This high school test retake policy is wild

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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


As a teacher, I typically hunt down students for retakes if they have a C- or lower. I don't begrudge any student requesting a retake though, because that is the environment the kids are operating in now. While I personally think it should just be up to 80%, since the policy is up to 100%, students who don't take advantage of retakes are at a disadvantage. I do require some modest remediation, but I try to not make it onerous.


How many retakes are you doing per test?


One, which is what is required. Unlimited retakes would not be sustainable from a workload point of view, and as other teachers have stated, students who do this too often can dig themselves into a hole in terms of learning. They end up perpetually playing catch up. However, the policy is what it is, and I'm not going to make it unduly difficult on kids. I usually only have a handful of A/B students requesting retakes or redos anyway. Most of mine are ones I initiate.

I also pre-assess and review before quizzes and tests to make sure the students are on track and give pretty detailed study guides.


You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you for approach you are taking.


+100 Need more like you
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


As a teacher, I typically hunt down students for retakes if they have a C- or lower. I don't begrudge any student requesting a retake though, because that is the environment the kids are operating in now. While I personally think it should just be up to 80%, since the policy is up to 100%, students who don't take advantage of retakes are at a disadvantage. I do require some modest remediation, but I try to not make it onerous.


How many retakes are you doing per test?


One, which is what is required. Unlimited retakes would not be sustainable from a workload point of view, and as other teachers have stated, students who do this too often can dig themselves into a hole in terms of learning. They end up perpetually playing catch up. However, the policy is what it is, and I'm not going to make it unduly difficult on kids. I usually only have a handful of A/B students requesting retakes or redos anyway. Most of mine are ones I initiate.

I also pre-assess and review before quizzes and tests to make sure the students are on track and give pretty detailed study guides.


I think the question was how many retakes are you doing as in how many kids are you administering retakes to per test?
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


As a teacher, I typically hunt down students for retakes if they have a C- or lower. I don't begrudge any student requesting a retake though, because that is the environment the kids are operating in now. While I personally think it should just be up to 80%, since the policy is up to 100%, students who don't take advantage of retakes are at a disadvantage. I do require some modest remediation, but I try to not make it onerous.


How many retakes are you doing per test?


One, which is what is required. Unlimited retakes would not be sustainable from a workload point of view, and as other teachers have stated, students who do this too often can dig themselves into a hole in terms of learning. They end up perpetually playing catch up. However, the policy is what it is, and I'm not going to make it unduly difficult on kids. I usually only have a handful of A/B students requesting retakes or redos anyway. Most of mine are ones I initiate.

I also pre-assess and review before quizzes and tests to make sure the students are on track and give pretty detailed study guides.


Usually no more than 10% per test, quiz or essay. So around 12-15

I think the question was how many retakes are you doing as in how many kids are you administering retakes to per test?
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


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My kid retook a 98, but they compete with their friends over grades
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


As a teacher, I typically hunt down students for retakes if they have a C- or lower. I don't begrudge any student requesting a retake though, because that is the environment the kids are operating in now. While I personally think it should just be up to 80%, since the policy is up to 100%, students who don't take advantage of retakes are at a disadvantage. I do require some modest remediation, but I try to not make it onerous.


How many retakes are you doing per test?


One, which is what is required. Unlimited retakes would not be sustainable from a workload point of view, and as other teachers have stated, students who do this too often can dig themselves into a hole in terms of learning. They end up perpetually playing catch up. However, the policy is what it is, and I'm not going to make it unduly difficult on kids. I usually only have a handful of A/B students requesting retakes or redos anyway. Most of mine are ones I initiate.

I also pre-assess and review before quizzes and tests to make sure the students are on track and give pretty detailed study guides.


You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you for approach you are taking.


Thank you. I'm a parent of a current college student and a high schooler, so I think that adds some perspective.
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Anonymous wrote:I love the policy. My kid jwho is a unior has an uw 4.0. She says she will retake anything below 93.5. She's a good student and if that makes her happy so be it. I like the determination.


Of course she has a 4.0! 😂
Aren’t you concerned she is unprepared for challenges ahead? It is very easy to retake a test. It’s not particularly difficult to do and it’s not a testament to grit.


Hey genius. She has a 4.0 uw and the policy just started this year. She couldn't do this before. I shared it to say she's a good student who cares about grades and will now use this policy to her advantage. Not afraid she's unprepared. She got those grades without a retake policy. It used to be only under 80 can retake and she's never gotten under 80. Also, I'm not sure what school your kids go to but at hers retakes require test corrections and then a retake. If it was so easy everyone would do it but 2 teachers on here said every kid doesn't. Try to keep up.


Oh, you’re a snot. Got it. No wonder your kid is as unhealthily obsessive as she is.

DP
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Anonymous wrote:When I went to my kid's hs btsn the only teacher that mentioned retakes was math and she said if you get a worse score, the most recent score stands, other than that no one else mentioned it.


That’s how it should be. Hopefully the policy will change to reflect this.
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Anonymous wrote:It is such a stupid policy and a real slap in the face to teachers at a time we should be improving their job not making it harder. Also what does it do to gpas? For the first time I am saying what I see on here all the time - I am glad I am almost done with fcps.

-parent of 2 fcps grads and one fcps senior


Maybe so, but if it’s policy, my kids will take advantage of it.


Yes, we heard you the first six times, drama mama.
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Anonymous wrote:They need to end retakes completely. It's an unfair demand on teachers and it makes GPAs meaningless.



Everyone on here crying about retakes are the same people who have their kids take the SAT/ACT 2+ times to improve and/or superscore. Is the score meaningless?

Now watch them twist themselves into knots to justify it.


I'm not anti-retakes, at least for certain grades. But I do think the policy of letting kids scoreup to 100% on retakes, rather than 80 or 90% is entirely unworkable for teachers and creates more anxiety and pressure and kids that will retake a low A just to get a higher A.


SAT/ACT should say you only get 1 chance but if you score below 1340 or 29 you can retake once, but only up to 1340 or 29.


Surely you can grasp the difference between a test kids take 2-3 times ever and that the testing body is paid for each time kids take it vs the constant year in year out dynamics of HS grades and the added work that pours onto teachers already overworked.


The arguments consist mostly of people saying a retake doesn't prepare the kids for the real world (which is false you can retake most anything), doesn't prepare them for college, creates bad habits, makes the A "meaningless," makes it harder to get into UVA and other coveted colleges, etc . . . no one complaining cares about the teachers, I assure you, except teachers.

Every single complaint can be said for repeated SAT/ACT and superscoring but never is.



It is your sort of mush-headed thinking which is lowering standards and leading the U.S. downhill, PP.

Let me guess: you are a Harris/Walz voter, amirite?


The absurdity of a Trump supporter (and yes, you are) calling OTHERS “mush-headed” is positively incredible.
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Grade inflation is real. This is really pathetic. So sad there kids not getting into certain colleges because of this. It’s one big lie.
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


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Wow ok. And this is why the private school parents make fun of public school grade inflation.
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Anonymous wrote:So my kids have told me that some kids will retake even if they get a decent grade like A-. Is there a point where you would make your kid retake a test? A B? A D?


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My kid retook a 98, but they compete with their friends over grades

That’s absurd and such a PITA for the teacher. Argh.
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There should be a maximum B grade after a retake.
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Anonymous wrote:There should be a maximum B grade after a retake.


Last year's retake policy made sense. Retakes on major assessments only. Max retake score= 80%.

This year is crazy.

My kid said her teacher had to use the lecture hall to offer retakes on the most recent test because over 50 students wanted to retake the test.

Talking to her friends, almost all of them said they had gotten 85%-95% on the original test.

The teacher said the class average (in my daughter's class) was an 89%.

Now that teacher has to re-grade over 50 essay-based assessments because those students wanted to get an extra 5%-10%, and the overall impact on their grade will be less than 0.1%.

That's ridiculous.
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