When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?

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Anonymous wrote:Where can I find a coherent explanation about "replacement theory"?

In Tucker Carlson’s words:

He’s not a FoxNews viewer and yet holds similar views to this very fine chap.

He said he hates Fox News. So perhaps in your imagination?

This is a lie.

Is there a link to the actual manifesto?

I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.

Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed

I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.

How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.

We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.

What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).

We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.

I don't know where this Ben Shapiro stuff is coming from. Shapiro is not mentioned at all in the manifesto. He did not say he was a socialist. That is a misrepresentations of what he wrote. Here is how he describes his views:

"But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you."

He clearly aligns himself with Nazis and fascists. All of the people who he describes himself as admiring are right-wingers who hate the left.

Also, keep in mind that this guy is not a brilliant political thinker. He is an idiot who is obsessed with right-wing mass killers and who admits to being influenced primarily by 4Chan memes. I don't think many liberals are being groomed on 4Chan.

So he is into trees and white supremacy? Didn’t think of that Venn diagram.

He wants socialism, but only for white people. That idea overlaps with A LOT of working class, high school-only MAGA Trump supporters who were not necessarily traditional conservatives prior to 2016.

Classic in group/out group signaling.

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Traditionally, conservatives wanted to protect the environment. You know, conserve resources.

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Anonymous wrote:Traditionally, conservatives wanted to protect the environment. You know, conserve resources.

Well Richard Nixon did create the EPA. But I guess Republican elites today would consider him a "looney leftist."

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.

It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.

It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.

I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.

Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.

It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.

It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.

I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.

Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.

Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.

It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.

It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.

I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.

Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.

If they are smart enough to make it to the U.S., they are smart enough to figure out schooling, taxes, and going to the doctor. They have social networks here who acclimate them to the U.S. They are not feeble-minded simpletons.

Remember, even if low skilled, immigrants are already a self-selecting bunch. They have to be able-bodied, resourceful, and skilled at navigating social network and bureaucracies to make it into the U.S. (even if illegally).

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We also have declining enrollment so anyone that wants to get in here and help pay for this school district is helping not hurting.

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Where can I find a coherent explanation about "replacement theory"?

In Tucker Carlson’s words:

He’s not a FoxNews viewer and yet holds similar views to this very fine chap.

He said he hates Fox News. So perhaps in your imagination?

This is a lie.

Is there a link to the actual manifesto?

I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.

Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed

I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.

How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.

We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.

What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).

We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.

I don't know where this Ben Shapiro stuff is coming from. Shapiro is not mentioned at all in the manifesto. He did not say he was a socialist. That is a misrepresentations of what he wrote. Here is how he describes his views:

"But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you."

He clearly aligns himself with Nazis and fascists. All of the people who he describes himself as admiring are right-wingers who hate the left.

Also, keep in mind that this guy is not a brilliant political thinker. He is an idiot who is obsessed with right-wing mass killers and who admits to being influenced primarily by 4Chan memes. I don't think many liberals are being groomed on 4Chan.

So he is into trees and white supremacy? Didn’t think of that Venn diagram.

He wants socialism, but only for white people. That idea overlaps with A LOT of working class, high school-only MAGA Trump supporters who were not necessarily traditional conservatives prior to 2016.

Classic in group/out group signaling.

He said he’s a national socialist. He thinks he’s a Nazi, not a socialist. He’s a dumb racist white kid on 4chan who murdered Black people.

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He lived in a town that is 89% white, dropped out of community college, bought an AR-15 and drove 200 miles to Buffalo and killed Black people who were grocery shopping. He has no grievance against any of them. He had no ideology to justify anything he did. He’s just a loser punk who latched on to racism to try to justify his pathetic life.

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Anonymous wrote:He lived in a town that is 89% white, dropped out of community college, bought an AR-15 and drove 200 miles to Buffalo and killed Black people who were grocery shopping. He has no grievance against any of them. He had no ideology to justify anything he did. He’s just a loser punk who latched on to racism to try to justify his pathetic life.

I honestly think the victims, their families, and people of Buffalo should go to his town for a march/protest. Peaceful, of course.

But the brutality of this needs to "come home" to his lily white town. They should be solemnly marching down the street where his parents live. Let those images flash across Fox News.

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Why should this killer get any attention? He wants attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Either way, psycho shooting wasn’t immigrants. Is AA on the rise immigration-wise and fertility-rate wise?

From his manifesto:

Why did you target those people?

They are an obvious, visible, and large group of replacers. From a culture with higher fertility rates and strong, robust traditions that seek to occupy my peoples lands and ethnically replace my own people. It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries.

some scary sh1t right there. No minority is safe from these extreme right wingers.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Either way, psycho shooting wasn’t immigrants. Is AA on the rise immigration-wise and fertility-rate wise?

From his manifesto:

Why did you target those people?

They are an obvious, visible, and large group of replacers. From a culture with higher fertility rates and strong, robust traditions that seek to occupy my peoples lands and ethnically replace my own people. It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries.

some scary sh1t right there. No minority is safe from these extreme right wingers.

They are truly terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:He lived in a town that is 89% white, dropped out of community college, bought an AR-15 and drove 200 miles to Buffalo and killed Black people who were grocery shopping. He has no grievance against any of them. He had no ideology to justify anything he did. He’s just a loser punk who latched on to racism to try to justify his pathetic life.

You just described all of the MAGAs.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.

It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.

It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.

I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.

Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.

Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.

Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.