“Equity math” coming to FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are already doing this, with their expanded E3 pilot, gradually implementing the detracking portion of VMPI without saying they were doing it.

More lies. They aren’t eliminating math tracking.

Weird because E3 math curriculum (3/4) doesnt prepare a kid for 6th grade math in 5th. How can kids get to algebra in 7th if they aren’t advanced by a year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are already doing this, with their expanded E3 pilot, gradually implementing the detracking portion of VMPI without saying they were doing it.

More lies. They aren’t eliminating math tracking.

Weird because E3 math curriculum (3/4) doesnt prepare a kid for 6th grade math in 5th. How can kids get to algebra in 7th if they aren’t advanced by a year?

I figured most people used outside prep like AoPS or RSM to advance their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are already doing this, with their expanded E3 pilot, gradually implementing the detracking portion of VMPI without saying they were doing it.

More lies. They aren’t eliminating math tracking.

Weird because E3 math curriculum (3/4) doesnt prepare a kid for 6th grade math in 5th. How can kids get to algebra in 7th if they aren’t advanced by a year?

I figured most people used outside prep like AoPS or RSM to advance their children.

I mean people can use those methods, but the county's compacted math is more than adequate to put kids into 7th grade algebra. It was for my kids.

Replacing that compacted math with E3 (the current pilot of 20 schools or more), however, does not meet the same advancement and would leave people to pursue outside prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are already doing this, with their expanded E3 pilot, gradually implementing the detracking portion of VMPI without saying they were doing it.

More lies. They aren’t eliminating math tracking.

Weird because E3 math curriculum (3/4) doesnt prepare a kid for 6th grade math in 5th. How can kids get to algebra in 7th if they aren’t advanced by a year?

I figured most people used outside prep like AoPS or RSM to advance their children.

I mean people can use those methods, but the county's compacted math is more than adequate to put kids into 7th grade algebra. It was for my kids.

Replacing that compacted math with E3 (the current pilot of 20 schools or more), however, does not meet the same advancement and would leave people to pursue outside prep.

Regardless, if they want in on the fast track to TJ they'll need more than compacted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is insane.

It's insanely cool that you get equity math!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Aacademy is a nice substitute for real enrichment but pales before the best options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

Khan and youtube kept my kid reliably at the top of their math classes in FCPS. If a kid is self motivated, there isn't a math concept that isn't explained online for free. Not every kid needs their hand held or a tutor pushing them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

AoPS has a ton of free resources, too. A highly motivated kid could get far by using Alcumus and asking questions in the forums. A decent number of the kids on AoPS have youtube channels explaining how to solve problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

Khan and youtube kept my kid reliably at the top of their math classes in FCPS. If a kid is self motivated, there isn't a math concept that isn't explained online for free. Not every kid needs their hand held or a tutor pushing them

The sad part is how much better they might've done with actual prep like RSM or AoPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

AoPS has a ton of free resources, too. A highly motivated kid could get far by using Alcumus and asking questions in the forums. A decent number of the kids on AoPS have youtube channels explaining how to solve problems.

But most kids benefit from having it spoon fed in a for $$$ program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I can’t comment for last year, but in previous years, Mosaic has had 6-8 kids per year skip up in math.

THat's often the case with UMC kids whose parents pay for outside enrichment.

Khan Academy is the only outside enrichment my kids uses, and paid nothing for using it. Public school math teachers are more than glad to point to a ton of additional resources for outside enrichment that dont cost a penny.

You are a nutcase to believe outside enrichment costs money.

Khan Academy works for kids who are advanced and self motivated or kids who have parents who are motivated and can help explain concepts. These kids are going to tend to be MC and UMC. A Lower SES kid is not likely to have parents that are as invested in education, because a large percentage of lower SES families have not completed high school, or parents who are invested but cannot help their child with homework. Khan is a great resource but is not going to work for a child who is struggling or does not intuitively understand math concepts.

An Advanced Math class will help a kid who is solid at math and can do faster pace math but needs more help then the self motivated kid or invested parent who can help.

While Khan is free to everyone, it still will mainly benefit MC and UMC kids and only a small percentage of lower SES kids.

Khan helps kids who log into Khan, whether or not they are advanced. Khan's greatness is its ability to cater to learners at all levels. The ability of the parents do not, per se, affect the usability of Khan. Obviously, multiple sources of learning (Khan, good parents, teachers, tutors, etc) build upon each other, but the singular effects of each source shouldn't be discounted. I think you are conflating spillover effects of high SES families with the direct benefits of Khan.

But let's try to be honest. It's fine for a free service but isn't anywhere close to as good as Beast Academy or AoPS.

Khan and youtube kept my kid reliably at the top of their math classes in FCPS. If a kid is self motivated, there isn't a math concept that isn't explained online for free. Not every kid needs their hand held or a tutor pushing them

The sad part is how much better they might've done with actual prep like RSM or AoPS.

They're fine with just taking multivariable in high school. Not everyone wants to be a physicist