considering there are 8 schools in question, you're essentially saying that easily over 50% of the class is some Ivy legacy? That's so far off the mark. |
When you count both parents it's very much the case at in my kids' classes at NCS and STA. Especially STA. I'm not as familiar with Sidwell or GDS. |
Assuming your 6-7x figure remains accurate, x is still a very tiny number so the vast majority of legacies aren't getting admitted anyway. The ones that do still need to have the goods. |
And they get a thumb on the scale for an equally qualified applicant. |
Maybe not 50% but probably at least a third especially if you count grad school. If you count grad school I definitely would say a third. |
Just as a refresher the original claim is that each of the 8 schools has 10-20% of the class as a legacy. Not 10-20% legacy at all 8 schools as a whole but 10-20% legacy at each of the individual schools |
Well that claim seems ludicrous, because it means that up to 160% of parents graduated from an Ivy league school. |
even the 1/3 number after taking into account grad school seems ambitious. maybe as a high water mark, but on a consistent basis year in and year out? yes there are plenty of graduates in the DC area, but we're talking about only 8 schools. I get the narrative is that everyone is a legacy and that's so damaging to college admissions but it seems highly improbable that say 5-7 privates schools in DC have this kind of representation every year. |
My kids are at the cathedral schools and of their closest 5 friends (5 each for each of my kids) every kid is an ivy legacy. We are not. But it's very, very common. Also, their friends are not the kids of VIPs or super wealthy families. Just a normal cross section. |
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The legacy tip varies at each school -- e.g., Brown and Princeton (decent tip for already qualified students) v. Yale and UChicago (not so much).
With regard to admissions, I've been told by someone who works in admissions that at schools like HYPS a donation has to be $10 million or more to move the needle at all. |
| There are plenty of Big 3 and DMV private school parents who are Ivy League alumni and give in the 10 million dollar range |
I feel like the 34 ACT should be weighted more if the 3.1 is from NCS. After All, isn't a 34/36 PROOF that the kid is well educated and Mastered Most of the material she was required to learn in HS. OK< maybe her writing wasn't as stellar as her classmates over the past 30 years ( average NCS teacher has been reading the papers of Rhodes Scholars to be... for decades Perhaps go to Tulane for a year - Rock it with Straight A's ( easy enough after being shot out of the NCS pressure chamber) and then transfer as a Soph/ Junior to the University your girl is actually a match for |
Well, argue all you want but if you are a parent of a kid at STA and you have been in this community for 14 years ( since Pre-K @ BVR) then, yes, you know your fellow parents quite well and a vast majority have become friends over the past Decade + People are understated and don't brag about where they went to college or law school partly because EVERYONE who has reached a certain level of success in Washington has followed the same trajectory: Harvard or Yale law, followed by clerkship at SCOTUS... or Stanford followed by Silicon Valley start up followed by.... or son of a US Senator followed by STA then Yale , then Harvard Law then children to STA/NCS while you are VP... Just from talking to my fellow parents on the sidelines of soccer practice in Pre-K , most went to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, met in Law school and settled in DC because their Dad or their Mom helped them get a top job in Gov following law school - like clerking at SCOTUS |
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In fact, in DC's graduating class at STA I know 4 parents out of a class of 80 boys ( both moms and dads ) who clerked at SCOTUS after Harvard Law. And those are just the ones I know. I'm sure there are more.
If you think about the fact that there are only 9 Justices at SCOTUS and that is 9 clerks a year- think about how 4 end up as parents with kids in same graduating class. Then there is the Federal Bench ( District Court for DC ) which has several STA parents .... just sayin' NO - its not as unimaginable as PP claims that this simply isn't true |
These people leave a larger than life impression on you. But I've been at a Big-3 for over a decade as a parent with three children, and there are many, many families whose parents did not go to Ivy-league schools or even have graduate degrees. They are still by-and-large very wealthy with parental help and trust funds, but you are exaggerating when you claim that "most" went to HYP. The percentage is high, especially relative to the larger population, but in reality closer to the 10-20% that PP mentioned. |