Rich Men North of Richmond

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It's a racist screed clearly advocating another Civil War. There's really nothing to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

The man has already been interviewed and said he doesn't identify as conservative.

He’s just saying that to get as large of an audience as possible

Oh yeah, this guy seems really preoccupied with avoiding controversy. /s

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Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

The scary part is that the song shows that the wealthy class has once again succeeded in getting the masses to fight amongst themselves:

"And the obese milkin' welfare
Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds"

This song paints the world as the "hard blue collar worker" verses "the overweight person using food stamps." As if that is where the majority of taxes are going. As if these same people are not as downtrodden as the "working man" lamented in the song. Guess who taught them that falsehood? The Republican "rich men North of Richmond," who themselves are not paying taxes, but are taking the tax dollars and making a profit, while using their $power$ to make sure the singer's audience gets bullsh!t pay forever. And yet, they will vote to keep those dudes in power. Why?

And the song clearly has a Vote Republican anti-tax bent, which ensures that these folks will end up voting for "the [Republican] rich men North of Richmond." As if the 'rich men North of Richmond' were actually paying their fair share of taxes: hint: if they were, the middle class wouldn't have to pay so much to keep our defense system running. What the song doesn't do is convey that Democrats, wealthy or not, want to tax the rich, not the poor, but have to talk about taxes to make it happen. Republicans talk about cutting taxes, but mean only for the wealthy aka "the rich men North of Richmond," which increases the burden on the working class; but they leave that out of their slogans and lies, and so the cycle repeats itself.

Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

No love on this website. The elites here think they were born to use others as slave labor. Fair wages? Piss on that. Import some more cheap labor. Health care benefits , ah those deplorables should have gone to Yale. What is wrong with them?

Let’s import 4,000,000 low wage desperate workers to help stop inflation , or keep wages low.

Let’s import millions of HXXXBs for the mythical labor shortage , that has been happening for 33 years?

When will democrats start helping the US middle class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

No love on this website. The elites here think they were born to use others as slave labor. Fair wages? Piss on that. Import some more cheap labor. Health care benefits , ah those deplorables should have gone to Yale. What is wrong with them?

Let’s import 4,000,000 low wage desperate workers to help stop inflation , or keep wages low.

Let’s import millions of HXXXBs for the mythical labor shortage , that has been happening for 33 years?

When will democrats start helping the US middle class?

They won’t because they don’t fit in the right categories. This thread is one long “let them eat cake”. The only one worse is the one with all the handwringing over UPS drivers making a living wage. How dare they.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

Meh, here's a much better angry song about low wages that could be a clarion call to action:

https://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/uncle-tupelo/coalminers-553.html

come, all you coalminers
wherever you may be
and listen to the story
that I relate to thee
my name is nothing extra
but the truth to you I tell
I am a coalminer
and I'm sure I wish you well

I was born in old Kentucky
in a coal camp, born and bred
I know about old beans
bulldog gravy and cornbread
I know how the miners work and slave
in the coalmines every day
for a dollar in the company store
for that is all they pay

mining is the most dangerous work
in our land today
plenty of dirty, slaving work
for very little pay
coalminers, won't you wake up
and open your eyes and see
what this dirty capitalist system
has done to you and me

dear miners, they will slave you
until you can't work no more
and what will you get for your laborbut a dollar in the company store
a tumbledown shack to live in
snow and rain pouring through the topand you have to pay the company rentand your payments will never stop

they take our very lifeblood
they take our children's lives
take fathers away from children
take husbands away from wivescoalminers, won't you organize
wherever you may be
and make this a land of freedom
for workers, like you and me

I am a coalminer
and I'm sure I wish you well
let's sink this capitalist system
to the darkest pits of hell

[Anonymous]

It really takes no talent to be a right-wing sensation. Just reference the right stereotypes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the song and love the singer, Oliver Anthony.

I don't know why you think this is "scary." He is expressing what many middle and lower class people are thinking and feeling.

Here are the lyrics:
I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't shit and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bullshit pay

No love on this website. The elites here think they were born to use others as slave labor. Fair wages? Piss on that. Import some more cheap labor. Health care benefits , ah those deplorables should have gone to Yale. What is wrong with them?

Let’s import 4,000,000 low wage desperate workers to help stop inflation , or keep wages low.

Let’s import millions of HXXXBs for the mythical labor shortage , that has been happening for 33 years?

When will democrats start helping the US middle class?

MAGA Moron: the Republicans play you dimwits like fools.

Republicans:

- oppose raising the minimum wage (f**k those low-class losers, they say!)
- oppose subsidized healthcare (to them, healthcare is a privilege, not a right),
- are dismantling public schools (another right-vs-privilege thing, as they see it),
- undermine unions and organized labor (those damn commies!)
- cut taxes for the rich (it's good for "growth"!)
- the list goes on.

And, best of all, low-brow white dumbf**ks (usually without two nickels to rub together) cheer them on.

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Anonymous wrote:A “hero of the far right” blames his problems on heavyset women (because of course no men are 5’ 3” in the heroic sub-Richmond) on welfare and anyone is supposed to take this seriously? Really OP?

Angry white dude is misogynist, news at 11

It's because those are mostly the women who want to go out with him.

Where did he say anything about women in his song?

How many men are 5’3”?

Enough. About 10%.

Not in America. But sure let’s say it’s 10% You think he’s writing about men?

He is writing about obese people using their food stamps to purchase junk food that makes them more obese. Do you not get that? Do you not understand that he is slamming government programs that actually encourages this by putting few restrictions on the kind of food they can purchase?

He says nothing about change to government programs. He talks about obese people on food stamps.

How many of his ardent fans absolutely hated Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school lunches healthier? Bloomberg’s suggestion to tax sodas?

not sure his “ardent fans” would have been that focused on Bloomberg’s position on soft drinks. That’d more of an inside DC obsession.

New York.

But my broader point is, when there have been efforts to make taxpayer funding focus on healthy food, conservatives mocked it, resisted it, and hated it. Trump even rolled back the draconian provision that…required children be served fruits and vegetables.

So no, I don’t buy that now he’s just so upset about taxpayer dollars buying fudge rounds when he was telling to support taxpayer dollars buying pizza rolls.

When someone comes out with a song about worker and workplace protections, genuine tax relief for families, and sure even tackling making sure the poor have adequate access to healthy food, I hope there’s a thread about it— I can get behind it!

NYC but cheered on by DC policy people. He doesn’t seem to see the world through a center-left policy prism that revolves around government. I know that’s hard to imagine … but maybe just try?

Right— he seems to be mad at government for not mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables. Except
his supporters were also mad about…mandating taxpayer dollars fund fruits and vegetables.

Nope. Fruits and vegetables do not appear anywhere in his lyrics.

He’s worked up about his tax dollars and fudge rolls. Either he doesn’t believe in poor people having food assistance (good conservative position) or he thinks government should only fund nutritious food, which is Michelle Obamas position from 2014 that all the republicans hated. Pick a lane.

That’s your dichotomy, not his.

Just a basic familiarity with the political history beyond the Trump years show this as just the same old inconsistency.

huh?

If you remember or read about the Reagan years, you know there was “welfare queens” people were all worked up about— they did not exist.

Is you remember or read about the Obama years you know there was a concerted effort to target childhood obesity and make taxpayer dollars fund nutritious food for school children— two efforts which were vehemently opposed by republicans.

So some guy showing up and saying oh my god people are obese and tax dollars fund unhealthy food and pretending he’s original or that this isn’t something done deliberately by republicans is…either very misinformed, poorly read, or a hypocrite.

You remember a president named William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton? He signed a welfare reform bill supported by, among other groups, the DLC. I’m still not sure what nutritious school lunches have to do with it. If you read and/or listen to the lyrics, he’s pointing to a country that tolerates the unhoused not having anything to eat, while simultaneously paying for a food product called “fudge rounds” that is available for an allegedly obese individual. But that individual is not a school child.

Do you know that what is in school lunches has the exact same weak nutritional profile as “fudge rounds” and that school lunches are the primary means of providing food assistance to the poor and unhoused children he’s allegedly concerned with?

You’re saying it’s a problem to provide low nutrition food to a 300lb presumed adult who qualifies for food stamps, but we should keep shoveling corn syrup and pizza rolls in children whose only guaranteed food in a day comes from free school lunches? Do you have any idea how nuts that sounds?

I’m, uh, not saying any of that, and neither is the artist. But ok: eating right is important.

[Anonymous]

I am sure this guy would cross a picket line.

[Anonymous]

Shocking to learn that DC elites don’t like the song.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shocking to learn that DC elites don’t like the song.

A populist anthem that blames other poor people for the causing the "jes' folks" to be poor. Meta!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shocking to learn that DC elites don’t like the song.

I'm the PP who posted the Uncle Tupelo Coalminers song above. Do YOU like that one? I'm a DC elite who does! Are you a non-elitist who doesn't like it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shocking to learn that DC elites don’t like the song.

It’s literally a totally fake astroturfing campaign by “elite” Conservative Inc apparatus.

[Anonymous]

How about this song?

There is power in a factory, power in the land
Power in the hand of the worker
But it all amounts to nothing
If together we don't stand
There is power in a Union
Now the lessons of the past
Were all learned with workers' blood
The mistakes of the bosses we must pay for
From the cities and the farmlands
To trenches full of mud
War's always been the bosses' way, sir
The Union forever defending our rights
Down with the blackleg, all workers unite
With our brothers and our sisters
From many far off lands
There is power in a Union
Now I long for the morning that they realize
Brutality and unjust laws cannot defeat us
But who'll defend the workers who cannot organise
When the bosses send their lackeys out to cheat us?
Money speaks for money
The Devil for his own
Who comes to speak for the skin and the bone?
What a comfort to the widow
A light to the child
There is power in a Union
The Union forever defending our rights
Down with the blackleg, all workers unite
With our brothers and our sisters
Together we will stand
There is power in a Union