Moving from Arlington to Bethesda(ish) for job--best school clusters?

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Anonymous wrote:Avoid MCPS at all costs.


OP here, circling back to this thread after I see it blew up a little--why do you say this? Is it the failures around DL?

I am hearing the exact same complaints about FCPS and APS. My older child was in a "Big 3" private for K/1st because at the time we were living in a very badly rated school district...and (to put it mildly) we weren't impressed, at all. Class content was behind his public school peers in North Arlington/FCPS. DL was a disaster last spring, and we couldn't fathom spending $45k for DL again this fall (they're not back in person, even for hybrid). We are looking forward to moving into a solid public school district for the Fall, what with the job change, etc. I tend to think a lot of public school families have a "grass is greener" attitude about privates, and, coming from the other side of the fence, it just wasn't our experience.

Honest question if this statement is just because of the way MCPS has handled DL, or if there are other issues at play? Personally, I don't know of any school or district that has handled DL well.

Don't mind this PP. She/he is probably a private school parent or a wannabe from another jurisdiction. Since they cannot compete with MCPS, they take pleasures bashing MCPS on DCUM.


Agreed. I think the way they've handled DL has been atrocious, but my kids' individual teachers have been uniformly terrific, both now and in the Before Times, with one exception (and she was just meh, not punitive or anything). Even now, I am so grateful my kids have the teachers they do--they're working SO hard remotely. It's painful knowing what a difference they would have made in my kids' lives had they been in person, but that just is what it is.

I also think that a lot of the MCPS bashers have little context. I used to do educational research, which meant traveling all over the Midwest and meeting with teachers who worked in everything from urban, high-crime schools to teeny-tiny rural schools with like seven kids in two combined grades, and everything in between. MCPS is better than 90% of public school districts in the country, problems aside.


Having moved here from the Northeast, this has not been our experience at all. Massachusetts schools are light years better than the MCPS W schools. No comparison.

Massachusetts is a STATE and MCPS is a COUNTY school district.
If you had gone to MCPS, you would have known the difference and not make the apples to oranges comparison.


Well dp but Mass is #1 State in the whole country for public schools

Public School Ranking by State

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(1 = Best) State Total Score 'Quality' Rank 'Safety' Rank
1 Massachusetts 71.73 1 1
2 Connecticut 66.25 2 19
3 New Jersey 65.64 3 15
4 Virginia 63.75 4 3
5 Vermont 61.64 8 4
6 New Hampshire 61.27 7 6
7 Minnesota 59.89 6 22
8 Wisconsin 59.66 5 24
9 Delaware 59.65 15 2
10 Maryland 58.51 11 9
11 Nebraska 58.42 12 8
12 New York 57.03 16 10
13 Illinois 57.03 10 28
14 North Dakota 56.76 9 34
15 Indiana 55.16 23 12
16 Kentucky 54.73 14 33
17 Colorado 54.71 17 27
18 Utah 54.71 20 18
19 Wyoming 54.45 18 29
20 Maine 54.23 24 14
21 Washington 53.99 26 5
22 Florida 53.71 19 35
23 Iowa 53.70 25 16
24 Pennsylvania 53.26 22 30
25 South Dakota 52.83 13 46
26 Montana 52.39 21 42
27 Rhode Island 51.98 29 11
28 Texas 51.79 30 13
29 Kansas 51.56 27 25
30 North Carolina 51.00 28 21
31 Hawaii 48.22 36 26
32 Ohio 48.01 33 39
33 Michigan 47.50 34 38
34 Georgia 47.45 37 36
35 Tennessee 47.11 31 45
36 Missouri 46.72 32 48
37 California 45.93 38 32
38 Idaho 45.02 35 50
39 West Virginia 43.54 45 7
40 Oregon 43.24 40 37
41 District of Columbia 42.38 41 44
42 Arkansas 41.76 39 51
43 South Carolina 41.44 42 41
44 Alabama 41.21 46 17
45 Nevada 41.02 44 40
46 Mississippi 40.94 43 43
47 Oklahoma 38.74 48 20
48 Alaska 38.60 47 23
49 Arizona 36.84 50 31
50 Louisiana 34.65 49 47
51 New Mexico 27.61 51 49


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DC 3 41 High Spending & Weak School System
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MI 37 33 Mixed
MN 19 7 Mixed
MS 47 46 Mixed
MO 33 36 Mixed
MT 29 26 Mixed
NE 26 11 Low Spending & Strong School System
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NY 1 12 Mixed
NC 40 30 Mixed
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TX 45 28 Mixed
UT 50 18 Low Spending & Strong School System
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We should have chosen VA over MD.
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^^ apologies that came out a lot longer and more confusing than I intended. Here's the link

https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.


https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/show/31.page
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..


Me too. I had two kids in the same grade - one in private and one in MCPS. No comparison. Pulled the private kid asap to join the MCPS kid. Paying for private schools in this area is like throwing money down the toilet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..


Me too. I had two kids in the same grade - one in private and one in MCPS. No comparison. Pulled the private kid asap to join the MCPS kid. Paying for private schools in this area is like throwing money down the toilet.

Yep, no private school is worth up $45000 over MCPS in this area.
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Genuine, non-snarky question: if you moved your children from public to independent/private, why are you (anyone that this applies to) still posting on the public school side of this website?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..


Me too. I had two kids in the same grade - one in private and one in MCPS. No comparison. Pulled the private kid asap to join the MCPS kid. Paying for private schools in this area is like throwing money down the toilet.




Thank you for proving you're even dumber than you seem.
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..


Me too. I had two kids in the same grade - one in private and one in MCPS. No comparison. Pulled the private kid asap to join the MCPS kid. Paying for private schools in this area is like throwing money down the toilet.

Yep, no private school is worth up $45000 over MCPS in this area.


Sorry your kid was rejected.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine, non-snarky question: if you moved your children from public to independent/private, why are you (anyone that this applies to) still posting on the public school side of this website?


If they live in MOCO they pay taxes to public schools. I'd say that is a pecuniary interest.
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Anonymous wrote:Most W families with more than 2 kids and a huge house don't send their kids to private. Not sure if they can't or won't afford it.

Because it is really not worth it at all to spend money for private schools when you have a better education for free in the w clusters.


We have children in both (HS Private and MS MCPS). Sorry, but private schools even hybrid is far superior to MCPS.

What people will make believe to justify paying for an inferior product.


Unlike you, we have a child in private school and see the value and the rigor. Once this year is over, our second child will hopefully be out of MCPS. Yes, we know you're thrilled we are leaving. However, no one will be happier than our family. We will be leaving MCPS in the rear view, where it belongs.

Sorry to bust your bubbles but I had kids in private schools but I realized that it was a waste of money.
Been there, done that, moved on..


Me too. I had two kids in the same grade - one in private and one in MCPS. No comparison. Pulled the private kid asap to join the MCPS kid. Paying for private schools in this area is like throwing money down the toilet.

Yep, no private school is worth up $45000 over MCPS in this area.


Sorry your kid was rejected.


LOL
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine, non-snarky question: if you moved your children from public to independent/private, why are you (anyone that this applies to) still posting on the public school side of this website?


If they live in MOCO they pay taxes to public schools. I'd say that is a pecuniary interest.


Quit using such big words on the public school forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine, non-snarky question: if you moved your children from public to independent/private, why are you (anyone that this applies to) still posting on the public school side of this website?


If they live in MOCO they pay taxes to public schools. I'd say that is a pecuniary interest.


Eh. It seems like it’s less about their financial investment in the county and more about gloating...but DCUM will be DCUM, I guess.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine, non-snarky question: if you moved your children from public to independent/private, why are you (anyone that this applies to) still posting on the public school side of this website?


If they live in MOCO they pay taxes to public schools. I'd say that is a pecuniary interest.


My friends who live in Montgomery County who don't (and won't) have children have the identical pecuniary interest yet don't post on this forum. Odd, isn't it?
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