Indictment Monday?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that Trump is not admitting to anything with Stormy and why he was so awful in court today is because there was a cheating clause in the pre-nup of his current wife?

He’s angry and embarrassed and thinks he’s special somehow. Apparently he was swearing and behaving in a threatening manner during her testimony.

Stay tuned for a giant rage tweet. Such a toddler.

Special? I'm still trying to figure out what law was broken? Everyone is (outside of your bubble).

Let’s keep it simple. He paid off a porn star and listed it as a legal expense through his company. This is business fraud. There are 34 counts, you can read them, they are clear.

Yes, let's keep it simple. Stormy denied the "affair" IN WRITING.

Because he paid her too. It’s as simple as that.

No, he didn't.

She had an NDA and was honoring it. Pretty simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that Trump is not admitting to anything with Stormy and why he was so awful in court today is because there was a cheating clause in the pre-nup of his current wife?

He’s angry and embarrassed and thinks he’s special somehow. Apparently he was swearing and behaving in a threatening manner during her testimony.

Stay tuned for a giant rage tweet. Such a toddler.

Special? I'm still trying to figure out what law was broken? Everyone is (outside of your bubble).

Let’s keep it simple. He paid off a porn star and listed it as a legal expense through his company. This is business fraud. There are 34 counts, you can read them, they are clear.

Yes, let's keep it simple. Stormy denied the "affair" IN WRITING.

Again, this does not matter at all. If he paid her, for whatever reason (keep her quiet, embarrassment, public opinion etc.) and then listed it as a legal expense that is fraud. It was simply not a legal expense, that is fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

Well, it'll turn out badly for you, but you and others are well deserving, after using our justice system for election interference and nothing more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

The sex or lackthereof is immaterial to this case. The case is about the form of the payments and disclosures.

The salacious stuff is important only because had this information come out in late October 2016 when Cohen and Trump were scrambling, it would have absolutely killed his chances of winning. So it shows the motivation of what Trump wanted to cover up and why the $130k was approved so quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that Trump is not admitting to anything with Stormy and why he was so awful in court today is because there was a cheating clause in the pre-nup of his current wife?

He’s angry and embarrassed and thinks he’s special somehow. Apparently he was swearing and behaving in a threatening manner during her testimony.

Stay tuned for a giant rage tweet. Such a toddler.

Special? I'm still trying to figure out what law was broken? Everyone is (outside of your bubble).

Let’s keep it simple. He paid off a porn star and listed it as a legal expense through his company. This is business fraud. There are 34 counts, you can read them, they are clear.

Yes, let's keep it simple. Stormy denied the "affair" IN WRITING.

Again, this does not matter at all. If he paid her, for whatever reason (keep her quiet, embarrassment, public opinion etc.) and then listed it as a legal expense that is fraud. It was simply not a legal expense, that is fraud.

Nahhh, dismissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

Well, it'll turn out badly for you, but you and others are well deserving, after using our justice system for election interference and nothing more.

DP. Michael Cohen has already gone to prison for this. How do you fit that into your "election interference"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

The sex or lackthereof is immaterial to this case. The case is about the form of the payments and disclosures.

The salacious stuff is important only because had this information come out in late October 2016 when Cohen and Trump were scrambling, it would have absolutely killed his chances of winning. So it shows the motivation of what Trump wanted to cover up and why the $130k was approved so quickly.

Or not. Ya got nothing. Pretty simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

Well, it'll turn out badly for you, but you and others are well deserving, after using our justice system for election interference and nothing more.

DP. Michael Cohen has already gone to prison for this. How do you fit that into your "election interference"?

It's all election interference by the State of NY. Pretty simple.

[Anonymous]

Hey, I like this pretty simple phrase. I'm just gonna tag it on to everything like someone else here.

Pretty simple!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

Well, it'll turn out badly for you, but you and others are well deserving, after using our justice system for election interference and nothing more.

DP. Michael Cohen has already gone to prison for this. How do you fit that into your "election interference"?

It's all election interference by the State of NY. Pretty simple.

What election was Michael Cohen in? You sound a bit simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The conservative news bubble is really doing a great job confusing their views.

The NY case is strictly a business fraud case, nothing more, 34 counts of it. It doesn’t matter if he had an affair, the election has no impact here, doesn’t even matter if he actually slept with the porn star. The only thing that matters is that he committed fraud and the prosecutor is trying to prove intent (that it wasn’t just a mistake).

You can’t payoff a pornstar and list it as a legal expense. Neither would a hooker or your cocaine (regardless of how energized it makes you to work) be a business expense.

Now what?

Now we see what Spanky got in return for the $130k he paid her.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity. This is going to turn out badly for you. Trust me.

If you’re implying that if Trump wins that means it turns out badly for me and the rest of the country, I totally agree.

Well, it'll turn out badly for you, but you and others are well deserving, after using our justice system for election interference and nothing more.

The only party engaging in election interference is the GOP. Giving Trump the reins again would be a horrible mistake for our country. Fact.

You can choke on your impotent rage fantasy all you like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think that Trump is not admitting to anything with Stormy and why he was so awful in court today is because there was a cheating clause in the pre-nup of his current wife?

He’s angry and embarrassed and thinks he’s special somehow. Apparently he was swearing and behaving in a threatening manner during her testimony.

Stay tuned for a giant rage tweet. Such a toddler.

Special? I'm still trying to figure out what law was broken? Everyone is (outside of your bubble).

Let’s keep it simple. He paid off a porn star and listed it as a legal expense through his company. This is business fraud. There are 34 counts, you can read them, they are clear.

Yes, let's keep it simple. Stormy denied the "affair" IN WRITING.

Again, this does not matter at all. If he paid her, for whatever reason (keep her quiet, embarrassment, public opinion etc.) and then listed it as a legal expense that is fraud. It was simply not a legal expense, that is fraud.

Paying a lawyer, NDA, is a legal expense. In addition, the NY law for this fraud is a misdemeanor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As the defense moves for a mistrial, recall, Stormy already told all of this on national television.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-daniels-describes-her-alleged-affair-with-donald-trump-60-minutes-interview/

The idea that this is new information is simply a lie by the defense.

Trump denies he had an affair/sex/whatever with Stormy. This s not even important to the case but this shows Trump is lying destroying his credibility with the jurors.

Does not matter SCOTUS will have the last say and declare him innocent. They will some how claim jurisdiction over the case and over turn it. It’s not like anyone could do anything. They do not even have to have a relevant reason to take the case. They can just take it. No one can over rule them.

SCOTUS doesn't have review of a NY State proceeding.

State prosecuting a federal statute. Surely that is something the Supreme Court can review. There are many more 1/2 baked arguments(like the president has immunity, etc) that could kick this to the Supreme Court. All it takes is the willingness of the court to jump in. They have certainly demonstrated that will.

The state is prosecuting NY State law. If this were a federal proceeding, then it would by SDNY, but this is the AG office.

What is the extra crime being prosecuted? There is nothing mentioned in the indictment. Without the extra crime, the case is a misdemeanor. They are trying to prosecute federal law, as explained previously in this thread.
This case should be tossed because the indictment does not specify a felony crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the defense moves for a mistrial, recall, Stormy already told all of this on national television.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-daniels-describes-her-alleged-affair-with-donald-trump-60-minutes-interview/

The idea that this is new information is simply a lie by the defense.

Trump denies he had an affair/sex/whatever with Stormy. This s not even important to the case but this shows Trump is lying destroying his credibility with the jurors.

Does not matter SCOTUS will have the last say and declare him innocent. They will some how claim jurisdiction over the case and over turn it. It’s not like anyone could do anything. They do not even have to have a relevant reason to take the case. They can just take it. No one can over rule them.

SCOTUS doesn't have review of a NY State proceeding.

State prosecuting a federal statute. Surely that is something the Supreme Court can review. There are many more 1/2 baked arguments(like the president has immunity, etc) that could kick this to the Supreme Court. All it takes is the willingness of the court to jump in. They have certainly demonstrated that will.

The state is prosecuting NY State law. If this were a federal proceeding, then it would by SDNY, but this is the AG office.

What is the extra crime being prosecuted? There is nothing mentioned in the indictment. Without the extra crime, the case is a misdemeanor. They are trying to prosecute federal law, as explained previously in this thread.
This case should be tossed because the indictment does not specify a felony crime.

This has already been argued in briefing, and answered. Go read it.