Are DII and DIII sports a big scam to get parents to

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen kids go from a DIII hopeful prospect at sophomore year to a DI prospect by senior year. And I've seen plenty of them pick DIII over DI just because of the school.

This is baseball, by the way.

Juco and D2 ball is littered with dudes with pro tools that are rare to find in d3

Hungry dudes also - have that dawg in ‘em

There is a lot of non-D1 talent overall. NBA playoffs wise, Duncan Robinson of the Heat started his career in D3 (Williams) and Derrick White of the Celtics started his in D2 (Univ. of Colorado, Colorado Springs). Junior colleges get great athletes, many of whom have had academic issues.

With the extra year of Covid eligibility, good D3 and D2 players transferred up too. For example, in baseball, a D3 grad transfer (Swarthmore) led UMass in batting average and slugging percentage in 2022: https://umassathletics.com/sports/baseball/roster/cole-hebble/13523

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen kids go from a DIII hopeful prospect at sophomore year to a DI prospect by senior year. And I've seen plenty of them pick DIII over DI just because of the school.

This is baseball, by the way.

Interesting! Is it possible to develop at that rate in lacrosse? Better question for lax thread, I know.

It is even more common in lax since far fewer people play it and fewer of the best overall athletes play lax in the US. Kids who develop physically and athletically can shoot up recruiting boards. I see it most commonly on D position wise where a lot of the footwork and concepts are similar to the other sports these kids have played.

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There are lots of solid academic d3. And the finances vary all over the board. My daughter loved soccer and had lots of d3 soccer offers. Finances were a big concern for us. Here final decision came down to a decent academic d3 and play soccer or attend the major state university in our state and not play soccer. The private d3 school gave enough merit to make the total cost lower than in state cost at the major state school. She chose to play at the smaller school. It isn't as cut and dry as you make it out to be. The D3 athletes can actually get enough merit to make the tuition very competitive. And being on a team can be a super fun way to go through school.

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Are club sports with competitive tryouts the same as intramural sports? Even at large universities that have both?

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I was D3 all American and it always helped during job interviews, especially in the first couple of jobs, but even later it indicates a work capacity and competitiveness that does help to differentiate.

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This thread is disgusting. DCUM at its lowest. Why do people insist on denigrating kids and the choices they (and their families) make? Get a life or therapy or something else to improve your bitter, lonely life.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you do not have a child with a passion for a sport. It's absolutely part of who they are and what makes them happy. My kid is at a NESCAC school happily playing her sport on their D3 team. Had she gone Ivy or another big D1 she would only be on their club team, and it was important to her to play on the school team. There are many great reasons to go D3. My kid is happy and playing the sport she loves. And her school is great, just not a "top school".

Is your child passionate about the sport in general or passionate about playing on the school team, specifically?

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What happens after the 4 yrs of college? At some point, the sports stop. Or they end up playing for the local adult rec league which seems to the same as intramurals. Sports maybe a part of who they are and what makes them happy, but for most kids, sports have to end sometime.

I've seen three outcomes: a) they get real fat; b) become crossfit drones; or c) drop out of college and enlist in military.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/02/17/athletes-are-more-likely-be-find-employment-be-engaged-work-study-suggests

Rich parents have rich kids. More news at 11.

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Go one telling yourself that athletes don’t get anything from D3 schools. We get it- your kid is not athletic and college prospects are weak so you are trying to knock others down

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Anonymous wrote:I have a teenager. So far my teenager shows no interest in doing physical activity outside of sports. My teenager is a middling player. Good enough to play in HS, but we have no expectations of DC being a high level college athlete. When DC has been unable to play due to illness or injury, it has been horrible for DC and us. DC loves playing, and DC needs the physical outlet. Will we pay some extra for DC to keep playing in college? Absolutely. Healthy mind, healthy body. It won't be for prestige or bragging rights or anything except understanding how important athletics are to our particular child and wanting to support DC. If DC figures out how to get enjoyment from physical activity that's not sports-team-related, that's great too. But just as we might pay extra so our DC could go to a college with a great arts opportunities, we're willing to pay extra so our DC can continue playing sports at a level DC enjoys.

Why pay extra when they can play at just about any university's intramural team and get the same social-emotional benefits?

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Anonymous wrote:Almost nobody at the no name D3's as you call them is paying full cost. They may not give sports scholarships, but they give plenty of "merit" money.

Okay, so instead of $30K-65K you're talking $20K-55K ... so your child can pretend to be an accomplished athlete?

and get a bachelor's degree.

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I would much rather my child play D3 than D1, regardless of scholarship money offered. Better lifestyle, they can focus more on academics without the high stakes sports pressure and they can still enjoy playing their sport on a collegiate level with their teammates. We can afford full play anywhere, so I’m not seeing a downside to D3

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Anonymous wrote:I have a teenager. So far my teenager shows no interest in doing physical activity outside of sports. My teenager is a middling player. Good enough to play in HS, but we have no expectations of DC being a high level college athlete. When DC has been unable to play due to illness or injury, it has been horrible for DC and us. DC loves playing, and DC needs the physical outlet. Will we pay some extra for DC to keep playing in college? Absolutely. Healthy mind, healthy body. It won't be for prestige or bragging rights or anything except understanding how important athletics are to our particular child and wanting to support DC. If DC figures out how to get enjoyment from physical activity that's not sports-team-related, that's great too. But just as we might pay extra so our DC could go to a college with a great arts opportunities, we're willing to pay extra so our DC can continue playing sports at a level DC enjoys.

Why pay extra when they can play at just about any university's intramural team and get the same social-emotional benefits?

They aren’t remotely equivalent.

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No, small schools do not have sports only to lure dumb parents to their schools.

I started a new sport at my small college because it gave me fun, exercise, a community, and the competitive environment I was used to from high school. The sport had zero to do with my reason for choosing the school, but was a huge part of my college life.

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Anonymous wrote:Are club sports with competitive tryouts the same as intramural sports? Even at large universities that have both?

Of course not. Most kids who play only intramurals can't make a competitive club team. When she was a freshman my DD's club team took only 2 out of 45 kids who tried out for the team.

Other differences are that club teams travel several hours several weekends during the season to play other universities club teams.

And there are also regional and national championship tournaments for most club team which of course don't exist at the intramural level.