Open house impressions thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately what all your logic boils down to is, "I don't want poor children who might be disruptive coming to my child's public charter school, and anything I can do to stop this I will."

Coming from a public charter school that has kids coming in at all grades and seeing how great they all are, I find your continued whining about poor children attending your precious charter to be depressing.

Riiight. Because somehow all the "poor children" are weeded out during the random lottery and you're alleging we want to keep it that way makes perfect sense. I also hope the kids at your public charter are learning better reading comprehension than you, since none of the above posts are generalized to all charters and only talk about charters where kids joining in later grades would have seriously challenging levels of catch up to do (mainly with bi-lingual schools). One post even says that charters that already do accept kids at later grades and still succeed should keep doing it. I've spent time at E.L. Haynes and Two Rivers and they are fantastic schools.

Or maybe you like setting up the very kids you're unconvincingly concerned about to fail by having them enter these bi-lingual schools in 4th grade and get lost immediately? Which, by the way applies to all kids entering in later grades, not just the "poor children" as you like to say.

DCPS bilingual schools have to take children at all grades regardless of language ability. Why should charters be exempted from this? You have never explained why this double standard should be allowed to continue.

If that is the only difference you're aware of between DCPS and charters and their admissions rules/requirements, it's not even worth wasting typing energy to explain this part to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately what all your logic boils down to is, "I don't want poor children who might be disruptive coming to my child's public charter school, and anything I can do to stop this I will."

Coming from a public charter school that has kids coming in at all grades and seeing how great they all are, I find your continued whining about poor children attending your precious charter to be depressing.

Riiight. Because somehow all the "poor children" are weeded out during the random lottery and you're alleging we want to keep it that way makes perfect sense. I also hope the kids at your public charter are learning better reading comprehension than you, since none of the above posts are generalized to all charters and only talk about charters where kids joining in later grades would have seriously challenging levels of catch up to do (mainly with bi-lingual schools). One post even says that charters that already do accept kids at later grades and still succeed should keep doing it. I've spent time at E.L. Haynes and Two Rivers and they are fantastic schools.

Or maybe you like setting up the very kids you're unconvincingly concerned about to fail by having them enter these bi-lingual schools in 4th grade and get lost immediately? Which, by the way applies to all kids entering in later grades, not just the "poor children" as you like to say.

DCPS bilingual schools have to take children at all grades regardless of language ability. Why should charters be exempted from this? You have never explained why this double standard should be allowed to continue.

If that is the only difference you're aware of between DCPS and charters and their admissions rules/requirements, it's not even worth wasting typing energy to explain this part to you. Meanwhile, how about I'll answer this question after you come up with answers to the problems your "mandates" would create, which you never answered above? You started this thread of the conversation, so answer the parts you've raised first, then I'm happy to answer questions you should already know the answers to, if you're so knowledgable about all of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately what all your logic boils down to is, "I don't want poor children who might be disruptive coming to my child's public charter school, and anything I can do to stop this I will."

Coming from a public charter school that has kids coming in at all grades and seeing how great they all are, I find your continued whining about poor children attending your precious charter to be depressing.

Riiight. Because somehow all the "poor children" are weeded out during the random lottery and you're alleging we want to keep it that way makes perfect sense. I also hope the kids at your public charter are learning better reading comprehension than you, since none of the above posts are generalized to all charters and only talk about charters where kids joining in later grades would have seriously challenging levels of catch up to do (mainly with bi-lingual schools). One post even says that charters that already do accept kids at later grades and still succeed should keep doing it. I've spent time at E.L. Haynes and Two Rivers and they are fantastic schools.

Or maybe you like setting up the very kids you're unconvincingly concerned about to fail by having them enter these bi-lingual schools in 4th grade and get lost immediately? Which, by the way applies to all kids entering in later grades, not just the "poor children" as you like to say.

DCPS bilingual schools have to take children at all grades regardless of language ability. Why should charters be exempted from this? You have never explained why this double standard should be allowed to continue.

DCPS gets more money per student than charter schools, you have never explained why this double standard should be allowed to continue.

NP here, but that has been explained thousands of times on this forum.

Not the PP you're responding to, but I'm newer to DCUM, do tell, what is the answer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are other DC Charter schools that do not admit at every grade - BASIS, some KIPP schools, DC Prep, etc. I'd like to see an analysis of admission entry years correlated with test scores/ charter school tiers. My guess is that it's a lot easier to get Tier 1 status/better test scores if you have some degree of control over your testing population...

True. And at some point it becomes a matter of ensuring that students can actually meet graduation requirements.

Banneker, McKinley, Ellington and SWW don't accept at every grade either -- which would seem to prove your thesis.

Please, don't confuse the "Charters should throw their models out and do what I say" poster with real, actual facts. S/he doesn't want to look at how things really are, only how she wants them to be in her strange little world.

[Anonymous]

Let’s try it this way.

Ingenuity Prep, Walker-Jones, Langley, Achievement Prep, AppleTree SW, Janney AppleTree SE, AppleTree CH, Friendship Armstrong, KIPP NE, KIPP Connect, KIPP Spring, DCI, Jefferson Middle, Lee Montessori, KIPP Will, Burroughs, KIPP Grow, KIPP Lead, Children’s Guild, Thomson, Marie Reed, Center City Petworth, Friendship SE, Roosevelt High, Watkins, Cap City, Hope Tolson, Bruce-Monroe, J.O. Wilson, Ludlow-Taylor, Seaton, Rocketship, and Friendship Woodridge all had open houses this week.

Did you go? How were they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately what all your logic boils down to is, "I don't want poor children who might be disruptive coming to my child's public charter school, and anything I can do to stop this I will."

Coming from a public charter school that has kids coming in at all grades and seeing how great they all are, I find your continued whining about poor children attending your precious charter to be depressing.

Riiight. Because somehow all the "poor children" are weeded out during the random lottery and you're alleging we want to keep it that way makes perfect sense. I also hope the kids at your public charter are learning better reading comprehension than you, since none of the above posts are generalized to all charters and only talk about charters where kids joining in later grades would have seriously challenging levels of catch up to do (mainly with bi-lingual schools). One post even says that charters that already do accept kids at later grades and still succeed should keep doing it. I've spent time at E.L. Haynes and Two Rivers and they are fantastic schools.

Or maybe you like setting up the very kids you're unconvincingly concerned about to fail by having them enter these bi-lingual schools in 4th grade and get lost immediately? Which, by the way applies to all kids entering in later grades, not just the "poor children" as you like to say.

DCPS bilingual schools have to take children at all grades regardless of language ability. Why should charters be exempted from this? You have never explained why this double standard should be allowed to continue.

Only Lamb and YY do not take students at every grade: Lamb bc of their Montessori model and YY due to the Mandarin. YY a few yrs ago asked the charter board if they can test in students into the higher grades but was denied so YY will only take new students up to second grade.

Every other immersion language charter takes new students at every grade if there is room.

This is absolutely correct. But apparently the most vocal person questioning this has no interest in how it actually works. Or even that some schools like YY have tried to add to upper grades by being able to test proficiency. Reality is less fun for some than being bitter and critical in Fantasyland it seems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s try it this way.

Ingenuity Prep, Walker-Jones, Langley, Achievement Prep, AppleTree SW, Janney AppleTree SE, AppleTree CH, Friendship Armstrong, KIPP NE, KIPP Connect, KIPP Spring, DCI, Jefferson Middle, Lee Montessori, KIPP Will, Burroughs, KIPP Grow, KIPP Lead, Children’s Guild, Thomson, Marie Reed, Center City Petworth, Friendship SE, Roosevelt High, Watkins, Cap City, Hope Tolson, Bruce-Monroe, J.O. Wilson, Ludlow-Taylor, Seaton, Rocketship, and Friendship Woodridge all had open houses this week.

Did you go? How were they?

I'm gonna help you out and start another thread. This once, Jeff may actually allow 2 threads since this one has gone in a very different direction.