West Point or Air Force or Navy academies? Anyone with experiences to share?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

+1 and a free education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

This. I work with guys like this and they catch up immediately. Companies clamor for them because they've been in positions of leadership since their early 20s and you don't get this in the private sector.

[Anonymous]

Anyone sending a kid to the military with Trump and Pete Mr alcohol has zero respect for their child and or for their child's safety.

No this is not the time to do this.

My family is generational military I will be dammed if anyone of my children were to be put in a position to defend the crap leaders we have now. Pop ups to sell Trump merchandise are you insane to put a child in the military under this UnAmerian crap?

[Anonymous]

My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

Oh my good. I am so sorry and so saddened to hear this. Besides the nightmare that your DD went through- they don’t call them doolies anymore? That’s crazy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone sending a kid to the military with Trump and Pete Mr alcohol has zero respect for their child and or for their child's safety.

No this is not the time to do this.

My family is generational military I will be dammed if anyone of my children were to be put in a position to defend the crap leaders we have now. Pop ups to sell Trump merchandise are you insane to put a child in the military under this UnAmerian crap?

My DC can’t wait to apply PP. Not to worry, he’ll take a vow to defend your right to hold sorry-ass opinions like this.

Have a nice life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone sending a kid to the military with Trump and Pete Mr alcohol has zero respect for their child and or for their child's safety.

No this is not the time to do this.

My family is generational military I will be dammed if anyone of my children were to be put in a position to defend the crap leaders we have now. Pop ups to sell Trump merchandise are you insane to put a child in the military under this UnAmerian crap?

The kids enrolling in the fall will not be in the military until after this administration ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

I am surprised that 1/3 of her class is going to graduate school directly after graduating, as I thought this was fairly rare for academy grads. I know USNA only has about 10-15 spots for those going to medical school/dental school. How does this work? How many additional years does this add on to the service requirement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

+1 and a free education

It’s not free. He owes time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

On this note, I went to a parent briefing recently for prospective students at the Naval Academy. I was surprised to learn that every single student, even those majoring in history, English or another liberal arts field subject, gets through calculus 3. I think about how my own DC is struggling in calc 2 at a very good university for a business degree.

These Academy degrees will be worth much more in the long run than your basic BA degree in some silly subject from a civilian college or university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

It’s a small world. I know that Sup personally and he’s an incredibly good person. Fantastic human and leader. I think your post is pure fiction.

BTW, if your daughter started four years ago, she’s had two Superintendents. You would know this if you really have a kid there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

On this note, I went to a parent briefing recently for prospective students at the Naval Academy. I was surprised to learn that every single student, even those majoring in history, English or another liberal arts field subject, gets through calculus 3. I think about how my own DC is struggling in calc 2 at a very good university for a business degree.

These Academy degrees will be worth much more in the long run than your basic BA degree in some silly subject from a civilian college or university.

All naval ROTC students must also complete a year of college calculus by sophomore year and a year of calculus-based physics by junior year (regardless of major)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend went to West Point - he’s extremely bright and driven, wanted to have a sense of mission and challenge himself to the utmost

He liked his time at the USMA. However he has found the last 5 years of his life extremely stultifying, working in a ponderous bureaucracy with people who aren’t particularly bright, driven or mission-focused

He gets out in August and is rolling straight into a top MBA program, and is a bit depressed that he’ll be almost 30 before beginning his real career and regrets what he viewed as a lot of wasted time as an Army officer

But he had a hook that got him into that MBA program and will get job interviews because of his veteran status. I've seen it time and time again - people with lower end stats getting into top programs because of military service. His trajectory will be better than most because of his service and he will quickly catch up.

On this note, I went to a parent briefing recently for prospective students at the Naval Academy. I was surprised to learn that every single student, even those majoring in history, English or another liberal arts field subject, gets through calculus 3. I think about how my own DC is struggling in calc 2 at a very good university for a business degree.

These Academy degrees will be worth much more in the long run than your basic BA degree in some silly subject from a civilian college or university.

All naval ROTC students must also complete a year of college calculus by sophomore year and a year of calculus-based physics by junior year (regardless of major)

PP again. Then I'm even more impressed. I don't know why this was such a surprise to me, given that the military is so STEM based, but I had never connected the dots as to exactly how much math and hard science all of these kids have to take - especially as compared to your average college student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

It’s a small world. I know that Sup personally and he’s an incredibly good person. Fantastic human and leader. I think your post is pure fiction.

BTW, if your daughter started four years ago, she’s had two Superintendents. You would know this if you really have a kid there.

The current Sup is not great, ask any cadet. The previous one was great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter just graduated from USAFA last month. Her firstie year was a joke due to a fully woke Superintendent. He ended a lot of training for the fourth degrees last year, even got rid of the term doolie. Despite that, she had a good experience and is going on to graduate school this fall with about 1/3 of her class. She will be returning at some point to teach and hopes it returns to some semblance of military training by then. She had to share a bathroom the past two years with a man who pretended to be a woman who was constantly pooping in the bathroom when the biological women showered. She is glad to get out of that situation.

I am surprised that 1/3 of her class is going to graduate school directly after graduating, as I thought this was fairly rare for academy grads. I know USNA only has about 10-15 spots for those going to medical school/dental school. How does this work? How many additional years does this add on to the service requirement?

USAFA Graduates applied to schools all over the US and beyond as well as military programs at AFIT and other military masters programs. I think 1/3 might have been a little bit of a high estimate, I think it is actually closer to 15%, oops.

The amount added to the service requirement depends on the program.