DCI vs Latin Cooper

[Anonymous]

Utter nonsense. Only in the DC context would this goofy charge be leveled. It's a no brainer. Language immersion needs good-sized cohorts of native speakers or it's not immersion. Broad-based IB Diploma success demands more middle school challenge than DCI offers. Latin Cooper has promise but lacks the resources to impress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Utter nonsense. Only in the DC context would this goofy charge be leveled. It's a no brainer. Language immersion needs good-sized cohorts of native speakers or it's not immersion. Broad-based IB Diploma success demands more middle school challenge than DCI offers. Latin Cooper has promise but lacks the resources to impress.

DCI has a great middle school program, with a lot of native speakers. My kid is in the Spanish program, from a feeder. In the advanced language classes in particular there are a lot of native speaking kids.

[Anonymous]

Right, DCI for Spanish. There are hardly any native speakers for French and essentially zero for Chinese (although there are some native speaking parents of non-native speaking DCI students). The DCI middle school program just isn't great. Advanced kids aren't pushed in the non-tracked classes, other than for math, a very recent development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This. Where public schools are stellar, the Asian families will come. DCI attracts few, Latin Cooper even fewer. You may not care.

What makes a school stellar? You have not explained that.

I personally don’t think any Latin campus is a good fit for my kids. The tracking provided at dci does a great job with keeping my academically motivated children interested and thriving. A close friend of my daughter’s attends latin and he is thriving. He was struggling with Spanish, couldn’t read or write well, and was scoring poorly in math. Latin has done a great job of meeting him where he was and supporting him. He doesn’t feel left behind because they don’t track. It has been very positive for him.

I don’t think having East Asian people at a school means it’s stellar. Please consider reevaluating your remarks because you sound super racist and uninformed.

You sound delusional. Visit any well-regarded suburban middle school or high school in the DMV and look for E Asian faces. You will see many. These kids are disproportionately represented in upper-level classes, particularly for STEM. The reality is that E Asian immigrate families amalgamate around good public schools in this Metro area. Same with NYC, Boston, LA, San Fran and some other big US cities. Their participation is an acid test of school quality. The inconvenient truth is that if they aren't there isn't a good-sized cohort of Asians in a public school in the DMV, at least 10% of students, the program isn't that hot. Pretending otherwise won't change this. Dream on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right, DCI for Spanish. There are hardly any native speakers for French and essentially zero for Chinese (although there are some native speaking parents of non-native speaking DCI students). The DCI middle school program just isn't great. Advanced kids aren't pushed in the non-tracked classes, other than for math, a very recent development.

Apart from language, I think this is getting better. Each grade gets more challenging. I still think there should be advanced English. It is not fair to see the advanced readers in the same class that complains about having to read a whole book. Not like War and Peace, more like The Hunger Games. I think they're only assigned a couple chapters. The struggling students deserve more help and the advanced deserve a challenge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This. Where public schools are stellar, the Asian families will come. DCI attracts few, Latin Cooper even fewer. You may not care.

What makes a school stellar? You have not explained that.

I personally don’t think any Latin campus is a good fit for my kids. The tracking provided at dci does a great job with keeping my academically motivated children interested and thriving. A close friend of my daughter’s attends latin and he is thriving. He was struggling with Spanish, couldn’t read or write well, and was scoring poorly in math. Latin has done a great job of meeting him where he was and supporting him. He doesn’t feel left behind because they don’t track. It has been very positive for him.

I don’t think having East Asian people at a school means it’s stellar. Please consider reevaluating your remarks because you sound super racist and uninformed.

You sound delusional. Visit any well-regarded suburban middle school or high school in the DMV and look for E Asian faces. You will see many. These kids are disproportionately represented in upper-level classes, particularly for STEM. The reality is that E Asian immigrate families amalgamate around good public schools in this Metro area. Same with NYC, Boston, LA, San Fran and some other big US cities. Their participation is an acid test of school quality. The inconvenient truth is that if they aren't there isn't a good-sized cohort of Asians in a public school in the DMV, at least 10% of students, the program isn't that hot. Pretending otherwise won't change this. Dream on.

Just wondering why it’s okay to post statements like “east Asian faces means quality” and “black and Latino keeps means that the program isn’t strong”

I guess if you’re a raging Chinese racist, this poster makes sense. Otherwise I would love actual discussion on how to make dci a better school and have a real discussion on whether it’s worth a financial hit to move to a less than desirable community for your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right, DCI for Spanish. There are hardly any native speakers for French and essentially zero for Chinese (although there are some native speaking parents of non-native speaking DCI students). The DCI middle school program just isn't great. Advanced kids aren't pushed in the non-tracked classes, other than for math, a very recent development.

Apart from language, I think this is getting better. Each grade gets more challenging. I still think there should be advanced English. It is not fair to see the advanced readers in the same class that complains about having to read a whole book. Not like War and Peace, more like The Hunger Games. I think they're only assigned a couple chapters. The struggling students deserve more help and the advanced deserve a challenge.

My kids are horrible at English and struggle but I agree with you that if there is advanced math there should be advanced English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This. Where public schools are stellar, the Asian families will come. DCI attracts few, Latin Cooper even fewer. You may not care.

What makes a school stellar? You have not explained that.

I personally don’t think any Latin campus is a good fit for my kids. The tracking provided at dci does a great job with keeping my academically motivated children interested and thriving. A close friend of my daughter’s attends latin and he is thriving. He was struggling with Spanish, couldn’t read or write well, and was scoring poorly in math. Latin has done a great job of meeting him where he was and supporting him. He doesn’t feel left behind because they don’t track. It has been very positive for him.

I don’t think having East Asian people at a school means it’s stellar. Please consider reevaluating your remarks because you sound super racist and uninformed.

You sound delusional. Visit any well-regarded suburban middle school or high school in the DMV and look for E Asian faces. You will see many. These kids are disproportionately represented in upper-level classes, particularly for STEM. The reality is that E Asian immigrate families amalgamate around good public schools in this Metro area. Same with NYC, Boston, LA, San Fran and some other big US cities. Their participation is an acid test of school quality. The inconvenient truth is that if they aren't there isn't a good-sized cohort of Asians in a public school in the DMV, at least 10% of students, the program isn't that hot. Pretending otherwise won't change this. Dream on.

Just wondering why it’s okay to post statements like “east Asian faces means quality” and “black and Latino keeps means that the program isn’t strong”

I guess if you’re a raging Chinese racist, this poster makes sense. Otherwise I would love actual discussion on how to make dci a better school and have a real discussion on whether it’s worth a financial hit to move to a less than desirable community for your kids.

I'm wondering why it's okay to pretend that public middle and high schools in the DMV attracting few or no East Asian immigrant families are fantastic when they're not. Common sense tells us this, vs. racing racism. No real discussion is possible with parents who deny reality. You can always supplement to make a school that isn't all that great work for your family. Moving isn't always the best solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This. Where public schools are stellar, the Asian families will come. DCI attracts few, Latin Cooper even fewer. You may not care.

What makes a school stellar? You have not explained that.

I personally don’t think any Latin campus is a good fit for my kids. The tracking provided at dci does a great job with keeping my academically motivated children interested and thriving. A close friend of my daughter’s attends latin and he is thriving. He was struggling with Spanish, couldn’t read or write well, and was scoring poorly in math. Latin has done a great job of meeting him where he was and supporting him. He doesn’t feel left behind because they don’t track. It has been very positive for him.

I don’t think having East Asian people at a school means it’s stellar. Please consider reevaluating your remarks because you sound super racist and uninformed.

You sound delusional. Visit any well-regarded suburban middle school or high school in the DMV and look for E Asian faces. You will see many. These kids are disproportionately represented in upper-level classes, particularly for STEM. The reality is that E Asian immigrate families amalgamate around good public schools in this Metro area. Same with NYC, Boston, LA, San Fran and some other big US cities. Their participation is an acid test of school quality. The inconvenient truth is that if they aren't there isn't a good-sized cohort of Asians in a public school in the DMV, at least 10% of students, the program isn't that hot. Pretending otherwise won't change this. Dream on.

Just wondering why it’s okay to post statements like “east Asian faces means quality” and “black and Latino keeps means that the program isn’t strong”

I guess if you’re a raging Chinese racist, this poster makes sense. Otherwise I would love actual discussion on how to make dci a better school and have a real discussion on whether it’s worth a financial hit to move to a less than desirable community for your kids.

I'm wondering why it's okay to pretend that public middle and high schools in the DMV attracting few or no East Asian immigrant families are fantastic when they're not. Common sense tells us this, vs. racing racism. No real discussion is possible with parents who deny reality. You can always supplement to make a school that isn't all that great work for your family. Moving isn't always the best solution.

It could be that Asians don’t want to take risks with a school- even a good school- where the admin or student body treats them very poorly (or at least they can rationally expect that when something happens, the institution will side against them against whoever is complaining). It’s a fair question to ask if DCI and the Chinese feeder are good schools- and by test scores at least YY is good- why ethnically Chinese (and other East Asian) families don’t hang around, and appear at least in YY’s case to hang around less than they did (spoiler alert: I’m a pretty happy YY parent with some thoughts here who has seen some… troubling things)

[Anonymous]

Come on, YY's not too hot. Our bilingual Chinese immigrant family rejected our spot 5 years ago once we found out that there really aren't any native speaking kids in the program, the English scores were among the worst in the city for while kids (no data for Asians) and the long-serving principal didn't speak Chinese. The other parents seemed thrilled with the whole ridiculous arrangement. We headed to a NW DCPS. We have friends at DCI (in the high school, Spanish track) who like it OK but take it year by year out of concern that core subjects may not provide challenge.

[Anonymous]

I love how this thread has posters openly admitting their racism and justifying it because they “know quality”. NICE!