Disney primarily for the wealthy? NYT Article

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You're only allowed to do this once or twice a day for Individual Lightning Lane and each park only 1 or 2 at each park otherwise you buy the Multi-pass which covers all the other rides. So, no, it's not $30 extra per person per ride all day long. Why misinform like this?

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You don’t pay $30 per ride. You pay $30 for a day-long pass that allows you to make reservations on rides all day (and select a few in advance of your trip). Some rides also have “individual lightning lane” on a per-ride basis but those are only the most popular rides: Tron, 7 Dwarves, Rise of the Resistance, Guardians, and Avatar.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You don’t pay $30 per ride. You pay $30 for a day-long pass that allows you to make reservations on rides all day (and select a few in advance of your trip). Some rides also have “individual lightning lane” on a per-ride basis but those are only the most popular rides: Tron, 7 Dwarves, Rise of the Resistance, Guardians, and Avatar.

... in your mind how is this possibly better. $30/day per person doesn't get you on the most popular rides, you have to pay $10-20 on top to ride each of those rides because getting in otherwise is difficult?

And I'd you think about it now Disney has a significant financial incentive to create long lines so you must pay those extras.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You don’t pay $30 per ride. You pay $30 for a day-long pass that allows you to make reservations on rides all day (and select a few in advance of your trip). Some rides also have “individual lightning lane” on a per-ride basis but those are only the most popular rides: Tron, 7 Dwarves, Rise of the Resistance, Guardians, and Avatar.

... in your mind how is this possibly better. $30/day per person doesn't get you on the most popular rides, you have to pay $10-20 on top to ride each of those rides because getting in otherwise is difficult?

And I'd you think about it now Disney has a significant financial incentive to create long lines so you must pay those extras.

You can always just hang in the line for 45 minutes and eat a snack. If you plan your day right you don't have to wait in long lines. But better be able to hoof it there when the park opens or stay till park close. Where there's a will there's a way. Other people just throw money at it.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You don’t pay $30 per ride. You pay $30 for a day-long pass that allows you to make reservations on rides all day (and select a few in advance of your trip). Some rides also have “individual lightning lane” on a per-ride basis but those are only the most popular rides: Tron, 7 Dwarves, Rise of the Resistance, Guardians, and Avatar.

... in your mind how is this possibly better. $30/day per person doesn't get you on the most popular rides, you have to pay $10-20 on top to ride each of those rides because getting in otherwise is difficult?

And I'd you think about it now Disney has a significant financial incentive to create long lines so you must pay those extras.

so you want Disney to ensure shorter lines … how? By making tickets more expensive? By reducing their revenue and capping attendance?

It’s all about your priorities. if you want to wait 1.5 hr for Avatar instead of paying $30 that is your choice.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

Your beer will cost $20. Add up the family food and see what you get. Then ask your kids if it was the best day ever watching from the nosebleeds or bleachers with sun in their face the whole time.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

But you have to pay $300 to get near the dugout and beer is $20! So unfair!

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

Your beer will cost $20. Add up the family food and see what you get. Then ask your kids if it was the best day ever watching from the nosebleeds or bleachers with sun in their face the whole time.

This. You are not getting out of Nats park with a family of 4 for less than $250 assuming you park.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

+1 And it's slightly higher for the most popular rides I believe. I remember it was 34$/person to cut the line at Rise of the Resistance (which had a 100+ minute wait). Multiply that cost for one ride times 4 and the whole family can go to Six Flags for the day.

You don’t pay $30 per ride. You pay $30 for a day-long pass that allows you to make reservations on rides all day (and select a few in advance of your trip). Some rides also have “individual lightning lane” on a per-ride basis but those are only the most popular rides: Tron, 7 Dwarves, Rise of the Resistance, Guardians, and Avatar.

... in your mind how is this possibly better. $30/day per person doesn't get you on the most popular rides, you have to pay $10-20 on top to ride each of those rides because getting in otherwise is difficult?

And I'd you think about it now Disney has a significant financial incentive to create long lines so you must pay those extras.

so you want Disney to ensure shorter lines … how? By making tickets more expensive? By reducing their revenue and capping attendance?

It’s all about your priorities. if you want to wait 1.5 hr for Avatar instead of paying $30 that is your choice.

I want to be clear: I used to work at the parks. And we gave fast passes and pins and all that for free and tickets have gone up way more than the price if inflation. And the employees aren't getting the money, I know because I still have friends who work there.

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

Your beer will cost $20. Add up the family food and see what you get. Then ask your kids if it was the best day ever watching from the nosebleeds or bleachers with sun in their face the whole time.

This. You are not getting out of Nats park with a family of 4 for less than $250 assuming you park.

I've taken my kids multiple times and never come close to that. What on earth are you buying?

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Anonymous wrote:We will never do Disney. If it was expensive, but the experience was enjoyable I would consider it. But the fact that it costs thousands AND you still have to wait an hour+ per ride? No way. Waiting in line is something I absolutely hate. There's no way I'm PAYING to spend my vacation waiting in line.

Lightening lane is pretty affordable. It’s like $30 pp per day. I never wait for more than 30 minutes for a ride, and with LL it’s under 10.

$30 per ride per person per day. That's not affordable.

Not per ride. per day per person.

It doesn't cover all rides, though and they sell separate passes for the most popular rides.

That to me is just the epitome of it. You pay extra and then you still have to pay extra on top of it. Gimme more money for stuff that used to be free. Your park ticket is also more.

The way I look it at is it might be $150 for a ticket but you can go for 10, 12, or more hours depending on how long it's open. That's like $15 an hour for a full day of entertainment. Now try taking your family to a 3 hour baseball game or even a movie and see if you get the same bang for your buck hour by hour.

Uh... injust priced the Nats game on Friday and I can get $23 tickets. And then won't make me pay additional money if I want to actually watch the game. And I can metro there so I don't have to pay for parking. And my hot dog isn't going to cost $20?

Your beer will cost $20. Add up the family food and see what you get. Then ask your kids if it was the best day ever watching from the nosebleeds or bleachers with sun in their face the whole time.

This. You are not getting out of Nats park with a family of 4 for less than $250 assuming you park.

I've taken my kids multiple times and never come close to that. What on earth are you buying?

Are your kids super into baseball? Mine go for the snacks but they aren't really into the game and given a choice would always pick an amusement park. Disney offers a lot and you can stay a full day and not do it all. Baseball games are expensive and not nearly as interesting for kids.

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Disney costs a lot of money. That is different from being “for the wealthy.”

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One thing about Disney that is very appealing is that you can make payments on the trip and cancel if you need to without penalty.