If you are wealthy would you send your kids to a W school over private?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

This is ugly elitism. I’ve seen it, and it’s always gross. If this is your opinion of Ivy masters students I’m sure I’d shudder to hear what you think of the masses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

This is ugly elitism. I’ve seen it, and it’s always gross. If this is your opinion of Ivy masters students I’m sure I’d shudder to hear what you think of the masses.

I have nothing against the MA students. I’m simply saying that this is the reality of how the programs are perceived.

You yourself are being incredibly elitist by pointing to Ivy grad program admissions as the marker of MCPS success.

So — pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

DP
And this is supposed to make me respect Ivies? What a bunch of self important a$$holes.

Of course not. But many schools do it. Not just Ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

This is ugly elitism. I’ve seen it, and it’s always gross. If this is your opinion of Ivy masters students I’m sure I’d shudder to hear what you think of the masses.

I have nothing against the MA students. I’m simply saying that this is the reality of how the programs are perceived.

You yourself are being incredibly elitist by pointing to Ivy grad program admissions as the marker of MCPS success.

So — pot meet kettle.

Did not do that, merely backed up another poster who suggested MCPS had served their child well. I think future academic success substantiates that.

I’m actually new to MCPS myself. My kid is 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

This is ugly elitism. I’ve seen it, and it’s always gross. If this is your opinion of Ivy masters students I’m sure I’d shudder to hear what you think of the masses.

I have nothing against the MA students. I’m simply saying that this is the reality of how the programs are perceived.

You yourself are being incredibly elitist by pointing to Ivy grad program admissions as the marker of MCPS success.

So — pot meet kettle.

DP

That is NOT elitist. At all.
PP’s point stands - much better than yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll give you an example: Yale has MA social sciences programs that offer 80% scholarship. They fill the spots in part with kids who didn’t get into their social sciences PhD programs.

MA programs in particular are huge cash cows for these schools and the admissions requirements are … lackluster.

Lackluster? I’m familiar with these MA programs but the quality of applicants who miss out at the PhD application level is high. Many of these students pay for a masters are try again, often successfully, for PhD admission.

If you want to hang your hat on MA programs the PhD students and professors laugh at, be my guest. That’s not what I’d use to substantiate how great MCPS is.

This is ugly elitism. I’ve seen it, and it’s always gross. If this is your opinion of Ivy masters students I’m sure I’d shudder to hear what you think of the masses.

I have nothing against the MA students. I’m simply saying that this is the reality of how the programs are perceived.

You yourself are being incredibly elitist by pointing to Ivy grad program admissions as the marker of MCPS success.

So — pot meet kettle.

DP

That is NOT elitist. At all.
PP’s point stands - much better than yours.

It’s blatantly elitist because it implies that non-Ivies are inferior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

[Anonymous]

I would— and did— do public unless there was a specific reason to do private. My kid got a good education in MCPS and is at a great school.

There are certainly things I didn’t like along the way but I realize no school is perfect and switching schools would be trading problems. So if there was a serious specific problem I had with my school I thought could be fixed with a switch I would but otherwise no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This type of thread is always very triggering to parents who want to pretend they could afford private school but in reality it’s out of reach ($100k/year in post tax dollars for two kids is really tough even for UMC families!), so they spin us all a yarn about why actually public is the exact same or better and it’s not really about the money.

I don’t understand why you won’t just admit to yourself and us that you actually CAN’T afford it, and that’s the real reason. Not math at Wootton or whatever TF you’re trying to convince us of.

The question OP asked was for those of us who can easily afford private. Can’t speak for others, but our decision to send our kids to a W school wasn’t based on money, the cost of private wouldn’t matter to us, we just thought public was a better environment, better opportunities and generally offered a great education. Very happy in MCPS as many other posters here are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s not enough, here’s more:

Landon: https://issuu.com/landonschool/docs/landon_course_of_study_2022-23_fnl_1_/18?ff

Georgetown Prep: https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1679927503/georgetown/ei1bqgzlpiudexqdkxpi/2023-24_GP_AcademicCatalogue.pdf

NCS school profile, which lists math courses: https://ncs.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/59/download/download_2961509.pdf

Sometimes the catalog has it, but that doesn't mean they actually have it offered that year if there aren't enough kids who are able to take the class.

Classic goalpost moving! You gotta love it.

but it's true. Even college sometimes have courses listed on the catalog, but if not enough people sign up for the class, they have to cancel the class.

And actually, MCPS schools have had similar situations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

that doesn't show the number of cohorts in the class. I stated above, my kid's HS needs two MVC classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

that doesn't show the number of cohorts in the class. I stated above, my kid's HS needs two MVC classes.

Your kid’s HS is probably 4 times larger than most private schools, so the percentage of the class in MVC is likely comparable to private, if not lower.

Simple math, my friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

I’m sorry, but the level of math in public schools in the area is no contest with private, particularly with respect to the cohort of math/computer science kids. It is generally accepted, if you have a stem kid go public. The public kids are truly amazing in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.

We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?

Apparently, we do. The privates are not even close in math and science options, or in providing an advanced math cohort.

Look at the 8-9 course catalogs I posted.

that doesn't show the number of cohorts in the class. I stated above, my kid's HS needs two MVC classes.

Your kid’s HS is probably 4 times larger than most private schools, so the percentage of the class in MVC is likely comparable to private, if not lower.

Simple math, my friend.

Actually, it’s even worse.

Whitman has roughly 2,000 kids.

With about 60 kids per grade at many private schools, that’s roughly 250 kids.

So if there’s one MVC section of, say, 15 kids in that private school, that’s 25% of the senior class, assuming they’re all seniors.

However, with a senior class at an MCPS school of maybe 500 kids, two sections of maybe 20 kids each is only 8% of the class.