DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.

I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.

Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.

OMG. come on. I think it's even in the handbook someplace that if they throw up they can't come back for 24 hours after. Nobody ever knows whether it's food poisoning or a virus. I hope this post is not serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then lead with the teachers union stating “our first priority is in person school”.

Set that priority!

This is exactly what the union said...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.

I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.

Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.

The rule is 24 hours vomit and fever free. Come on, if your kid threw up on Tuesday don’t bring them back Wednesday. It’s disgusting and an obvious F you to the rules and others in the class (students and teachers).

[Anonymous]

To the person who said no specials because of 100 kids... As a science teacher I teach 120 a day. Your solution isn’t feasible at the middle and high school level.


To the poster above:
Art teachers can see up to 180 students in a day. Every day is a new set of classes. So if you teacher 500 students in Art in a given week you are exposed to 500 students, sometimes they come twice weekly. My understanding of Middle and High school is that you see a fraction of that many students weekly. Obviously, still not a safe situation either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the person who said no specials because of 100 kids... As a science teacher I teach 120 a day. Your solution isn’t feasible at the middle and high school level.


To the poster above:
Art teachers can see up to 180 students in a day. Every day is a new set of classes. So if you teacher 500 students in Art in a given week you are exposed to 500 students, sometimes they come twice weekly. My understanding of Middle and High school is that you see a fraction of that many students weekly. Obviously, still not a safe situation either.

Ok fine. You both get trophies.

[Anonymous]

Teachers- we need to be back at work. Parents- you need to help us fight for cleaning & class sizes. Without it- we’ll get shut down again. Parents- you've also gotta understand that DC still hasn’t given us a definition of what hybrid looks like. Covid kiddo care is hard to find & we find need a running head start.
We miss your students. We love our jobs.
We can make this work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers- we need to be back at work. Parents- you need to help us fight for cleaning & class sizes. Without it- we’ll get shut down again. Parents- you've also gotta understand that DC still hasn’t given us a definition of what hybrid looks like. Covid kiddo care is hard to find & we find need a running head start.
We miss your students. We love our jobs.
We can make this work.

Yes we can. Parents, please reach out to DCPS and demand details and guarantees of the protocols and protections they claim they will provide!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, but then the teachers union should say they support in-person school with appropriate precautions.

Make the common goal in-person school or it won’t happen.

80% of teachers in DCPS have said they won’t return to in-person work until there’s a vaccine

Source?

WTU call with teachers today. Over 1,000 teachers in attendance. 80% said no in person until a vaccine

I doubt it represents teachers as a whole. I'm a DCPS teacher who heard about the WTU call and had no interest in joining, and I imagine many teachers like me (who generally trust DCPS to figure this out, and who plan to teach in person when DCPS decides that is best) chose not to attend the meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.

I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.

Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.

It's DCPS policy to keep your kid home for 24 hours after vomiting, so you can't send them back the next day after they threw up at school.

In the specific, most recent case I'm thinking about, I chatted with the kid's after school nanny about it at pickup, and she said that yeah, the kid had been feeling off and having fevers on and off all week, but the parents sent him anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine, but then the teachers union should say they support in-person school with appropriate precautions.

Make the common goal in-person school or it won’t happen.

80% of teachers in DCPS have said they won’t return to in-person work until there’s a vaccine

Source?

WTU call with teachers today. Over 1,000 teachers in attendance. 80% said no in person until a vaccine

I doubt it represents teachers as a whole. I'm a DCPS teacher who heard about the WTU call and had no interest in joining, and I imagine many teachers like me (who generally trust DCPS to figure this out, and who plan to teach in person when DCPS decides that is best) chose not to attend the meeting.

The PP was not correct. Go back a few pages and I responded with the actual poll question and percentages of responses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.

I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.

Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.

The rule is 24 hours vomit and fever free. Come on, if your kid threw up on Tuesday don’t bring them back Wednesday. It’s disgusting and an obvious F you to the rules and others in the class (students and teachers).

This. I don't care what you think the reason is your kid threw up. There is always the chance they have a stomach virus or the flu. Follow the rules which are there to protect everybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine, but then the teachers union should say they support in-person school with appropriate precautions.

Make the common goal in-person school or it won’t happen.

80% of teachers in DCPS have said they won’t return to in-person work until there’s a vaccine

Source?

WTU call with teachers today. Over 1,000 teachers in attendance. 80% said no in person until a vaccine

I doubt it represents teachers as a whole. I'm a DCPS teacher who heard about the WTU call and had no interest in joining, and I imagine many teachers like me (who generally trust DCPS to figure this out, and who plan to teach in person when DCPS decides that is best) chose not to attend the meeting.

Do you really trust DCPS? I'm amazed. I know very few teachers who trust DCPS. I don't work WOTP though. Anyone who has been employed in this dysfunctional system for more than a couple years knows that they aren't looking out for us. I hope they will get it right, but I can't say I trust them to do so. That's why they need to provide specifics for what they will do to keep us safe and there needs to be some measure of accountability. Kind of like IMPACT but for safety precautions!

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a call for mass layoffs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.

I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.

Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.

It's parents like you who will make it impossible to have in-person school in times of Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some child care centers never closed during the lockdown. The YMCA has taken care of 40,000 children of essential workers since March. Guess how many coronavirus outbreaks they've had.

Zero.

From NPR:


https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/882316641/what-parents-can-learn-from-child-care-centers-that-stayed-open-during-lockdowns

This