Love is Blind Season 4!

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Anonymous wrote:So many thoughts! I can't wait for the reunion this seems like the messiest group so far.

Tiffany and Brett - Wonderful, I think that they are still together, regardless of whether they actually got married. I think they might be my favorite couple in the history of the show (I also like Lauren and Cameron but think they are kind of cheesy)

Marshall and Jackeline - I think she clearly has some STUFF going on at home. Reading between a lot of lines (read, I am making a lot of assumptions and I know it so won't be surprised if this is totally off base) I think she came on this show to get Netflix famous and likely a lot of people are counting on her to 'breakout' and be able to support them. I think she is struggling with this expectation and probably understanding intuitively that she doesn't get to go star in 15 netflix reality shows if she ends up married to Marshall. But he has real feelings for him. I think 50/50 on them. I think odds are high she gets back into the real world and sucked into her own drama and withdraws and turns up on Too Hot to Handle next summer. He is not really my cup of tea but whatever, I think the clips of her saying they don't have sex and his asking her about sex before marriage are red flags though and likely mean they would have been doomed anyway.

Kwame and Chelsea - What a pick me man. Gross. Worst guy. Should have pulled out after the Micah break up but led Chelsea on. I think he hooks up with Micah and that breaks up both relationships. Chelsea deserves MUCH better. That said if there is a dark horse of the season to marry a la Colleen and Matt I think it is these two. Chelsea, while very self assured, does not appear to see him clearly enough. I can easily see her saying yes at the alter if he plays along correctly and being devastated watching the season back now.

Everyone else gets an individual thought haha

Paul - He doesn't really deserve an individual thought but can't be lumped in with Micah. He is like, aggressively fine and boring. I do think Amber makes an appearance and if I were betting I would say that if he has dated anyone in the show post weddings it is Amber. I would be SHOCKED if he and Micah got married. I doubt they make it much farther. I think Zach and Irina breaking up is kind of a precedent setter, IE, if no one else in the season has broken up the producers can convince you to stick around but if someone else just broke up and you are miserable you are more likely to be looking for loopholes.

Micah - Young, wants to be famous, did this on a lark. Thinks that the whole process is a joke and so has been pretending the whole time and therefore thinks everyone else is pretending or drama queens so she doesn't think she's being a mean girl. She can't conceive of a world where these relationships are real. Which speaks to her immaturity and shallowness. I think she is just kind of a mean person, but one without depth. I think she operates based on competition and attraction and so she ends up playing with people. She doesn't LIKE Kwame she just thinks he is hot and enjoys that she could win Kwame away from Chelsea just like she won Paul away from Amber. I think she will be single and miserable at the reunion.

Irina - Deeply unhappy and insecure person looking for her Regina George to latch onto (found in Micah). Clearly was not treated well in adolescence and has deep scars about her appearance, causing her to proactively lash out instead of expressing compassion. I think likely what Zack saw in her was a person who also had a pretty traumatic childhood. Behind a wall they probably talked openly about their respective traumas and so he felt he knew her heart. And hey honestly might ACTUALLY know her heart. But a person who has spent a lifetime putting so much value in appearance (feeling like she has more value now that she has gotten past her acne) cannot turn off that core value. I think prior to the revealing, for all her bluster, she was likely INCREDIBLY insecure and anxious about being seen (she knows that a lot of those women were more beautiful than her). I think Zack greeted her in a muted way that was about his own social awkwardness, not her appearance, and the fact that he wasn't visibly thrilled when he saw her (and I think he was actually just like, emotionally overwhelmed not disappointed) put her instantly on the offense. He can't hurt me if I hurt him. He can't call me ugly if I call him ugly first. So anyway I think she's terrible but likely terrible due to true struggles she's gone through and when looks were totally out of it I believe she likely was much more able to let her guard down.

Zack - So my thesis up there on Irina is also kind of a defense of Zack. I don't think he is a bad judge of character really I think he is just a victim of trauma and so saw another victim of trauma in Irina, someone who could understand him. It is why he said he TRUSTED her. Like trauma bonds meant she wouldn't betray him. But hurt people hurt people. I think in Bliss he saw a repeat of what was clearly a different traumatic experience for him with an ex where the ex's family really disliked him because of his past. Bliss grew up with a normal happy family and so can't even fathom this lack of acceptance. But in Irina Zack knew this would not be an issue, they came from the same kind of place. And I think when Bliss talked openly about disliking Irina it triggered a part of Zack who feels like he is also 'low class' and sees part of himself in Irina. And it made him scared that when Bliss met him, she might see the Irina in him. I also think this is why he tested all the women and put them on the defensive by saying weird things when he met them and why they all think he's a weirdo. The guys all like him! The girls primary experience came from failed dates in the PODs and he basically says that he was testing them all by saying he was homeless or a stripper etc. So I don't think he is a BAD guy, I think he DOES have serious mommy issues that will likely impact his romantic relationships until he gets some therapy. But overall I think he is a nice person who is trying his best and is probably a little spectrum-y. And I think he was drawn to Irina and scared of Bliss because of his upbringing. I don't know if they make it, but I hope they give it a good shot and I think if they DO they actually might have a better shot than most of the other couples because I think Bliss and Zack really loved each other and there will be NO ghost of Irina in the background. And I think that if he tries he might be able to explain what he was so afraid of and that might help her understand him more.


This doctorate essay from a few pages back is my post hahaha. So BRIEFER follow up after the initial thoughts

1) Agree with my previous self about everything I said about Brett/Tiffany/Paul/Zach/Irina/Marshall/and largely Chelsea

2) I also agree with what I said about Micah but I feel like it is even MORE apparent now that the producers LOATHE her. And her conversation with Irina in the bar just really I think supports what I was saying above, she did NOT have to go hard at Irina, I mean Paul has no interest. Irina is already beat down here from a show perspective, publicly humiliating her like that and going so hurtful with it when Irina was pretty immediately apologetic just shows how insecure and mean she is. She is the Bartise/Shake/Zaneb of the season. Truly yuck. Drunkenly letting her friends walk all over Paul wasn't even surprising, although seeing that Paul's mom is just like her explains why such a chill guy was drawn to her.

3) Kwame. I mean I still think he's kind of a pick me, I still think he's immature, I still think he's here to be netflix famous, but I also feel like he seems to be actually trying. I thought the call with his mom was tough to watch. I thought Chelsea's dad was wonderful and they clearly bonded. I think he is a nice amiable guy who is clearly just not ready for this step. And Chelsea is just too mature for him, and honestly I kind of agree with him that he is the one being asked to make all the compromises here and even if he WAS mature enough, she is not being open to his feelings and that would put any relationship on the struggle bus.

4) Jacky. Well I agree with what I said but would add that she also is clearly VERY attracted to toxic masculinity. I think she honestly has some mental health issues going on and yeah, I would not date her. She seems like she has a good heart I guess, but she is, sadly, pretty damaged, and it is really evident and I hope she uses this opportunity to get some help.
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Dr. LIB….I agree 100% with every single thing you’ve ever said. This is so rare. Literally ever single character. Bravo.
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. LIB….I agree 100% with every single thing you’ve ever said. This is so rare. Literally ever single character. Bravo.



+1
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Dr. LIB, well done! Also, props to the PP who coined your name.
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. LIB….I agree 100% with every single thing you’ve ever said. This is so rare. Literally ever single character. Bravo.


I love the thoughts on Zach, Kwame and Chelsea. Spot on.
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Anonymous wrote:Dr. LIB, well done! Also, props to the PP who coined your name.


If only I could monetize my reality TV psychoanalysis like a real skill hahahaha
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.


Dr. LIB here haha. I like Marshall, but I think the 'project' line was a concerning tell. I think he IS a good guy and he is supportive and he is pretty low drama, but I also think he has a 'fix broken birds' thing going on that is probably not good for him. Like Jacky is attracted to toxic masculinity, I think he is attracted to toxic femininity. Unlike Jacky though his weirdness isn't hurting others though so I don't think he's a bad person or anything. Just seems like...season 1 barnett, could end up married to a psycho very easily. But hey, pyschos need love too and a nice guy who takes their lunacy with love is probably what they need!
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.


Dr. LIB here haha. I like Marshall, but I think the 'project' line was a concerning tell. I think he IS a good guy and he is supportive and he is pretty low drama, but I also think he has a 'fix broken birds' thing going on that is probably not good for him. Like Jacky is attracted to toxic masculinity, I think he is attracted to toxic femininity. Unlike Jacky though his weirdness isn't hurting others though so I don't think he's a bad person or anything. Just seems like...season 1 barnett, could end up married to a psycho very easily. But hey, pyschos need love too and a nice guy who takes their lunacy with love is probably what they need!


+100 but Now you’re just showing off, Dr. LIB 😂😂

-name coiner
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.


Dr. LIB here haha. I like Marshall, but I think the 'project' line was a concerning tell. I think he IS a good guy and he is supportive and he is pretty low drama, but I also think he has a 'fix broken birds' thing going on that is probably not good for him. Like Jacky is attracted to toxic masculinity, I think he is attracted to toxic femininity. Unlike Jacky though his weirdness isn't hurting others though so I don't think he's a bad person or anything. Just seems like...season 1 barnett, could end up married to a psycho very easily. But hey, pyschos need love too and a nice guy who takes their lunacy with love is probably what they need!


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I agree. I really like Marshall, but I'm surprised no one has called him out forntelling Jackie to put on a jacket at the party. Paired with his savior mentality, he has a lot to work through, though thankfully it appears to be coming from a good place.

Kwame is 100% a pick me and considering he was a professional athlete overseas, I think he's still upset that he didn't win his top choice in Micah. The way he cried over her was intense. And when he called Paul a villain. His pride was shot!

I absolutely adore Bliss. I really want things to work with her and Zach because I think that he'd do whatever he could to please her.

Brett and Tiffany are just dreamy. I'm hoping that his unhealthy spending habits are the only hurdle they'll have to overcome. They just look so good together! And I love the support that they've both provided to other cast members. They are good vibes.
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.


Dr. LIB here haha. I like Marshall, but I think the 'project' line was a concerning tell. I think he IS a good guy and he is supportive and he is pretty low drama, but I also think he has a 'fix broken birds' thing going on that is probably not good for him. Like Jacky is attracted to toxic masculinity, I think he is attracted to toxic femininity. Unlike Jacky though his weirdness isn't hurting others though so I don't think he's a bad person or anything. Just seems like...season 1 barnett, could end up married to a psycho very easily. But hey, pyschos need love too and a nice guy who takes their lunacy with love is probably what they need!


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I agree. I really like Marshall, but I'm surprised no one has called him out forntelling Jackie to put on a jacket at the party. Paired with his savior mentality, he has a lot to work through, though thankfully it appears to be coming from a good place.

Kwame is 100% a pick me and considering he was a professional athlete overseas, I think he's still upset that he didn't win his top choice in Micah. The way he cried over her was intense. And when he called Paul a villain. His pride was shot!

I absolutely adore Bliss. I really want things to work with her and Zach because I think that he'd do whatever he could to please her.

Brett and Tiffany are just dreamy. I'm hoping that his unhealthy spending habits are the only hurdle they'll have to overcome. They just look so good together! And I love the support that they've both provided to other cast members. They are good vibes.


OK, good points here on Marshall.

I'm a mostly straight woman and I'm maybe crushing on Tiffany a bit. She has such charming eyes and smile.
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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Jackelina recently spotted at a baseball game with another man? Haven't caught up, yet. But would be glad if Marshall ended things with her.


Yes that was on my feed today too! the comments made it seem like it was Josh but I didn't have time to read.


Ugh why?! I get that things weren't great with Marshall but Josh is not as good looking and has an annoying voice. There are other men out there!


She is clearly pretty self destructive and is attracted to toxic masculinity


Maybe that's it. I think Marshall is a CATCH.


He is! I'm so glad they're not together. He deserves a lot better.


Another one in favor of Marshall. He just seems like a really supportive guy who's pretty easy going, low drama.


Dr. LIB here haha. I like Marshall, but I think the 'project' line was a concerning tell. I think he IS a good guy and he is supportive and he is pretty low drama, but I also think he has a 'fix broken birds' thing going on that is probably not good for him. Like Jacky is attracted to toxic masculinity, I think he is attracted to toxic femininity. Unlike Jacky though his weirdness isn't hurting others though so I don't think he's a bad person or anything. Just seems like...season 1 barnett, could end up married to a psycho very easily. But hey, pyschos need love too and a nice guy who takes their lunacy with love is probably what they need!


He shouldn't have said it no, but Jackie IS a project. Hell, she's a project and a half. If he were with a normal woman he'd be better.
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Re: Kwame not wanting to move to Seattle. That HAD to have been discussed in the pods, right? Who proposes/accepts a proposal if you’re not on the same page about where to live? Did he maybe give her the impression he was all in to move and now is changing his mind?

And for that matter, why go on the show based in another city if it wasn’t to be Netflix famous? He had to have known going in there was a high likelihood that the women he was going to date already had lives in Seattle, and if he proposed, location would be a major issue. SK vibes!
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I'm feeling all jazzed up for new episodes tomorrow! Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts here! Best DCUM thread!
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