MERLD does exist!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people on this thread have collectively become unhinged.

Agreed. I am not getting the point.

One person here angered a lot of other people by claiming that her child has the unique perfect disability -- it is the only one that disappears completely by a certain age and is completely unrelated to any other problem while all other special needs children are "nightmares," who will have problems for the rest of their lives. She apparently has a history of doing this, so it is an ongoing battle. It is probably not worth it to argue with this person, but when you raise strong feelings about people's children, they will fight back. It's also not worth it to participate in this thread if you are not already angry.

No, that wasn't what the thread was about. That came much later after the one poster derailed the topic with her claims MERLD is similar or is really ASD and completely dismisses anything MERLD related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people on this thread have collectively become unhinged.

Agreed. I am not getting the point.

One person here angered a lot of other people by claiming that her child has the unique perfect disability -- it is the only one that disappears completely by a certain age and is completely unrelated to any other problem while all other special needs children are "nightmares," who will have problems for the rest of their lives. She apparently has a history of doing this, so it is an ongoing battle. It is probably not worth it to argue with this person, but when you raise strong feelings about people's children, they will fight back. It's also not worth it to participate in this thread if you are not already angry.

No, that wasn't what the thread was about. That came much later after the one poster derailed the topic with her claims MERLD is similar or is really ASD and completely dismisses anything MERLD related.

Nope, it is that you have misunderstood what people have been telling you, you have been presented with evidence that you have ignored or misinterpreted, you have insulted people, and you do not realize you have done these things. That is why it is the Dunning-Kruger effect. That's when you are so far from the truth that you don't even realize how far away you really are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people on this thread have collectively become unhinged.

Agreed. I am not getting the point.

One person here angered a lot of other people by claiming that her child has the unique perfect disability -- it is the only one that disappears completely by a certain age and is completely unrelated to any other problem while all other special needs children are "nightmares," who will have problems for the rest of their lives. She apparently has a history of doing this, so it is an ongoing battle. It is probably not worth it to argue with this person, but when you raise strong feelings about people's children, they will fight back. It's also not worth it to participate in this thread if you are not already angry.

No, that wasn't what the thread was about. That came much later after the one poster derailed the topic with her claims MERLD is similar or is really ASD and completely dismisses anything MERLD related.

Nope, it is that you have misunderstood what people have been telling you, you have been presented with evidence that you have ignored or misinterpreted, you have insulted people, and you do not realize you have done these things. That is why it is the Dunning-Kruger effect. That's when you are so far from the truth that you don't even realize how far away you really are.

Its the truth as you see it. No one in the language disorder world would agree with your assessments, which you clearly do not understand as well.

[Anonymous]

There are distinct similarities between brain structure in ASD and brain structure in developmental language disorders:

http://www.cvip.uofl.edu/wwwcvip/research/medical/mDyslexia/Dyslexia/herbert2004localization.pdf

[Anonymous]

There are distinct similarities between observed behaviors and symptoms in patients with language impairment and patients with ASD:

https://www.bu.edu/autism/files/2010/03/Leyfer-et-al-AR-20081.pdf

[Anonymous]

Both ASDs and language disorders may be related to a mutation on chromosome 7:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000292970762638X

[Anonymous]

I'm so confused by this whole thing. Who gives a flying f7ck? What's the point? Therapies will be adjusted to meet your child's need, diagnosis is an art. Seek out good professionals to work with. None of us know the prognosis for any of this stuff. But all of it is neurological. Maybe some are lightly impacted like asbergers and mild ADHD. Some of us got a more severe hit. It's clearly all brain related, and ahat we should be pushing for is actual knowledge re the brain and how it works so that actual treatments can be found. It's like the fever effect - we know the crazy impact of that and why hasn't it been expounded upon and utilized yet? All of this is just a side show. Stop prattling on about it, Merld lady. The plural of anecdotes is not data and you are rude, insulting, condescending and unpleasant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused by this whole thing. Who gives a flying f7ck? What's the point? Therapies will be adjusted to meet your child's need, diagnosis is an art. Seek out good professionals to work with. None of us know the prognosis for any of this stuff. But all of it is neurological. Maybe some are lightly impacted like asbergers and mild ADHD. Some of us got a more severe hit. It's clearly all brain related, and ahat we should be pushing for is actual knowledge re the brain and how it works so that actual treatments can be found. It's like the fever effect - we know the crazy impact of that and why hasn't it been expounded upon and utilized yet? All of this is just a side show. Stop prattling on about it, Merld lady. The plural of anecdotes is not data and you are rude, insulting, condescending and unpleasant.

There are many MERLD parents here. And the best thing that ever happened for my kid was understanding that he had MERLD and not autism. It makes a huge impact on therspies to know what you are dealing with.

It is the autism parents who gang up on us who are rude and condescending. You cannot even start a MERLD success story thread without the ASD parents swooping in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused by this whole thing. Who gives a flying f7ck? What's the point? Therapies will be adjusted to meet your child's need, diagnosis is an art. Seek out good professionals to work with. None of us know the prognosis for any of this stuff. But all of it is neurological. Maybe some are lightly impacted like asbergers and mild ADHD. Some of us got a more severe hit. It's clearly all brain related, and ahat we should be pushing for is actual knowledge re the brain and how it works so that actual treatments can be found. It's like the fever effect - we know the crazy impact of that and why hasn't it been expounded upon and utilized yet? All of this is just a side show. Stop prattling on about it, Merld lady. The plural of anecdotes is not data and you are rude, insulting, condescending and unpleasant.

There are many MERLD parents here. And the best thing that ever happened for my kid was understanding that he had MERLD and not autism. It makes a huge impact on therspies to know what you are dealing with.

It is the autism parents who gang up on us who are rude and condescending. You cannot even start a MERLD success story thread without the ASD parents swooping in.

And, with the autism parents name calling and being derogatory because we do not agree our kids have autism like theirs and all therapies are the same, which they are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both ASDs and language disorders may be related to a mutation on chromosome 7:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000292970762638X

This is for kids who have more severe autism and language impairment. You can have autism and a language disorder. You can have a language disorder and not have autism. We did a lot of genetic testing on our child. Nothing came up.

[Anonymous]

Both of the studies posted are arcane and old. My MERLD child's head was not oversized at any point. And the gene story is very out of date. They might indeed discover that mutations are located in the same area. It still does not mean the conditions are the same..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both of the studies posted are arcane and old. My MERLD child's head was not oversized at any point. And the gene story is very out of date. They might indeed discover that mutations are located in the same area. It still does not mean the conditions are the same..

Can you read?

[Anonymous]

The genes article is the lead article in a series of articles that confirms the genetic link. More recent research confirming the link:

http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/news-room-articles/scientist-identify-genetic-link-between-language-impairment-and-autism?contentid=121520

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The genes article is the lead article in a series of articles that confirms the genetic link. More recent research confirming the link:

http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/news-room-articles/scientist-identify-genetic-link-between-language-impairment-and-autism?contentid=121520

Oh boy. That article is so far from saying that autism and MERLD are the same that I don't even know how to respond. First of all, it makes clear that there is a wide range of language abilities in autism and they are not sure why. Second, even if there is a genetic "link," that says nothing about clinical diagnostic categories and evidence-based therapies that work for each disorder. So for instance it provides no insight whatsoever into one of the questions on this thread - how pragmatic language deficits are the same or different in MERLD and ASD. It also says nothing at all about prognosis and the assertion that some MERLD kids "catch up" while kids with ASD do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The genes article is the lead article in a series of articles that confirms the genetic link. More recent research confirming the link:

http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/news-room-articles/scientist-identify-genetic-link-between-language-impairment-and-autism?contentid=121520

Oh boy. That article is so far from saying that autism and MERLD are the same that I don't even know how to respond. First of all, it makes clear that there is a wide range of language abilities in autism and they are not sure why. Second, even if there is a genetic "link," that says nothing about clinical diagnostic categories and evidence-based therapies that work for each disorder. So for instance it provides no insight whatsoever into one of the questions on this thread - how pragmatic language deficits are the same or different in MERLD and ASD. It also says nothing at all about prognosis and the assertion that some MERLD kids "catch up" while kids with ASD do not.

It wasn't offered for any of those points. It was offered to refute your point that MERLD and ASD are completely unrelated disorders. Clearly, they are not unrelated.