Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours


Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?


Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)


Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


Let's include the whole quote you just pulled that from so we aren't taking these words out of context. Don't be lazy, pp.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. Ok i see what you mean. As a VERY hardworking in-home childcare provider and single mother/sole supporter of five children i am really offended by all of this. Very toxic and just plain mean.


Agree that it's all very toxic. But it's 11am on a Tuesday - why are you on DCUM?!


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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. Ok i see what you mean. As a VERY hardworking in-home childcare provider and single mother/sole supporter of five children i am really offended by all of this. Very toxic and just plain mean.


Agree that it's all very toxic. But it's 11am on a Tuesday - why are you on DCUM?!


Same reason as everyone else probably?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours


Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?


Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)


Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


Let's include the whole quote you just pulled that from so we aren't taking these words out of context. Don't be lazy, pp.


Sorry, the rest talked about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well. You know, hardworking women providing for their families. Really reflects well on SAHMs, that poster.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. Ok i see what you mean. As a VERY hardworking in-home childcare provider and single mother/sole supporter of five children i am really offended by all of this. Very toxic and just plain mean.


Agree that it's all very toxic. But it's 11am on a Tuesday - why are you on DCUM?!


Same reason as everyone else probably?!


Yes, but at my office I'm not responsible for other people's children.

(Thank god it's Wednesday and not Tuesday!)
Anonymous
I hate dog people. Get over it, dogs are not that interesting!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours


Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?


Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)


Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


Let's include the whole quote you just pulled that from so we aren't taking these words out of context. Don't be lazy, pp.


Sorry, the rest talked about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well. You know, hardworking women providing for their families. Really reflects well on SAHMs, that poster.


Since you are too lazy, I will show the quote you are summarizing:

I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours

Pp, show me where, in this ENTIRE quote, it talks about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours


Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?


Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)


Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


Let's include the whole quote you just pulled that from so we aren't taking these words out of context. Don't be lazy, pp.


Sorry, the rest talked about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well. You know, hardworking women providing for their families. Really reflects well on SAHMs, that poster.


Since you are too lazy, I will show the quote you are summarizing:

I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours

Pp, show me where, in this ENTIRE quote, it talks about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well?


You're right. That was a different poster agreeing with the first.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked by the SAHM hating posts. "Lazy", "living off another person's dime," "insufferable"?
My spouse and I will make decisions based on our families' needs and you will make yours. We will all work hard and do the best we can. Some of us will teach our children to treat others with kindness and respect. The haters will teach hate.
I hope my kids don't cross paths with yours


Do you not see the language directed towards WOHMs, not to mention at childcare providers?


Really??????? No, I don't see it. (Not pp)


Just from this page:
the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


Let's include the whole quote you just pulled that from so we aren't taking these words out of context. Don't be lazy, pp.


Sorry, the rest talked about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well. You know, hardworking women providing for their families. Really reflects well on SAHMs, that poster.


Since you are too lazy, I will show the quote you are summarizing:

I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours

Pp, show me where, in this ENTIRE quote, it talks about how bad it is to leave your kids with a person who doesn't speak English well?


You're right. That was a different poster agreeing with the first.


I just saw the part about courage. I really just can't.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


I always wondered about that.. The SAHM haters on DCUM.. Do they also hate the people who are taking care of their kids? They are "above" staying home with their children, so they find childcare for them, but do they respect the people that are doing this job? And if they do respect them, why do they deserve your respect above mothers who stay home instead of paying somebody else to take care of them while they go to work?


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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.


Are you kidding? The majority of women who are anti-SAHM think it is important that a woman be an equal
partner and provide financially for her family. You know, like the childcare providers who do it as a career. I really find it unbelievable you don't understand that, but I guess your education is wasted that's not surprising.


I suppose you've never considered that a woman who chooses to stay home with her kids IS contributing to her family's well-being. Perhaps not financially, but there are so many other important ways to provide for one's family that aren't necessarily related to finances. Why would you think that the husbands of SAHMs (or the wives of SAHDs) don't consider their spouses to be equal partners? I know my own husband considers us a team in every way. He is very supportive of my choices, whether I stay at home or return to work.

I find it incredibly sad and pathetic that YOU seem not to understand how an equal marriage works. Your presumption that it must be all about how much money one brings in is very telling. I'm sorry you have such a skewed vision of family life. And as for my "wasted" education, thanks for the concern but I don't consider it wasted in the least. I guess you assume that people who take care of children don't need to be educated; which speaks volumes about your childcare choices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


I always wondered about that.. The SAHM haters on DCUM.. Do they also hate the people who are taking care of their kids? They are "above" staying home with their children, so they find childcare for them, but do they respect the people that are doing this job? And if they do respect them, why do they deserve your respect above mothers who stay home instead of paying somebody else to take care of them while they go to work?


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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.


Wow. I'd much rather have a loving childcare provider, whether English is her first language or not, take care of my kids than some judgmental, living-off-another's dime, racist bitch like you. You're so nasty and I bet you can't even see it. Revolting.


Ok. Whatever you say. Because you sound like such a rational and kind person yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


I always wondered about that.. The SAHM haters on DCUM.. Do they also hate the people who are taking care of their kids? They are "above" staying home with their children, so they find childcare for them, but do they respect the people that are doing this job? And if they do respect them, why do they deserve your respect above mothers who stay home instead of paying somebody else to take care of them while they go to work?


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PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.


Are you kidding? The majority of women who are anti-SAHM think it is important that a woman be an equal
partner and provide financially for her family. You know, like the childcare providers who do it as a career. I really find it unbelievable you don't understand that, but I guess your education is wasted that's not surprising.


I suppose you've never considered that a woman who chooses to stay home with her kids IS contributing to her family's well-being. Perhaps not financially, but there are so many other important ways to provide for one's family that aren't necessarily related to finances. Why would you think that the husbands of SAHMs (or the wives of SAHDs) don't consider their spouses to be equal partners? I know my own husband considers us a team in every way. He is very supportive of my choices, whether I stay at home or return to work.

I find it incredibly sad and pathetic that YOU seem not to understand how an equal marriage works. Your presumption that it must be all about how much money one brings in is very telling. I'm sorry you have such a skewed vision of family life. And as for my "wasted" education, thanks for the concern but I don't consider it wasted in the least. I guess you assume that people who take care of children don't need to be educated; which speaks volumes about your childcare choices.


Well said, last PP. People who slam SAHMs have forgotten what life is all about -- raising your children and enjoying your life. They seem to think life is all about $.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


A lot of SAHMs have childcare help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


I would say the opposite. It takes a lot of strength and courage to rely completely on a single income and to deal with babies and toddlers for months on end. This is the "lazy" choice, not the mom who palms her dc off to virtual strangers for most of their waking hours


I always wondered about that.. The SAHM haters on DCUM.. Do they also hate the people who are taking care of their kids? They are "above" staying home with their children, so they find childcare for them, but do they respect the people that are doing this job? And if they do respect them, why do they deserve your respect above mothers who stay home instead of paying somebody else to take care of them while they go to work?


+1000
PP, I have always wondered this too. The people who have such derision for SAHMs must then feel the same deep lack of respect for their own childcare providers, right? I hear people raving about this nanny, or that daycare, but then mocking the mother who stays home to care for her own kids. A lot of men do this too - look down their noses at SAHMs but brag that they have an au pair or full-time nanny (who barely speaks English). So incredibly hypocritical, but I guess the irony is lost on them.


Are you kidding? The majority of women who are anti-SAHM think it is important that a woman be an equal
partner and provide financially for her family. You know, like the childcare providers who do it as a career. I really find it unbelievable you don't understand that, but I guess your education is wasted that's not surprising.


Glad you know what's best for everyone's families.
Signed,
Working parent

Um, Where did I say that? I believe I was expressing respect for my childcare providers, who work to support their families as i work to support mine.



So you don't consider a parent who stays home with their kids to be "working to support their families"? Please explain to us why paying someone else to take care of your kids somehow makes you a better parent? We'll wait.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.


Had a law career and was SAHM. SAHM is much much harder (and I had a full time domestic help who cleaned, cooked and did all laundry and some cooking). If you find it is comical, you've never been a mom.


You are beyond lazy.


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