NM and DMV FC to GFR?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RP and KB will both be exposed soon enough.

Exposed for *what*, exactly? And who is going to do the “exposing”?

[Anonymous]

YNT caliber players hardly need any coaching. You could put them on a clueless parent coached team and they would still win games for the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP and KB will both be exposed soon enough.

Exposed for *what*, exactly? And who is going to do the “exposing”?

Stay tuned...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RP and KB will both be exposed soon enough.

Okay I'll bite. What did they allegedly do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who the bashers are. My kid trained under NM and his DMV staff for more than six years. We also have experience with other local elite clubs. I literally had a parent tell me that NM was hands down the best girls coach in the area and he was a college coach who had coached his daughter thru u15 at another local ECNL club and he moved her to McLean. She was YNT player who ended up at an elite ACC program.

People have different preferences and NM might not be the best fit for some but there are just too many players who developed under NM to say anything other than he does a great job developing kids for the next level.

Re: recruiting, every club needs to recruit. I don't believe the SYC deal brought major numbers to McLean nor do I believe that the JV was done for the benefit of the Mclean ECNL Girls. My daughter's team added one SYC player and I think that player will tell you that playing under NM improved her game.

All this is spot on. I would add that several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players. The agreement was never meant to strengthen the girls' side for McLean. It was meant to strengthen the boys' side (which didn't happen once SYC was given MLS Next through U18). It was also meant as a pathway for SYC girls but they still had to compete for spots with girls outside the Union partnership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who the bashers are. My kid trained under NM and his DMV staff for more than six years. We also have experience with other local elite clubs. I literally had a parent tell me that NM was hands down the best girls coach in the area and he was a college coach who had coached his daughter thru u15 at another local ECNL club and he moved her to McLean. She was YNT player who ended up at an elite ACC program.

People have different preferences and NM might not be the best fit for some but there are just too many players who developed under NM to say anything other than he does a great job developing kids for the next level.

Re: recruiting, every club needs to recruit. I don't believe the SYC deal brought major numbers to McLean nor do I believe that the JV was done for the benefit of the Mclean ECNL Girls. My daughter's team added one SYC player and I think that player will tell you that playing under NM improved her game.

All this is spot on. I would add that several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players. The agreement was never meant to strengthen the girls' side for McLean. It was meant to strengthen the boys' side (which didn't happen once SYC was given MLS Next through U18). It was also meant as a pathway for SYC girls but they still had to compete for spots with girls outside the Union partnership.

So the 2010 and 2011 teams are 1-2 players from SYC? Whatchu smokin’?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who the bashers are. My kid trained under NM and his DMV staff for more than six years. We also have experience with other local elite clubs. I literally had a parent tell me that NM was hands down the best girls coach in the area and he was a college coach who had coached his daughter thru u15 at another local ECNL club and he moved her to McLean. She was YNT player who ended up at an elite ACC program.

People have different preferences and NM might not be the best fit for some but there are just too many players who developed under NM to say anything other than he does a great job developing kids for the next level.

Re: recruiting, every club needs to recruit. I don't believe the SYC deal brought major numbers to McLean nor do I believe that the JV was done for the benefit of the Mclean ECNL Girls. My daughter's team added one SYC player and I think that player will tell you that playing under NM improved her game.

All this is spot on. I would add that several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players. The agreement was never meant to strengthen the girls' side for McLean. It was meant to strengthen the boys' side (which didn't happen once SYC was given MLS Next through U18). It was also meant as a pathway for SYC girls but they still had to compete for spots with girls outside the Union partnership.

So the 2010 and 2011 teams are 1-2 players from SYC? Whatchu smokin’?

Reading comprehension is key. See above -- "several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players." Didn't say ALL. That applies to all age groups, except for 2010 and 2011.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure who the bashers are. My kid trained under NM and his DMV staff for more than six years. We also have experience with other local elite clubs. I literally had a parent tell me that NM was hands down the best girls coach in the area and he was a college coach who had coached his daughter thru u15 at another local ECNL club and he moved her to McLean. She was YNT player who ended up at an elite ACC program.

People have different preferences and NM might not be the best fit for some but there are just too many players who developed under NM to say anything other than he does a great job developing kids for the next level.

Re: recruiting, every club needs to recruit. I don't believe the SYC deal brought major numbers to McLean nor do I believe that the JV was done for the benefit of the Mclean ECNL Girls. My daughter's team added one SYC player and I think that player will tell you that playing under NM improved her game.

All this is spot on. I would add that several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players. The agreement was never meant to strengthen the girls' side for McLean. It was meant to strengthen the boys' side (which didn't happen once SYC was given MLS Next through U18). It was also meant as a pathway for SYC girls but they still had to compete for spots with girls outside the Union partnership.

So the 2010 and 2011 teams are 1-2 players from SYC? Whatchu smokin’?

Reading comprehension is key. See above -- "several McLean/Union age groups added 1-2 SYC players." Didn't say ALL. That applies to all age groups, except for 2010 and 2011.

And most of the players added left after a year or 2. There are almost no SYC boy players left on Union. So, the grand Union experiment has dissolved. "Union" is just the old McLean ECNL team with a new name and different branding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YNT caliber players hardly need any coaching. You could put them on a clueless parent coached team and they would still win games for the team.

You miss the point. A father who coaches D1 soccer and coached his daughter thru u15, had the opportunity to pick any coach/club in the DMV and picked NM/McLean. Not sure how much of an endorsement you need. Also, I have watched plenty of committed players who developed elsewhere who left elite clubs to join NM/McLean their final year because the environment and training is superior to other places.

From my experience, NM is great at offering opportunities to play at various levels. If your kid is driven and will work on personal development (first touch, striking, etc.) they will have plenty of opportunities to play at a high level.

[Anonymous]

Right. With a bit of hard work and coaching, your average kid is going to get an opportunity to play on an ecnl team with a youth national team player. Sure thing buddy.

[Anonymous]

By u15 there are no longer undiscovered ecnl players anywhere. Loudon and vsa have handfuls of players that got cut from ecnl who are pretty good but they're not going back for whatever reason. Players of that level just aren't floating around all over the place ready to be picked up passed a certain age. Regardless of the amount of coaching they get.

[Anonymous]

The dirty Little secret of coaching is that players are not really drawn to the coach, they are drawn to the league that the coach's team plays in. Having a good coach is an added bonus but try this experiment, pick any good coach, and have them pull their team down by one level. See how many players stay despite how great the coach is.

Let's say a "great" ecnl coach announces to his or her team that the team will be moving to Enci regional next year but with the same coach. How many players stay?

[Anonymous]

This is simply untrue, especially for boys who develop physically much later than girls. There’s too many stories of pros (like Harry Kane) who were late bloomers. There are also many diamonds in the rough out there who cannot afford playing ECNL and therefore don’t.

[Anonymous]

It's true for girls. Not true for boys.

[Anonymous]

An ecnl caliber female player playing on a non ecnl team or against another non ecnl team basically unbalances the game. They stick out like a sore thumb. The only ones that are out there after a certain age are players who used to play ecnl who got released or cut or drop the program, usually with big clubs but have no interest in going back. There are no "undiscovered players" in this area on the female side of the game by the high school ages.