From those of us ESL

Anonymous
Hi - I speak ESL, which means - I speak, read and write more than one language.

Yes, sometimes I will misspell words. Sometimes I will use bad grammer. Thank you for pointing it out and insulting me.

I'm sure that you speak, read and write wonderful Russian. I also speak (although do not write) a little French.

How many languages do you speak?

Before you start slamming someone for their spelling, give a thought to the fact that English might not be their first language?

Anonymous
Want a cookie? Because one DCUM lady is baking some for her neighbors as we speak, and another DCUM lady can probably tell you which Starbucks has the most smooshed ones.
Anonymous
Is the cookie thing this weeks special snowflake? Can we let it go already....its very annoying.
Anonymous
honey, either get thicker skin or get off DCUM. I have been beat to hell in threads for things that were a lot more personal than my spelling or grammar. I don't know these people, and so it just doesn't matter at all. You can't let it get to you, and if it does, you have to find a friendlier on-line community (and seriously, this isn't it).
Anonymous
And since you bring up French, let me point out the French are merciless when someone does not speak or write their language perfectly.

You can use spell check if spelling is an issue.
Anonymous
I don't go on a Russian message board insulting people in a post full of typos.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't go on a Russian message board insulting people in a post full of typos.


+1
Anonymous
ok, I have to....you don't speak ESL (short for English as a second language)...you speak English as ESL.

Anonymous
OP I'm ESL like you and I love correcting people's grammar and orthography.

I was raised by a teacher and she was very picky with both aspects of the language. Once I learned English I transferred the "obsession" to my new language. Same with Spanish, Italian and now Hindi.

While I know my skills are not perfect I keep trying to improve. I read a lot and don't use the fact that I'm learning as an excuse. Instead I use it as an incentive to keep going.
Anonymous
PP, I admire your linguistic curiosity. You should note that the correct term is reared, not raised. One raises animals but rears children. You sound like you like to be precise, so I thought I'd pass that along.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:ok, I have to....you don't speak ESL (short for English as a second language)...you speak English as ESL.



Not the OP, but ... "I speak ESL" = "I speak English as a second language". What you wrote was "you speak English as English as a second language". Just saying.
Anonymous
I really appreciate it, PP. Thank you very much!
Anonymous
Wow - well, OP, I understand where you are coming from! Never mind the harsh responses here, although as someone said, if you want people to be nicer, DCUM is not the place for it.

I speak Russian as a second language (and also a tiny bit of French). I remember one field trip with a teacher when some of the students were teasing her about her accent when speaking English or something she said.

She got very serious, and she told us that she was patient enough to listen to our mistakes without laughing at us, and she wished we afford her the same opportunity.

It was very humbling. Sometimes people forget the effort it takes to learn all the intricacies of a foreign language. I admire those who are willing to keep at it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hi - I speak ESL, which means - I speak, read and write more than one language.

Yes, sometimes I will misspell words. Sometimes I will use bad grammer. Thank you for pointing it out and insulting me.

I'm sure that you speak, read and write wonderful Russian. I also speak (although do not write) a little French.

How many languages do you speak?

Before you start slamming someone for their spelling, give a thought to the fact that English might not be their first language?



The spelling police didn't issue a citation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP, I admire your linguistic curiosity. You should note that the correct term is reared, not raised. One raises animals but rears children. You sound like you like to be precise, so I thought I'd pass that along.


Do you hang out in the over 100 forum? That's pretty archaic and far from universal form you're teaching, there.

http://www.englishforums.com/English/RaiseVsRear/wbjmk/post.htm
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