Perception of Service Academies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

Did your DC participate in varsity athletics at TJ? My TJ DS is interested in the academies. He attended the Summer Experience at West Point and enjoyed it but was a bit intimidated when he found out every attendee participated in varsity sports, usually multiple sports, and were even captains of their teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

Did your DC participate in varsity athletics at TJ? My TJ DS is interested in the academies. He attended the Summer Experience at West Point and enjoyed it but was a bit intimidated when he found out every attendee participated in varsity sports, usually multiple sports, and were even captains of their teams.

That is standard. It's actually an exception that academy students are not a part of a varsity sport...hence the title of this thread. They are looking for a certain type of student which is why it is so competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

How much of that is self-selected (people applying because it's a "family tradition") and not the academies deliberately selecting the children of grads?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

How much of that is self-selected (people applying because it's a "family tradition") and not the academies deliberately selecting the children of grads?

Most of it...it can't be compared to normal college, you have to want it and most of those that do have family that did. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's a unique 4 year experience that has a commitment on the back end, it is not for most people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

Did your DC participate in varsity athletics at TJ? My TJ DS is interested in the academies. He attended the Summer Experience at West Point and enjoyed it but was a bit intimidated when he found out every attendee participated in varsity sports, usually multiple sports, and were even captains of their teams.

I am the PP. Yes my son did one varsity sport and he was a captain. But, as you know, TJ sports are a mixed bag -. But the other two TJ kids who also went to USMA with him did not - one played a club sport and one played JV only. TJ kids with high scores can get a letter of assurance from West Point summer before senior year - then they just need to pass physical, pass fitness test (toughest events tend to be pull ups/push ups as form must be perfect) and nomination. There are local groups that run a fitness program - they were great. . I worried a bit about my son at Beast barracks/field training but he has been great.

Best of luck to your DS - mine is thriving at USMA and TJ set him up for academic success therefore sure.

[Anonymous]

Also go to serviceacademyforums.com for a great resource.

It is more competitive to get into the SLE so your DS has a leg up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

Did your DC participate in varsity athletics at TJ? My TJ DS is interested in the academies. He attended the Summer Experience at West Point and enjoyed it but was a bit intimidated when he found out every attendee participated in varsity sports, usually multiple sports, and were even captains of their teams.

I am the PP. Yes my son did one varsity sport and he was a captain. But, as you know, TJ sports are a mixed bag -. But the other two TJ kids who also went to USMA with him did not - one played a club sport and one played JV only. TJ kids with high scores can get a letter of assurance from West Point summer before senior year - then they just need to pass physical, pass fitness test (toughest events tend to be pull ups/push ups as form must be perfect) and nomination. There are local groups that run a fitness program - they were great. . I worried a bit about my son at Beast barracks/field training but he has been great.

Best of luck to your DS - mine is thriving at USMA and TJ set him up for academic success therefore sure.

Different poster. The perception of a student at the academies is of a 3 sport varsity athlete, captain, and literal and figurative Boy Scout. In reality it's the brainiac STEM majors and cyber nerds who the service academy most covets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are "prestigious" only if you are poor or middle class OP.

Mmmm. No.

The scions of the southern gentry and the blue bloods of the NÉ corridor have for generations made USMA a stop along the way before assuming Daddy’s mantle.

This hasn't been the case for quite some time.

I asked my son, in his Yuk (sophomore) year at USMA - he estimated that 20% of the cadets had a parent attend, more like 50% any relative (for him, great grandfather) ,and more like 75% total have a parent/relative who served.

Though the numbers I've observed are lower, there does seem to be a "legacy" factor in admissions.

Agree. Also just navigating the process with an experienced parent is an advantage - particularly for the physical and fitness test. Though there was a strong recruitment at my kid's high school (TJ)'and local program to train for fitness test unusual events.

What do you mean by "strong recruitment" at TJ?

If your child attends the Service academy presentation/visit at TJ or reaches out, there is a liaison officer who works with them individually to navigate the admissions and nominations process. The academies love TJ - they get a few grads each year.Most TJ kids way exceed the academic requirements so need to concentrate on the nomination, physical and fitness test. It is a great resource and the liaison officer meets up with the TJ cadets a few times a year after they are enrolled.

Did your DC participate in varsity athletics at TJ? My TJ DS is interested in the academies. He attended the Summer Experience at West Point and enjoyed it but was a bit intimidated when he found out every attendee participated in varsity sports, usually multiple sports, and were even captains of their teams.

I am the PP. Yes my son did one varsity sport and he was a captain. But, as you know, TJ sports are a mixed bag -. But the other two TJ kids who also went to USMA with him did not - one played a club sport and one played JV only. TJ kids with high scores can get a letter of assurance from West Point summer before senior year - then they just need to pass physical, pass fitness test (toughest events tend to be pull ups/push ups as form must be perfect) and nomination. There are local groups that run a fitness program - they were great. . I worried a bit about my son at Beast barracks/field training but he has been great.

Best of luck to your DS - mine is thriving at USMA and TJ set him up for academic success therefore sure.

Different poster. The perception of a student at the academies is of a 3 sport varsity athlete, captain, and literal and figurative Boy Scout. In reality it's the brainiac STEM majors and cyber nerds who the service academy most covets.

Unless they're 300 pound potato chip eating fat bodies that can't road march or do a pull-up.