Which school best supports children who are advanced academically?

Anonymous
We looked at the magnets for 2 children. One was in a ES magnet, going to MS, and the other just to HS. We had teachers at both the MS and the HS, and with particular venom the HS, really denigrate CTY. Also, at the two CTY awards ceremonies we've been to for Maryland, there have been ZERO magnet MS students there, suggesting that they didn't take the CTY tests (SAT for 6, 7, and 8 grades). So on both counts I'm concluding that the MoCo magnets don't like CTY. Helpful?


I'm sure by the time these kids hit MS and HS they have hit the ceiling for the CTY exams (SCAT) and do not find these as challenging. It's interesting these kids go on at Blair to gain a disproportionate numbers of National Merit Semi-Finalist distinction, Siemen's/Westinghouse awards and math/ science and computer science awards. Some of these kids leave John Hopklins CTY to Duke TIP program.


Anonymous
desperately seeking approval on the private school forum...go back to MD public school forum where people care about the magnets.


....an ego crafted of egg shells. No mother, private and/or public school, desires approval from an overly defensive and paranoid schizophrenic who is threatened by contrary opinions of others and cannot stand on her own feet. Slink back to the "group think" comfort of your Petri dish.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure by the time these kids hit MS and HS they have hit the ceiling for the CTY exams (SCAT) and do not find these as challenging. It's interesting these kids go on at Blair to gain a disproportionate numbers of National Merit Semi-Finalist distinction, Siemen's/Westinghouse awards and math/ science and computer science awards. Some of these kids leave John Hopklins CTY to Duke TIP program.

This is not quite right. SCAT is not the highest - they administer SAT as entry requirement for their MS and HS programs. Maybe by HS they will be doing other things, but the case you make is not right for MS, and I stand by the prior analysis. (I know the magnet situation pretty well, btw.)
Anonymous
This is not quite right. SCAT is not the highest - they administer SAT as entry requirement for their MS and HS programs. Maybe by HS they will be doing other things, but the case you make is not right for MS, and I stand by the prior analysis. (I know the magnet situation pretty well, btw.)


You know too much! My son is in the MCPS magnet program. When we attended the CTY awards ceremony this fall at JHU there was one student from TPMS that was listed as an high honors awardee. Your information is incorrect. I am aware that CTY also uses the SAT. So does TIP and NUMATS and a few MCPS CTY award winners move to other talent searches in middle and high school. My son is among them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:desperately seeking approval on the private school forum...go back to MD public school forum where people care about the magnets.


Hah! You want to trash magnet kids (as 7:32 I'm presuming) in the privacy of a forum where nobody will challenge the validity of your sweeping generalizations. Your generalizations about magnet kids are totally wrong. I know, because we have 2 kids in magnets. Both my kids did some private, so I hope that qualifies me to be on this thread.

From experience, I agree that kids in MS grades take the SAT for CTY. My kid who is a MS magnet now is not in CTY, and we have heard zero, zip, nada from the magnet school about getting him to apply. I have one kid in CTY but only because that kid was doing a non-magnet for MS, and that non-magnet school pushed the CTY test.

I'm curious as to whether anybody knows WHY the magnet schools "hate" CTY. I had not heard that the teachers "hate it," although I had noticed their indifference. Maybe I need to go on the public school forum.
Anonymous
To the last few posters, I counted the TPMSers at the CTY high honrs SAT/ACT thing this fall (counted this am from the list). There are 18 TPMS students. There look to be about 165 students on the list (so about 10% from TPMS). My own view is that since the vast majority of honorees are from MoCo (am not going to count, but is very very obvious from eyeballing), 10% is not that great. This, combined with my experience of teachers being negative about CTY (teachers in my DC's MoCo elementary magnet, and those administrators at TPMS and Blair), make me think that many of those kids don't apply. Maybe indifference - but what we saw was overtly negative.
It is not really very important, in my view, except when people claim that the magnets do great in CTY. Their students aren't taking the test (I prefer to believe this than an alternative explanation, which is that they take the test in droves and don't do vry well.)
Anonymous
What point are you trying to make? Have you seen the average SAT scores of those individuals in the Blair Magnet Program? Have you seen the average PSAT scores of the Blair Magnet group? Can you explain why 40 percent of their class this year are National Merit Semi-Finalists? How do you think these kids would perform on the SCAT, Explore, SAT or ACT(administered by the College Board, Duke-TIP, or even CTY)? Does it matter what agency administers these exams to these high performing kids? Does it matter if these kids take the exam administered by CTY or the College Board? The exam is the same ... as is their high performance. What point are you trying to make, if any?
Anonymous
I agree with PP. The bar for CTY is low compared to where kids at TPMS and Blair magnet school perform.
Anonymous
Another poster here who agrees the bar for CTY is low compared to where the magnet kids are. I'm the poster with 2 magnet kids, one of whom does CTY. The non-CTY kid could definitely get over the CTY test threshold, based on IQ and other standardized tests, but we haven't tried and we haven't really decided whether to try. This kid gets enough challenge in the magnet and we want to leave some time for sports, music and other activities.
Anonymous
You treat me as hostile, but I'm trying to make a point: magnets don't like CTY. Has nothing to do w/ quality of the magnets, where my children have been students and that, while not perfect, are very high quality. Sheesh!
Anonymous
So magnets don't like CTY. So what, if you believe this is true. Therefore, what is the point are you trying to make?
Anonymous
So magnets don't like CTY. So what, if you believe this is true. Therefore, what is the point are you trying to make?


I meant to say what is the point you are trying to make with your new found observation that magnets don't like CTY? Should magnets like CTY? If so, why?


Anonymous
Go back to the discussion of 11/10 and 11/11.
Anonymous
and your point in a nutshell?
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