Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

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Anonymous wrote:We had great experience w APS re class size. However my kid who transitioned from Arlington public to private found he was ahead in math and behind in reading/writing.

My sibling who is a college professor says it’s shocking how many kids at selective colleges can’t write these days. APS should up it’s game in that regard.

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Yes. I’m an attorney and we have interns coming to us from Georgetown Law and they can barely write a paragraph.

Seems like that's an even bigger problem. Their 4-years college didn't fix the problem either?

PP here. I guess not. I just don’t understand how someone can get into law school with such poor writing skills. My worry is that if these are the “best of the best” when it comes to writing, what is everyone else’s writing like? Maybe students come to college with such poor writing skills that colleges have to dumb down the curriculum? I honestly have no idea what’s going on.

Writing for law is not taught until law school, and yes it is a totally different skill set. Then, writing the way your firm wants you to write is yet another skill set. There is also a generational divide in how drafts are created, and some old school lawyers do not understand the process of the current generation. For example, associates are frustrated with older partners who nitpick on the polish when the brief is in the idea and supporting evidence phase. The current generation of writers have been taught a process that puts the polish last, not that it never comes.

Perhaps you are right (hence my comment on how drafts should still be polished). But I wish that was the only problem. I’m talking about interns who can’t construct a proper paragraph. Actually to be fair, they can but it just sounds so basic, like something I would have written in 8th or 9th grade. The sad thing is that these students are super smart. They know so much and are exposed to so many different ideas. It’s just that they can’t write. They definitely have better presentation skills than I did at that age, but they can’t write.

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Anonymous wrote:We had great experience w APS re class size. However my kid who transitioned from Arlington public to private found he was ahead in math and behind in reading/writing.

My sibling who is a college professor says it’s shocking how many kids at selective colleges can’t write these days. APS should up it’s game in that regard.

I’m the attorney who posted
about our interns at Georgetown law. I feel that it is imperative that colleges begin communicating this to schools. Schools need to know that even their brightest aren’t prepared for college.

How are you hiring? Are they submitting writing from the law school year?

Are you looking beyond Georgetown or just relying on the reputation of the school? These students aren’t the brightest if they can’t write, no matter what school they come from. The smartest lawyers I know didn’t come out of the big-name schools- that’s just an anecdote of course.

Then there also must be something wrong with Georgetown's legal writing program.

PP here. The thing is, their writing samples are excellent. So clearly they have been edited well. The bigger issue I feel is that the interns I am thinking of seem to be under the impression that it is ok to turn a very rough draft in. Drafts still need to be well written. This isn’t a an email to a friend. I don’t want to completely bash Georgetown Law. As I explained in my previous post, the interns from Georgetown seem to be part of a pattern. I just picked on them because their school is quite reputable and we had three interns from them that had terrible writing skills. To be fair, we’ve had great interns from Georgetown as well. But in general, the quality of writing we are getting is becoming worse and worse.

I’ve seen this in my personal life as well. I’ve reviewed college application essays for my husband’s nephews and nieces. They are all super smart smart but their writing skills are terrible. They are all applying to med school, dental school, PA school etc. where writing doesn’t matter as much. But I feel that high school graduates should still be able to write a decent paper. I read a good article by Natalie Wexler and Judith Hochman. What they are saying makes a lot of sense. Kids need to be explicitly taught how to write starting at the sentence level. When I read it it’s like a lightbulb went off. This is the problem. Students no longer know how to construct complex sentences.

https://www.aft.org/ae/summer2017/hochman_wexler

Yeah that sounds like a combo of can’t write, plus an overly causal attitude towards assignments. This generation is way too casual.

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Anonymous wrote:We had great experience w APS re class size. However my kid who transitioned from Arlington public to private found he was ahead in math and behind in reading/writing.

My sibling who is a college professor says it’s shocking how many kids at selective colleges can’t write these days. APS should up it’s game in that regard.

I’m the attorney who posted
about our interns at Georgetown law. I feel that it is imperative that colleges begin communicating this to schools. Schools need to know that even their brightest aren’t prepared for college.

How are you hiring? Are they submitting writing from the law school year?

Are you looking beyond Georgetown or just relying on the reputation of the school? These students aren’t the brightest if they can’t write, no matter what school they come from. The smartest lawyers I know didn’t come out of the big-name schools- that’s just an anecdote of course.

Then there also must be something wrong with Georgetown's legal writing program.

PP here. The thing is, their writing samples are excellent. So clearly they have been edited well. The bigger issue I feel is that the interns I am thinking of seem to be under the impression that it is ok to turn a very rough draft in. Drafts still need to be well written. This isn’t a an email to a friend. I don’t want to completely bash Georgetown Law. As I explained in my previous post, the interns from Georgetown seem to be part of a pattern. I just picked on them because their school is quite reputable and we had three interns from them that had terrible writing skills. To be fair, we’ve had great interns from Georgetown as well. But in general, the quality of writing we are getting is becoming worse and worse.

I’ve seen this in my personal life as well. I’ve reviewed college application essays for my husband’s nephews and nieces. They are all super smart smart but their writing skills are terrible. They are all applying to med school, dental school, PA school etc. where writing doesn’t matter as much. But I feel that high school graduates should still be able to write a decent paper. I read a good article by Natalie Wexler and Judith Hochman. What they are saying makes a lot of sense. Kids need to be explicitly taught how to write starting at the sentence level. When I read it it’s like a lightbulb went off. This is the problem. Students no longer know how to construct complex sentences.

https://www.aft.org/ae/summer2017/hochman_wexler

Yeah that sounds like a combo of can’t write, plus an overly causal attitude towards assignments. This generation is way too casual.

What is the solution though? Take a look at this other article by Natalie Wexler who I love. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2023/01/04/to-improve-students-writing-teach-them-to-construct-sentences-and-outline-paragraphs/?sh=4307e8b37e70

She is saying that only 27% of 8th and 12th graders are proficient in writing as measured by national tests. That’s insane. This isn’t just an Arlington problem. It is a nationwide issue.

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I wish the whiners who don't even have kids in APS anymore would drop off the various APS email lists. We got it. You left APS because you didn't like it. Time to move on.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

“I want to pass on enormous amounts of wealth to you, avoiding as many taxes as possible. Here’s a couple million dollars in private school tuition for your kids.”

50K x 13 years x 3 kids = $1.95 million (though it will be higher because private school tuition keeps ballooning)

Not everyone who has gramps footing the bill is poor.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

“I want to pass on enormous amounts of wealth to you, avoiding as many taxes as possible. Here’s a couple million dollars in private school tuition for your kids.”

50K x 13 years x 3 kids = $1.95 million (though it will be higher because private school tuition keeps ballooning)

Not everyone who has gramps footing the bill is poor.

Nobody said that. The point was that most families aren’t any more wealthy than the average 3M Arlington homeowner. But yes, there is a group of people that are ultra-wealthy, I think everyone understands that.

Anyway, this is a silly tangent and I regret chiming in.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

Did he say that one could? I see a question about the average HHI in wealthy parts of Arlington. Three private school tuitions would be hard to swing unless you make a ton of money.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

Did he say that one could? I see a question about the average HHI in wealthy parts of Arlington. Three private school tuitions would be hard to swing unless you make a ton of money.

Yes - in the reply, PP bolded the sentence where it was stated that anyone in a 3M dollar house can afford private school. PP was therefore specifically responding to that statement. I don’t know what math gets you a 3M house on a 400k income absent down payment assistance from a family member…??? But if anyone can show their work, that would help all the people in the real estate forum lamenting the price of N Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

Did he say that one could? I see a question about the average HHI in wealthy parts of Arlington. Three private school tuitions would be hard to swing unless you make a ton of money.

Yes - in the reply, PP bolded the sentence where it was stated that anyone in a 3M dollar house can afford private school. PP was therefore specifically responding to that statement. I don’t know what math gets you a 3M house on a 400k income absent down payment assistance from a family member…??? But if anyone can show their work, that would help all the people in the real estate forum lamenting the price of N Arlington.

No. He said go look in the private school forum about people making $400K saying they’re in the bottom half of their school income-wise, not that one can afford a $3M home on $400K.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

Did he say that one could? I see a question about the average HHI in wealthy parts of Arlington. Three private school tuitions would be hard to swing unless you make a ton of money.

Yes - in the reply, PP bolded the sentence where it was stated that anyone in a 3M dollar house can afford private school. PP was therefore specifically responding to that statement. I don’t know what math gets you a 3M house on a 400k income absent down payment assistance from a family member…??? But if anyone can show their work, that would help all the people in the real estate forum lamenting the price of N Arlington.

No. He said go look in the private school forum about people making $400K saying they’re in the bottom half of their school income-wise, not that one can afford a $3M home on $400K.

It’s eye-opening. People say they make $300K and are on financial aid! I imagine that must give their kid a warped sense of reality when it comes to what it means to be poor.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a status symbol thing - as wealthier and wealthier families move into ARL, they'll shift more and more to private. I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.

And yet most families still go public. Even in the priciest neighborhoods.

Arlington wealthy isn’t the same as DC wealthy. 50+K of after tax dollars is a lot to pay per year (per kid!), even if you live in a 3 million dollar home.

I think you’re overestimating the wealth of the majority of private school parents and underestimating the number of families with grandparents paying tuition.

Sure, there’s a lot of generational wealth there. Maybe the grandparents are buying these families’ second and third vacation homes, too. 😉

I am friendly with a family whose grandparents pay for their children’s private school tuition. It’s not because mom and dad can’t afford it. It’s a way of passing down wealth and avoiding taxes on that amount.

Yes there are enormously wealthy people there. But that’s not the majority of the families. Anyone in a 3M home in Arlington could easily afford tuition if they wanted to and they would likely be in the top half of families, income-wise. APS is flawed but better than DCPS. It’s my opinion that this is the difference.

You are so, so wrong. Go look in the Private School forum. People making 400K per year saying they’re in the bottom half of the income bracket.

What’s the average HHI of those living in wealthier parts of Arlington? Can they *really* afford 50, 100, 150K in after-tax dollars for tuition? (Some of these schools are 55K now, and increasing every year.)

Bless your heart.

But you can’t buy a 3M dollar house on 400k so your answer wasn’t the zinger you thought it was.

Did he say that one could? I see a question about the average HHI in wealthy parts of Arlington. Three private school tuitions would be hard to swing unless you make a ton of money.

Yes - in the reply, PP bolded the sentence where it was stated that anyone in a 3M dollar house can afford private school. PP was therefore specifically responding to that statement. I don’t know what math gets you a 3M house on a 400k income absent down payment assistance from a family member…??? But if anyone can show their work, that would help all the people in the real estate forum lamenting the price of N Arlington.

No. He said go look in the private school forum about people making $400K saying they’re in the bottom half of their school income-wise, not that one can afford a $3M home on $400K.

It’s eye-opening. People say they make $300K and are on financial aid! I imagine that must give their kid a warped sense of reality when it comes to what it means to be poor.

But why did the poster take issue with the statement about the 3M home??? Def agree 400k puts you in the bottom half, but PP’s reply had nothing to do with the response he was criticizing.