Why don't out of boundary parents work on their own schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Real life parent here. I'm OB! Proudly pay my real estate taxes for more than one parcel of real estate in DC, proudly pay for your kid (especially those of you living in apartments or renting houses in ward 2 and 3), and proudly took advantage of a better public school education in Ward 3 (also volunteered as a parent). No thank you necessary, all paid for.


Wow, the trolleration continues. You do realize that renters pay real estate taxes, right? It's not like building owners just pay real estate taxes on behalf of their renters out of benevolence. The real estate taxes are included in the rent and paid out of rental income. I haven't entered this thread because it is ridiculous, but come on.


B.S! Show me where you can deduct real estate taxe on your income taxes! You pay rent! The landlord pays real estate taxes! You live in an apartment you squat and move! Buy a condo, then you have a say!


That's a really good point. It's much like when I go to a restaurant, and there is a 10% tax (in DC, at least) added on to the bill. But since I pay that to the restaurant, and they then batch all of that up and send it to the DC government, I don't pay any meals tax, the restaurant does.

Look, this isn't the place for this, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That's been obvious since the beginning of this thread, but it's a little bit more clear.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Real life parent here. I'm OB! Proudly pay my real estate taxes for more than one parcel of real estate in DC, proudly pay for your kid (especially those of you living in apartments or renting houses in ward 2 and 3), and proudly took advantage of a better public school education in Ward 3 (also volunteered as a parent). No thank you necessary, all paid for.


Wow, the trolleration continues. You do realize that renters pay real estate taxes, right? It's not like building owners just pay real estate taxes on behalf of their renters out of benevolence. The real estate taxes are included in the rent and paid out of rental income. I haven't entered this thread because it is ridiculous, but come on.


B.S! Show me where you can deduct real estate taxe on your income taxes! You pay rent! The landlord pays real estate taxes! You live in an apartment you squat and move! Buy a condo, then you have a say!


Now renting is equivalent to squatting?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
B.S! Show me where you can deduct real estate taxe on your income taxes! You pay rent! The landlord pays real estate taxes! You live in an apartment you squat and move! Buy a condo, then you have a say!


That's a really good point. It's much like when I go to a restaurant, and there is a 10% tax (in DC, at least) added on to the bill. But since I pay that to the restaurant, and they then batch all of that up and send it to the DC government, I don't pay any meals tax, the restaurant does.

Look, this isn't the place for this, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That's been obvious since the beginning of this thread, but it's a little bit more clear.



Oh, and DC doesn't do this, but some states do. Minnesota, for example.

http://www.revenue.state.mn.us/individuals/prop_tax_refund/Pages/Renters_Property_Tax_Refund.aspx

"For purposes of the renters refund, 17 percent of the rent you paid in 2014 is considered to be for property tax."
Anonymous
DC does do that, it's schedule H. Renters qualify. I think 15% of rent is the calculation here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC does do that, it's schedule H. Renters qualify. I think 15% of rent is the calculation here.


Right you are. Here is the language:

rent constituting property taxes” in the case of renters.


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Anonymous wrote:well said OP well said, some will do amazing things to make changes others will quit and go the path of least resistance. I am with you,. improve your own school or be able to afford to live in the area where you want your kid to go to school.

Ha! If kids hadn't gone OOB to the schools dd attended wotp, those schools would have shut down. Those schools needed kids like my dd and they still do today.


Ha! And, if the WOTP families fled in the 80s and 90s then the tax base would have collapsed and the city would have gone bankrupt. So, it's kind of a wash. Don't you think?
No connection at all there. But keep trying.


No connection between real estate taxes and city services (e.g. the "schools")? If you don't think so, you should go to Detroit sometime.
Anonymous
I can't believe so many people responded to this shitty post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe so many people responded to this shitty post.


I know, I feel kind of bad for responding a couple of times myself. It is really such perfect trolling. I know the proper response is to not feed the troll, but it was very well done, so hard to resist.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe so many people responded to this shitty post.


I know, I feel kind of bad for responding a couple of times myself. It is really such perfect trolling. I know the proper response is to not feed the troll, but it was very well done, so hard to resist.


I agree and also think that some subsequent posters were trolls. Will no longer check this thread.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe so many people responded to this shitty post.


I know, I feel kind of bad for responding a couple of times myself. It is really such perfect trolling. I know the proper response is to not feed the troll, but it was very well done, so hard to resist.


Agreed. This one made me extremely angry though. Good job OP -
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:well said OP well said, some will do amazing things to make changes others will quit and go the path of least resistance. I am with you,. improve your own school or be able to afford to live in the area where you want your kid to go to school.



+1
Anonymous
To answer OP's original question---there is absolutely nothing I can do that would improve my IB ES---the needs of the high numbers of poverty-stricken children are overwhelming.

The only way that EOTP schools get "buy-in" from the portion of its otherwise IB parents who use charter or OOB placement is when the demographics of the neighborhood become such that the neighborhood ES (or MS, in the case of Deal) is less than 40% FARMs. At that point the middle class parents will step up and invest in the school en masse. See, e.g., Ross or Brent. Otherwise, if the demographic tide is against them (see Bancroft or HD Cooke), then there will be a small, revolving cohort of middle class parents who try to make things better, but who eventually give up and leave.

It's the poverty, stupid.
Anonymous
That property tax poster really shook you renters up! You guys started researching the laws to make sure you are legit in your IB covets. Hilarious! What funny yet ridiculous reading!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's original question---there is absolutely nothing I can do that would improve my IB ES---the needs of the high numbers of poverty-stricken children are overwhelming.

The only way that EOTP schools get "buy-in" from the portion of its otherwise IB parents who use charter or OOB placement is when the demographics of the neighborhood become such that the neighborhood ES (or MS, in the case of Deal) is less than 40% FARMs. At that point the middle class parents will step up and invest in the school en masse. See, e.g., Ross or Brent. Otherwise, if the demographic tide is against them (see Bancroft or HD Cooke), then there will be a small, revolving cohort of middle class parents who try to make things better, but who eventually give up and leave.

It's the poverty, stupid.


Should I inform the higher SES people in middle elementary grades at my ~60% FARMS school that they were supposed to leave a few years ago?
Anonymous
Please do!
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