UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have nothing but sympathy and prayers for Otto and his family. It was dumb to go to NK, but not anything deserving of what they've been through.

That said.... I do not understand why Americans are allowed to go there. We aren't allowed to go to Cuba, where by all accounts tourists will be treated just fine. Why doesn't the US place an embargo on NK just the same and just avoid the terrible (but predictable) outcomes like this.

Please tell me you are this divorced from reality. The US has a trade embargo. The US doesn't have diplomatic relations with the DPRK. You can't waltz over to its embassy in DC. Rather, you can only get a tourist visa when in China. Our government doesn't forcibly restrain its citizens from visiting and putting themselves at risk of arrest or even kidnapping and secret detention.

Surely you are not this divorced from reality.

Yes, it is complicated for Americans to go to NK. But it is NOT ILLEGAL.
Yes, pre-Obama changes Americans could skirt the law and get into Cuba (who would kindly not stamp their passport), but it WAS ILLEGAL (and still us under some circumstances)

The state dept has issued a very strongly worded Travel Warning to US Citizens against traveling to North Korea.
This is the statement about Cuba: Travel to Cuba for tourist activities remains prohibited by statute.

Different, see?

Given the gravity of what could happen to tourists in NK and the atrocities that we know about by their government, it seems that travel to NK for tourist activities should also be prohibited by statute.

Cuba is the only country in the world you can't visit. And frankly, that's just weird. Cuba is not any worse than Russia, Iran, Syria, Somalia, or a whole host of other dangerous. And, BTW, we have some diplomatic relations with Cuba now, but not NK. The US needs to get a consistent policy. Not visiting without diplomatic relations. Or can visit everywhere. But that would require Congress. So, good luck with that. In the meantime, we have State Deprtment warnings and common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

Yes, I'm sure he will be just fine with all the medical science. His brain is probably damaged. Watch Tucker Carlson tonight and you will see for yourself.

[Anonymous]

From the NYT - is that a source you idiot progressives believe?

A senior American official has said the United States obtained intelligence reports that he had been repeatedly beaten. His fate has cast new attention on how North Korea treats foreigners in captivity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

Yes, I'm sure he will be just fine with all the medical science. His brain is probably damaged. Watch Tucker Carlson tonight and you will see for yourself.

Yes, I feel very badly about Carlson's brain damage. Autoerotic asphyxiation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

Yes, I'm sure he will be just fine with all the medical science. His brain is probably damaged. Watch Tucker Carlson tonight and you will see for yourself.

Yes, I feel very badly about Carlson's brain damage. Autoerotic asphyxiation?

And this is the liberal left. Violent, nasty, ugly people.

[Anonymous]

Why are you making this a partisan issue? I am a Democrat who has no love for N Korea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you making this a partisan issue? I am a Democrat who has no love for N Korea.

Re-read this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dennis Rodman gets results. Watch Trump take credit for the release.

There is no doubt he was helpful, given his relationship with dear leader. But let's be honest....if Rodman was that influential, it would have happened almost immediately after he was captured.

State Department made a statement that Rodman has nothing to do with the release.

The boy was released within first few month of Trump's presidency after been held for more than a year under Obama presidency. Of course Trump should take a credit for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dennis Rodman gets results. Watch Trump take credit for the release.

There is no doubt he was helpful, given his relationship with dear leader. But let's be honest....if Rodman was that influential, it would have happened almost immediately after he was captured.

State Department made a statement that Rodman has nothing to do with the release.

The boy was released within first few month of Trump's presidency after been held for more than a year under Obama presidency. Of course Trump should take a credit for this.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dennis Rodman gets results. Watch Trump take credit for the release.

There is no doubt he was helpful, given his relationship with dear leader. But let's be honest....if Rodman was that influential, it would have happened almost immediately after he was captured.

State Department made a statement that Rodman has nothing to do with the release.

The boy was released within first few month of Trump's presidency after been held for more than a year under Obama presidency. Of course Trump should take a credit for this.

Sounds like the "credit" goes to whatever asshole put him in a coma and made him a liability. Poor kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

Yes, I'm sure he will be just fine with all the medical science. His brain is probably damaged. Watch Tucker Carlson tonight and you will see for yourself.

Yes, I feel very badly about Carlson's brain damage. Autoerotic asphyxiation?

And this is the liberal left. Violent, nasty, ugly people.

Good observation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Socialized medicine at its' finest, poor kid. Prayers for his family. Let's hope our American medicine and doctors can help this poor kid.

North Korea is not a socialist country, it is more like a feudalist society.

For socialist governments, look to Northern Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dennis Rodman gets results. Watch Trump take credit for the release.

There is no doubt he was helpful, given his relationship with dear leader. But let's be honest....if Rodman was that influential, it would have happened almost immediately after he was captured.

State Department made a statement that Rodman has nothing to do with the release.

The boy was released within first few month of Trump's presidency after been held for more than a year under Obama presidency. Of course Trump should take a credit for this.

And, here is what you don’t know..........

It started more than four months ago. I heard a conversation about how this happened.
Evidently, Tillerson took the issue to Trump the first 30 days of office. Trump told him to do whatever he needed to do and that he was behind him with resources needed. Tillerson worked with the Swedes. Once it was discovered that he was in a coma (and supposedly has been for a year), the Swedes arranged for a medical team to check him out. Then, US officials talked with N Korean officials in NY. They convinced them to let us air evacuation him. And, that is the story.
So, it was a win for diplomacy.
This was a priority for this administration. So, yes, Trump does get to take some credit for bringing this kid home.
If you want to hear the parents’ version, they are on Fox tonight. Tucker Carlson at 8:00.