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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives should support a return to the spoils system. The fed workforce is so far to the left that Trump can cut to the bone without hurting his supporters.

The fed workers were supposed to be neutral, but they couldn't help themselves. I hope they fire 90% of them.


Well the federal workforce is by and large more educated than the general public and we know there is a correlation between lack of education and voting R. So this tracks.


Stop taking this personally. This government is too GD big. Too many moving parts. Too much inefficiency.

Some cutbacks are necessary.


Yes, some cutbacks are necessary. Having a couple billionaires who have a personal vendetta against Feds oversee it as a pet project is not the way.


So what is the way?


Get someone who wonโ€™t potentially have financial gain from destroying the federal workforce to do it.


Who will actually have the wherewithal, motivation and incentive to get the job done? McKinsey and the like have been at it for years, but they have a financial incentive in a bloated government so they can keep winning jobs and contracts. Feds have a financial incentive in bloat so they can keep cashing in for little to no output. Financial incentive are already everywhere baked into the system, maybe a little self interest for these guys might not be the worst thing in the world.


Huh? What financial incentives do feds have in bloat? They personally make no more money if government grows versus if it shrinks.
Government doesn't work the way business does. GS scales are fixed, there is not much of any genuinely meaningful added financial benefit to be had if you manage 7 people versus managing 700 people. It also doesn't make much of a personal financial difference if a fed manages a $50,000 budget versus a $5 million budget. The only difference will be that austerity will make it harder for them to do their work.


Are you serious right now? It's called job security and fringe benefits.


Are YOU serious right now? Most private sector contractors and others are making more money than feds are.
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Most of the bloat, waste, and do-nothing employees are in DoD.

Musk and Ramaswamy should start there if they want to show some results.
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Elon is an engineer. They see problems right away.

They have little use for ego and politics. They just want to fix things. It's a good thing.
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Anonymous wrote:Elon is an engineer. They see problems right away.

They have little use for ego and politics. They just want to fix things. It's a good thing.


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I honestly canโ€™t tell if people actually believe this or are just A+ trollers. I thought Trump was the biggest crybaby in the world, but now itโ€™s a toss up between him and Musk.
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Anonymous wrote:Elon is an engineer. They see problems right away.

They have little use for ego and politics. They just want to fix things. It's a good thing.


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I honestly canโ€™t tell if people actually believe this or are just A+ trollers. I thought Trump was the biggest crybaby in the world, but now itโ€™s a toss up between him and Musk.


NP. I had the same reaction!! Thanks, first PP, I needed a good laugh.
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Sacred cows are about to be slaughtered.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the bloat, waste, and do-nothing employees are in DoD.

Musk and Ramaswamy should start there if they want to show some results.


+1000
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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives should support a return to the spoils system. The fed workforce is so far to the left that Trump can cut to the bone without hurting his supporters.

The fed workers were supposed to be neutral, but they couldn't help themselves. I hope they fire 90% of them.


Well the federal workforce is by and large more educated than the general public and we know there is a correlation between lack of education and voting R. So this tracks.


Stop taking this personally. This government is too GD big. Too many moving parts. Too much inefficiency.

Some cutbacks are necessary.


Yes, some cutbacks are necessary. Having a couple billionaires who have a personal vendetta against Feds oversee it as a pet project is not the way.


So what is the way?


Get someone who wonโ€™t potentially have financial gain from destroying the federal workforce to do it.


Who will actually have the wherewithal, motivation and incentive to get the job done? McKinsey and the like have been at it for years, but they have a financial incentive in a bloated government so they can keep winning jobs and contracts. Feds have a financial incentive in bloat so they can keep cashing in for little to no output. Financial incentive are already everywhere baked into the system, maybe a little self interest for these guys might not be the worst thing in the world.


Huh? What financial incentives do feds have in bloat? They personally make no more money if government grows versus if it shrinks.
Government doesn't work the way business does. GS scales are fixed, there is not much of any genuinely meaningful added financial benefit to be had if you manage 7 people versus managing 700 people. It also doesn't make much of a personal financial difference if a fed manages a $50,000 budget versus a $5 million budget. The only difference will be that austerity will make it harder for them to do their work.


Are you serious right now? It's called job security and fringe benefits.


Are YOU serious right now? Most private sector contractors and others are making more money than feds are.


And guess what? If they mess up or don't perform, they get FIRED.
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If we're really concerned about the debt, we'll need to cut social security and raise taxes significantly. Go for it, Musk!
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Anonymous wrote:Ok heโ€™s creating a new department. Doesnโ€™t seem like cutting federal jobs to me.


This is how you do it!

1. Create another governmental agency doing just what a different one did previously
2. Hire more people for it
3. [Black Box]
4. Profit! No -
5. I mean, efficiency! Less government!


massive wealth transfer from poor people who voted for trump, to our oligarch class.
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Anonymous wrote:If we're really concerned about the debt, we'll need to cut social security and raise taxes significantly. Go for it, Musk!


I think we need a national conversation about the debt and fiscal problems. Put up all the numbers and where the trouble is, just like Ross Perot did.

If it gets no traction, it gets no traction. But at least put it front and center. This really is our future on the line. The math says so.
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Ahahahahaha


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we're really concerned about the debt, we'll need to cut social security and raise taxes significantly. Go for it, Musk!


I think we need a national conversation about the debt and fiscal problems. Put up all the numbers and where the trouble is, just like Ross Perot did.

If it gets no traction, it gets no traction. But at least put it front and center. This really is our future on the line. The math says so.


Theyโ€™re about to spend a lot of money on mobilization of national guard for mass deportations. I think thereโ€™s also supposed to be more tax cuts?? No one cares about the deficit or the debt except when Democrats are in power. Then Republicans pretend to care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conservatives should support a return to the spoils system. The fed workforce is so far to the left that Trump can cut to the bone without hurting his supporters.

The fed workers were supposed to be neutral, but they couldn't help themselves. I hope they fire 90% of them.


Well the federal workforce is by and large more educated than the general public and we know there is a correlation between lack of education and voting R. So this tracks.


Stop taking this personally. This government is too GD big. Too many moving parts. Too much inefficiency.

Some cutbacks are necessary.


Yes, some cutbacks are necessary. Having a couple billionaires who have a personal vendetta against Feds oversee it as a pet project is not the way.


So what is the way?


Get someone who wonโ€™t potentially have financial gain from destroying the federal workforce to do it.


Who will actually have the wherewithal, motivation and incentive to get the job done? McKinsey and the like have been at it for years, but they have a financial incentive in a bloated government so they can keep winning jobs and contracts. Feds have a financial incentive in bloat so they can keep cashing in for little to no output. Financial incentive are already everywhere baked into the system, maybe a little self interest for these guys might not be the worst thing in the world.


Huh? What financial incentives do feds have in bloat? They personally make no more money if government grows versus if it shrinks.
Government doesn't work the way business does. GS scales are fixed, there is not much of any genuinely meaningful added financial benefit to be had if you manage 7 people versus managing 700 people. It also doesn't make much of a personal financial difference if a fed manages a $50,000 budget versus a $5 million budget. The only difference will be that austerity will make it harder for them to do their work.


Are you serious right now? It's called job security and fringe benefits.


What makes you think that billionaires are not motivated by money and โ€œfringe benefitsโ€? Like why do you trust wealthy business owners more than government workers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Conservatives should support a return to the spoils system. The fed workforce is so far to the left that Trump can cut to the bone without hurting his supporters.

The fed workers were supposed to be neutral, but they couldn't help themselves. I hope they fire 90% of them.


Well the federal workforce is by and large more educated than the general public and we know there is a correlation between lack of education and voting R. So this tracks.


Stop taking this personally. This government is too GD big. Too many moving parts. Too much inefficiency.

Some cutbacks are necessary.


Yes, some cutbacks are necessary. Having a couple billionaires who have a personal vendetta against Feds oversee it as a pet project is not the way.


So what is the way?


Get someone who wonโ€™t potentially have financial gain from destroying the federal workforce to do it.


Who will actually have the wherewithal, motivation and incentive to get the job done? McKinsey and the like have been at it for years, but they have a financial incentive in a bloated government so they can keep winning jobs and contracts. Feds have a financial incentive in bloat so they can keep cashing in for little to no output. Financial incentive are already everywhere baked into the system, maybe a little self interest for these guys might not be the worst thing in the world.


Huh? What financial incentives do feds have in bloat? They personally make no more money if government grows versus if it shrinks.
Government doesn't work the way business does. GS scales are fixed, there is not much of any genuinely meaningful added financial benefit to be had if you manage 7 people versus managing 700 people. It also doesn't make much of a personal financial difference if a fed manages a $50,000 budget versus a $5 million budget. The only difference will be that austerity will make it harder for them to do their work.


Are you serious right now? It's called job security and fringe benefits.


What makes you think that billionaires are not motivated by money and โ€œfringe benefitsโ€? Like why do you trust wealthy business owners more than government workers?


+1 Elon is getting something out of this. He isnโ€™t here because he just loves Americans.
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