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I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

They can feel good that they don’t play for Pride, Stars, MCE or MDU DC. Seriously, Capital Blue and MnD DC will be a competitive game for the next few years. It’s good to have two competitive teams in the DC area that will likely be ranked in the top 20.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

They can feel good that they don’t play for Pride, Stars, MCE or MDU DC. Seriously, Capital Blue and MnD DC will be a competitive game for the next few years. It’s good to have two competitive teams in the DC area that will likely be ranked in the top 20.

I hope that’s correct. Competition in the area would be a good thing and it’s not worth debating now who will be better. Good luck to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

You have no idea what the talent level makeup of the team is. They just started this a year ago. Coppermine was quite a while ago and they are only now with a lineup of strong teams. And they're still making mistakes.

How do you think whatever your favorite club is will fare if there aren't moderately decent options around? The ecosystem would die.

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For the love, three teams reorganized into three teams, and, in an area not necessarily considered the hot bed of lacrosse. Two teams will be decent and one will be less so. Leave it for the field.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

They can feel good that they don’t play for Pride, Stars, MCE or MDU DC. Seriously, Capital Blue and MnD DC will be a competitive game for the next few years. It’s good to have two competitive teams in the DC area that will likely be ranked in the top 20.

Without the top talent that left, M&D DC is just a shell of what it was. They’re now clearly behind Pride, Stars, MCE, and MDU DC.

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Anonymous wrote:tell me how any club who's director of recruiting is a senior in college is a threat?

No dog in this fight but this is hilarious.

The parents on this board have some wildly inaccurate perception of the importance of club recruiting directors. They don’t have some magical superpower to get a girl recruited.

I’ve had D1 college coaches tell me they are not impressed with some the club staff held in high esteem on this board.

It is pretty funny, and the group here and probably other places (the sidelines?) is pretty "committed". 24/7/365. They do speak about having to keep them within arm's length if they do have players/a team of players that they like. Begrudgingly keep the lines of communication open with all the pings they get.

Ironically, it's the director of team(s) down the list that alert them to a high end player or 2 that might be underscouted that's the most valuable. That's where relationships or trust can help.

Fortunately or unfortunately, there are naive parents that they cater to whose FOMO is easy prey.

I can only speak from experience in saying that Capital's RC helped my daughter understand which coaches were highly interested in her (versus those who just wanted to keep her close in case their tier one lists didn't pan out) during her recruiting summer. Instead of wasting time and money attending camps at schools where she was a second-tier choice, we focused on schools where coaches had her as their top choice. It actually was really helpful and my daughter wound up committing to a top 25 team.

To your point, the RC didn’t have influence on a coach. They were important in planning the approach to recruiting. I believe the previous poster was getting at parents who believe the RC has some ability to magically get players recruited.

A RC can't get a bad player magically recruited to a top school - you're totally right about that. A good recruiting director wouldn't put his / her reputation on the line to even try.

But a good recruiting director can *help* a strong player get noticed if they have strong relationships built on trust and history.

On top ten club teams alone, there are over 250 players vying for just 160 spots (average of 8 per recruiting class which is being generous) on top 20 D1 teams. A good recruiting director with relationships can get those coaches to the sidelines and talk up the great players. The rest is entirely up to the player to perform when the lights are on.

Past Capital teams ranked anywhere from 12-15 have sent girls to crazy schools. Were they great players? Yes. Were there hundreds of other great players all aiming for the same schools? Yes.

Could those Cap players have committed to those same schools on their own? Maybe. Did it help having an advocate on their side who knows these coaches personally put in a good word for them? Absolutely

You people are nutz or are just maybe really strategic with an audience.
Where do you think those top 20 coaches are going to be otherwise when top clubs are playing? Barbados? There is a finite number of college coaching positions at top schools. The head coach position anyway can pay pretty good and it's not like they can just jump to another career track easily if it doesn't work out (and they lose). No top college coach in their right mind is getting influenced on taking their very finite recruiting class by a freaking club director.
They are at the fields. They will be watching the top teams. It's the club director's job to field top squads, or as best as they can, so that their players are seen as often as possible and against their competition (for spots).
When your team isn't a top team? THAT's when having some trust will help, becaiuse otherwise coaches won't be showing up or discounting the competition without a word.

The good word is to their character (or not), as a teammate, yada. ALL OTHER EVALUATION on whether they can play is up to the college coach. NOT a freaking club director. But parents eat it up on here, so have at it.

Cool so .. bet your kid’s future on that. I’d rather my kid have an advocate who knows these coaches and is marketing me to them. But going solo is obviously better for you so you do you bro

We're not bros and false equivalencies don't make you any more correct. College coaches do not recruit to sign your athlete because your club director tells them to. If you are in fact counting on that, you are up the wrong creek. You should just say thanks for the tip.

Cool bro so .. again… bet your kid’s future on that. Never said “counting on” a RC for anything - now you’re just straight makin s*ht up. But I’m gonna take a club with a RC who knows the coaches and will advocate for my kid over one that doesn’t, that’s for damn sure. Only upside. You should try walking around with a sandwich board at tournaments with your kid’s stats on it. That might work. Or keep having that team mom awkwardly pass out flyers to coaches on the sidelines. The second hand embarrassment from that is REAL real.

You're not paying attention very closely, so I get it. I never said "counted on" any of the wild stuff you said I said (didn't even allude to any of that), so now you understand what putting those words in people's mouths is like.

For a year... Capital boosters have been selling our experience @ it is the reason coupled often with "you're doing an experiment". Along with a lot of other intrusive things. Kind of like you're doing. As it turns out, where they were directing specifically at a group that actually had someone with a ton of that same experience. So maybe not the honest of intentions? Meantime, the idea that Cap has cornered the market on marketing so well that it's "the secret sauce" lives on and will rope in converts that have been sandblasted with propoganda.

Another day.

You’re too easy to tune up, bro. Too easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

You have no idea what the talent level makeup of the team is. They just started this a year ago. Coppermine was quite a while ago and they are only now with a lineup of strong teams. And they're still making mistakes.

How do you think whatever your favorite club is will fare if there aren't moderately decent options around? The ecosystem would die.

The team has been thriving for 4+ years and it will continue to.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

They can feel good that they don’t play for Pride, Stars, MCE or MDU DC. Seriously, Capital Blue and MnD DC will be a competitive game for the next few years. It’s good to have two competitive teams in the DC area that will likely be ranked in the top 20.

But that’s just it: they were not really competing with the MD teams when they were all together. Given the dropoff in future years, this looks like a trainwreck.

[Anonymous]

And you have proven the point of which came first, the chicken or the egg

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

SR and HC coaches have daughters at younger M&D DC age groups.

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Anonymous wrote:tell me how any club who's director of recruiting is a senior in college is a threat?

No dog in this fight but this is hilarious.

The parents on this board have some wildly inaccurate perception of the importance of club recruiting directors. They don’t have some magical superpower to get a girl recruited.

I’ve had D1 college coaches tell me they are not impressed with some the club staff held in high esteem on this board.

It is pretty funny, and the group here and probably other places (the sidelines?) is pretty "committed". 24/7/365. They do speak about having to keep them within arm's length if they do have players/a team of players that they like. Begrudgingly keep the lines of communication open with all the pings they get.

Ironically, it's the director of team(s) down the list that alert them to a high end player or 2 that might be underscouted that's the most valuable. That's where relationships or trust can help.

Fortunately or unfortunately, there are naive parents that they cater to whose FOMO is easy prey.

I can only speak from experience in saying that Capital's RC helped my daughter understand which coaches were highly interested in her (versus those who just wanted to keep her close in case their tier one lists didn't pan out) during her recruiting summer. Instead of wasting time and money attending camps at schools where she was a second-tier choice, we focused on schools where coaches had her as their top choice. It actually was really helpful and my daughter wound up committing to a top 25 team.

To your point, the RC didn’t have influence on a coach. They were important in planning the approach to recruiting. I believe the previous poster was getting at parents who believe the RC has some ability to magically get players recruited.

A RC can't get a bad player magically recruited to a top school - you're totally right about that. A good recruiting director wouldn't put his / her reputation on the line to even try.

But a good recruiting director can *help* a strong player get noticed if they have strong relationships built on trust and history.

On top ten club teams alone, there are over 250 players vying for just 160 spots (average of 8 per recruiting class which is being generous) on top 20 D1 teams. A good recruiting director with relationships can get those coaches to the sidelines and talk up the great players. The rest is entirely up to the player to perform when the lights are on.

Past Capital teams ranked anywhere from 12-15 have sent girls to crazy schools. Were they great players? Yes. Were there hundreds of other great players all aiming for the same schools? Yes.

Could those Cap players have committed to those same schools on their own? Maybe. Did it help having an advocate on their side who knows these coaches personally put in a good word for them? Absolutely

You people are nutz or are just maybe really strategic with an audience.
Where do you think those top 20 coaches are going to be otherwise when top clubs are playing? Barbados? There is a finite number of college coaching positions at top schools. The head coach position anyway can pay pretty good and it's not like they can just jump to another career track easily if it doesn't work out (and they lose). No top college coach in their right mind is getting influenced on taking their very finite recruiting class by a freaking club director.
They are at the fields. They will be watching the top teams. It's the club director's job to field top squads, or as best as they can, so that their players are seen as often as possible and against their competition (for spots).
When your team isn't a top team? THAT's when having some trust will help, becaiuse otherwise coaches won't be showing up or discounting the competition without a word.

The good word is to their character (or not), as a teammate, yada. ALL OTHER EVALUATION on whether they can play is up to the college coach. NOT a freaking club director. But parents eat it up on here, so have at it.

Cool so .. bet your kid’s future on that. I’d rather my kid have an advocate who knows these coaches and is marketing me to them. But going solo is obviously better for you so you do you bro

We're not bros and false equivalencies don't make you any more correct. College coaches do not recruit to sign your athlete because your club director tells them to. If you are in fact counting on that, you are up the wrong creek. You should just say thanks for the tip.

Cool bro so .. again… bet your kid’s future on that. Never said “counting on” a RC for anything - now you’re just straight makin s*ht up. But I’m gonna take a club with a RC who knows the coaches and will advocate for my kid over one that doesn’t, that’s for damn sure. Only upside. You should try walking around with a sandwich board at tournaments with your kid’s stats on it. That might work. Or keep having that team mom awkwardly pass out flyers to coaches on the sidelines. The second hand embarrassment from that is REAL real.

You're not paying attention very closely, so I get it. I never said "counted on" any of the wild stuff you said I said (didn't even allude to any of that), so now you understand what putting those words in people's mouths is like.

For a year... Capital boosters have been selling our experience @ it is the reason coupled often with "you're doing an experiment". Along with a lot of other intrusive things. Kind of like you're doing. As it turns out, where they were directing specifically at a group that actually had someone with a ton of that same experience. So maybe not the honest of intentions? Meantime, the idea that Cap has cornered the market on marketing so well that it's "the secret sauce" lives on and will rope in converts that have been sandblasted with propoganda.

Another day.

You’re too easy to tune up, bro. Too easy.

Pretty funny how you could read ur quotes and mine and then spit that out. A juvenile with the insults, too even though the verbiage gave your intellectual capacity away awhile ago. Know that you don't know how any of this works.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

SR and HC coaches have daughters at younger M&D DC age groups.

For now. 100% believe the SR and HC kids will be at MD clubs when they get older.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

SR and HC coaches have daughters at younger M&D DC age groups.

And they will also choose cap when their time comes.😄

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how M&D DC can feel good right now. By most accounts, you lost at least 50% of your players; on top of that, the future looks very bleak with the ‘30 teams and beyond. Who in their right mind thinks M&D will be investing in this future?

SR and HC coaches have daughters at younger M&D DC age groups.

And they will also choose cap when their time comes.😄

Yeah right...girls who go to MD clubs rarely come back unless they have to.