Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:You purposely tried to choose busted photos. Here’s how Travis looked before his “glow up” and here’s the entire Kelce stock. If y’all think Swift is marrying into let alone reproducing with this stock you are cray cray

Truly do not see much difference in attractiveness.

Travis is a beard-fish. Just Google what he looks like without facial hair and you will see the difference

DP - Travis isn’t pretty like Joe is, but who cares? He’s plenty attractive, facial hair or no. Besides, Joe Alwyn almost never sees the light of day, so his beauty is largely moot.

NP. Joe Alwyn is like if mayonnaise was a person

His recent roles seemed to be a result of being Taylor’s boyfriend. Hope he can find success but feel he doesn’t have the talent to make up for a lack of personality.

I think being associated with Taylor has actually hurt his career.

Football career maybe but at his age he’s not long for that world anyway. More people know who Taylor is than Travis so it raises his profile for a career after football.

The post was in reference to Joe Alwyn.

My B. I had never heard of Joe before their relationship? He must’ve had some level of fame before since they met at the Met Gala.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is the Yoko Ono of the Kansas City Chiefs. They’re 3-5 over their last 8 games, which seems to coincide with when their relationship took off.

Travis has been looking stressed lately.

I watched some “viral” clips from his oversharing podcast with his brother. There is zero twinkle in his eye when he talks about Swift. This nonsense is beyond fake.

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Anonymous wrote:Jason and his wife are surprisingly down to earth people for a pro football player and his wife. I think Travis is fairly down to earth as well BUT I think he really enjoys the trappings of fame. Jason doesn't seem to care and also seems to value privacy.

From what he's said publicly, I think Jason of course supports his brother but also seems to think the circus around the relationship is not a good thing. There are lots of women out there -- you don't HAVE to fall for one who is going to create this much drama in your life. So far I think Travis is enjoying it but his family maybe less so.

What exactly has Jason said to illustrate this? Both him and his wife have repeatedly said positive things, suggestive things, etc. on their podcast dating back since July. I don't get your vibe at all.

I don't get the sense they dislike Taylor, I get the sense his family finds the attention and media circus around the relationship to be a lot, and not really their deal. Kylie has mentioned that it's not her "cup of tea" to be in the media spotlight, and also has chosen not to involve herself in it, though other players wives whose husbands are close to Travis have embraced it a bit more (not a criticism, just noting that people have different preferences about how much they want to be in the spotlight and be photographed and filmed by the media, and Kylie is more camera shy). Jason is obviously a more public person as he's an actual public figure, plus he does stuff like his podcast and has also appeared on SNL. But he's also said, "On one hand, I’m happy for my brother that he seems to be in a relationship that he’s excited about, that he is genuine about. But there’s another end of it where it’s like, ‘Man, this is a lot.’"

Again, these are criticisms of Taylor or them saying she's wrong for him. It's just an acknowledgment that this is a very weird and maybe not very desirable way for a close relative to have a relationship.

It's not like this is new. Joe Alwyn also didn't like the hoopla around being Taylor's boyfriend, and he was able to escape the worst of it by spending a lot of time in the UK where there is less focus on Taylor, plus Covid gave them a reprieve. But the relationship with Travis has been the opposite -- just full bore in the public eye. It reminds me of her relationship with Tom Hiddleston (though it seems like a better personality/life phase match) in terms of the publicity and how it's all playing out very much in the open in a way that only intensifies stuff like marriage and baby rumors.

It is just my impression that this is not how the Kelce's might *choose* to be if they were in charge of picking Travis's girlfriends. Not because of anything against Taylor personally, but because that level of media attention is stressful. In fact, Kelce was heavily criticized for her comments even though they were mild and obviously about her own preferences and not a criticism of Taylor, and then wound up making a statement to address it, and seriously, who wants to be constantly asked about her BIL's relationship in the press and then on top of that be forced to make clarifications when the intense media scrutiny leads people to take what you say out of context and infer things that aren't there.

None of this is Taylor's fault exactly, but a lot of regular people just wouldn't want to deal with it, no matter how happy they are that their brother/BIL/son was head over heels. Like I said, you can fall for a lot of different people, and most of them would not come with this baggage.

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The podcast today was strange. It's getting really weird how Travis refuses to talk about Taylor at all - not even when there's a funny cartoon of him holding her cats. He made it look like he had no idea why they made a cartoon of him holding her cats. IDK. When you care about someone, they come up in conversation? And you acknowledge it and move on?

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Anonymous wrote:The podcast today was strange. It's getting really weird how Travis refuses to talk about Taylor at all - not even when there's a funny cartoon of him holding her cats. He made it look like he had no idea why they made a cartoon of him holding her cats. IDK. When you care about someone, they come up in conversation? And you acknowledge it and move on?

I mean, he and Taylor basically set themselves up for this. This is exactly why a lot of celebrities choose to keep relationships as private as possible, and not do things like make public appearances at one another's events, engage in PDA in public or semi-public locations, talk about their relationship a lot, etc. Some of the attention them is not their fault and is inevitable. A significant portion of it is their own fault, like Taylor attending games in the showiest possible way (with other celebs, sitting prominently in the boxes, being very animated and attention grabbing when watching), their very public dates (totally unnecessary, they could have dates in private homes or sneak into private rooms at restaurants without attracting attention, many celebs do both), Travis discussing the relationship/referring to it frequently on his podcast until now, the seemingly staged events like Travis greeting her as she came offstage at her concert, etc. Literally all of that could have been avoided and their relationship would be lower profile and be receiving less scrutiny.

This is a real "f**k around and find out" situation, IMO. They both seem like nice people and they are obviously both talented and successful, but they really played with fire in the way they conducted this relationship and now they are paying the price of realizing that a super high profile relationship between two celebrities is actually not that fun for the people involved. This is not news. Go as Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio.

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Anonymous wrote:The podcast today was strange. It's getting really weird how Travis refuses to talk about Taylor at all - not even when there's a funny cartoon of him holding her cats. He made it look like he had no idea why they made a cartoon of him holding her cats. IDK. When you care about someone, they come up in conversation? And you acknowledge it and move on?

I mean, he and Taylor basically set themselves up for this. This is exactly why a lot of celebrities choose to keep relationships as private as possible, and not do things like make public appearances at one another's events, engage in PDA in public or semi-public locations, talk about their relationship a lot, etc. Some of the attention them is not their fault and is inevitable. A significant portion of it is their own fault, like Taylor attending games in the showiest possible way (with other celebs, sitting prominently in the boxes, being very animated and attention grabbing when watching), their very public dates (totally unnecessary, they could have dates in private homes or sneak into private rooms at restaurants without attracting attention, many celebs do both), Travis discussing the relationship/referring to it frequently on his podcast until now, the seemingly staged events like Travis greeting her as she came offstage at her concert, etc. Literally all of that could have been avoided and their relationship would be lower profile and be receiving less scrutiny.

This is a real "f**k around and find out" situation, IMO. They both seem like nice people and they are obviously both talented and successful, but they really played with fire in the way they conducted this relationship and now they are paying the price of realizing that a super high profile relationship between two celebrities is actually not that fun for the people involved. This is not news. Go as Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio.

Interesting. Yeah I think that didn't work with Joe Alwyn and the pendulum may have swung a little too far to the public side with this relationship. I really hope they can work it out.

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I don’t know- I kind of think they ARE ducking into restaurants through the back door. I find it hard to believe that they haven’t been to a restaurant the whole time she’s been in KC. The other two times were parties, which of course they should attend (I think Travis actually hosted NYE?). I’m a football fan and I just don’t think it matters if she’s there. They totally toned down their coverage of her but as she noted, she can’t control that. She enters and exits as easily as she can. What else is she supposed to do? She wants to watch him play football.

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Pp-I think maybe his PR team got in a little over their heads, and maybe they are overcorrecting a little on the podcast. I know he's said repeatedly that he wants to keep his personal life private, but it's getting weird.

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She has said it herself. You openly support someone you love. This is a public rebound “F” you to Joe. He made sure they snuck around and she probably felt that he wasn’t wiling to stand up and support her or proud of their relationship. I think she got tired of apologizing for her success and is happy she found someone secure enough to openly support her. What woman wants to be a man’s secret?

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This is them on NYE. They look like two actors. This is not love. It’s all fake af to overexpose him so he can try and segue into Hollywood. Taylor is so over this and is probably staring at a clock waiting for the contract to end.

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He seems like a good guy, but oof… he dresses like a clown.

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You all need to allow Tswift and Travis the space to discover their feelings and navigate their relationships. Public scrutiny and criticism have always been there. She gets that. You are not going to engineer her toward him, nor will you break them up.
What if they never fall in love? Why if they do and date for years like she did with Joe. Chill out a bit.

HIS decision to keep a low profile on the podcast might be a deliberate choice to avoid unnecessary attention. If he talked about her too often, you’d all being saying “See! It’s PR.”

Analyze but don’t overanalyze, people.

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Anonymous wrote:He seems like a good guy, but oof… he dresses like a clown.

I admit I’m not a fan. But at least he has expression. He’s anything but boring.

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Anonymous wrote:She has said it herself. You openly support someone you love. This is a public rebound “F” you to Joe. He made sure they snuck around and she probably felt that he wasn’t wiling to stand up and support her or proud of their relationship. I think she got tired of apologizing for her success and is happy she found someone secure enough to openly support her. What woman wants to be a man’s secret?

Yeah, and while Joe may be talented in his own right, the only reason he has this level of fame is his relation to her. We wouldn’t know who he is otherwise - he’s been in a few films but is very new to the scene and doesn’t necessarily have “star quality.” And no way would he have a Grammy. His insistence on ONLY talking about the work - very boring.

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Anonymous wrote:You purposely tried to choose busted photos. Here’s how Travis looked before his “glow up” and here’s the entire Kelce stock. If y’all think Swift is marrying into let alone reproducing with this stock you are cray cray

Truly do not see much difference in attractiveness.

Travis is a beard-fish. Just Google what he looks like without facial hair and you will see the difference

Travis looks fine without a beard! I like him both ways. I also like Joe. They are both attractive guys.