphasizing in a listing that a school is zoned for a particular school.

I think you are the one in denial. Again, supposedly in a Tier 1 school or whatever. Still not prestigious. It’s public freaking school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

NP. You can't be serious. There is not one IB school that is considered "prestigious". And you need work on your apostrophe placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

Are you the silly OP who started this thread and tried to pass off an IB school as a "Tier One" school?

If so, you fully deserve getting called out for your pretentiousness. There isn't an IB school in FCPS that cracks the top seven, and as a curriculum IB is a less desirable, inferior alternative to AP.

+1
I think the PP knows this but refuses to admit it. We are all well aware of this fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only a tiny fraction of students choose to access the rigor of an IB diploma...which is why so many people are against it being in our high schools instead of AP. It's not just "not for everyone" ... it's hardly for ANYONE. Ridiculous use of public school/taxpayer funds in anything other than a magnet high school.

Yes, yes but students can still take IB classes without getting the full diploma. Both AP and IB are good programs. It’s so weird how there is this animosity on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

NP. You can't be serious. There is not one IB school that is considered "prestigious". And you need work on your apostrophe placement.

No boo…there isn’t a single non-TJ school that’s considered “prestigious.” The top tier 1-2 list has more to do with wealth than anything else. I’m kind of low key chuckling at all these adults losing their minds over this list and the whole AP vs IB debate. Forgot aiming for AP vs IB or prestige—-invest in some therapy for your poor kids bc you parents are cray-cray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

NP. You can't be serious. There is not one IB school that is considered "prestigious". And you need work on your apostrophe placement.

No boo…there isn’t a single non-TJ school that’s considered “prestigious.” The top tier 1-2 list has more to do with wealth than anything else. I’m kind of low key chuckling at all these adults losing their minds over this list and the whole AP vs IB debate. Forgot aiming for AP vs IB or prestige—-invest in some therapy for your poor kids bc you parents are cray-cray.

This is wrong. The top non-TJ schools (none of which are IB) are more prestigious with the watering down of TJ admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

NP. You can't be serious. There is not one IB school that is considered "prestigious". And you need work on your apostrophe placement.

No boo…there isn’t a single non-TJ school that’s considered “prestigious.” The top tier 1-2 list has more to do with wealth than anything else. I’m kind of low key chuckling at all these adults losing their minds over this list and the whole AP vs IB debate. Forgot aiming for AP vs IB or prestige—-invest in some therapy for your poor kids bc you parents are cray-cray.

Hmm. Did you write the bolded, above? If so, it seems *you* are calling certain schools "prestigious". All you have to do is line up the SAT scores from all FCPS schools to see which are the highest scoring. And all of them have AP, not IB. Enough said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

The IB program limits students to 3, maybe 4 HL classes, which cannot be taken until senior year. AP students have no limit on the number of courses they can take that are at that level, and they can take them in whatever grade they are ready to. Therefore, AP is more rigorous.

The IB program requires students to take 6 high-level classes, taken over two years. There's English, World Language, Social Sciences, Science, Math, and an Elective. On top of a Theory of Knowledge class, write an essay, and complete 150 hours of service outside of class.

Students at IB schools can take IB courses like one takes AP courses -- focusing on which individual AP courses they want to take. Or one can take all the IB classes and go for the certificate. At my child's IB school, students can even take AP courses beginning their sophomore year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

NP. You can't be serious. There is not one IB school that is considered "prestigious". And you need work on your apostrophe placement.

No boo…there isn’t a single non-TJ school that’s considered “prestigious.” The top tier 1-2 list has more to do with wealth than anything else. I’m kind of low key chuckling at all these adults losing their minds over this list and the whole AP vs IB debate. Forgot aiming for AP vs IB or prestige—-invest in some therapy for your poor kids bc you parents are cray-cray.

Hmm. Did you write the bolded, above? If so, it seems *you* are calling certain schools "prestigious". All you have to do is line up the SAT scores from all FCPS schools to see which are the highest scoring. And all of them have AP, not IB. Enough said.

Nope I was referring to the OP list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true.
IB can be a good program.
IB is not the right program for FCPS.

FCPS is ridiculous to go through a boundary study while they keep IB as the program in some schools.

Compare the value. IB loses here.

I do see some value to this take. But PPs continue to conflate value of IB with the performance of the schools where it’s been placed. Zero correlation.

If your average American suburban parent is more comfortable with AP, ok, no issues. But to sayFCPS should just do away with IB shows defensiveness toward other students’ elite hs record.

The thread is about which high schools is FCPS are prestigious - associated with excellence in their academics and extra-curricular programs.

One hallmark of a prestigious school is a pervasive culture of achievement. IB schools in FCPS don’t have that culture. To the contrary, they tend to single out a small number of kids as deserving special attention, which underscores their top achievers are exceptions to the general mediocrity of those schools.

I can decode the title of a thread. And it quickly morphed into IB bashing.

The hallmark of a prestigious school is its rigor. IB’s tops AP’s. And it’s ok that it isn’t for everyone.

The IB program limits students to 3, maybe 4 HL classes, which cannot be taken until senior year. AP students have no limit on the number of courses they can take that are at that level, and they can take them in whatever grade they are ready to. Therefore, AP is more rigorous.

The IB program requires students to take 6 high-level classes, taken over two years. There's English, World Language, Social Sciences, Science, Math, and an Elective. On top of a Theory of Knowledge class, write an essay, and complete 150 hours of service outside of class.

Students at IB schools can take IB courses like one takes AP courses -- focusing on which individual AP courses they want to take. Or one can take all the IB classes and go for the certificate. At my child's IB school, students can even take AP courses beginning their sophomore year.

No, the IB program requires students to take 3-4 higher level classes and 2-3 standard level classes (6 total). They cannot take more than 4 higher level classes.