Average American woman - new study

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Anonymous wrote:McDonald's no longer has a $1 menu.

McDonald's no longer sells salads.

And people will still gladly spend more money on this garbage. You can get a 42oz container or oats for 2.79, 30 servings.

That breaks down to 9 cents per serving. But people will would rather pay $5 for a sausage eggs and cheese biscuits at the driv thru, whether they are short on money or not.

Because it tastes good and gives people a moment of happiness in their miserable lives.
I find it so much easier to live a healthy lifestyle when I'm happier. When things are tough, I eat garbage and waste my money. If people weren't so broke and depressed, it would be easier to make better decisions.

All of those things, plus sleep. Sleep deprivation to me should be at the top of the list as a major cause of obesity.

THIS!


I spent most of my life in the normal weight range for my height. In my 30s I gained weight due to the transition from a more active student lifestyle to sit at a desk for 10-12 hours daily in a chronic high stress legal career.

However it was when I experienced a hard onset of perimenopause following removal of one whole and part of another ovary that I very quickly spiraled into obesity. After years of getting poor advice from physicians, I finally got on HRT about six months ago and the changes in my body are remarkable. I know now that I wasn’t sleeping well at all from the nighttime hot flushes/sweats and so besides coping with the huge drop in estrogen my body had been experiencing very elevated cortisol from chronic lack of restful sleep.

I’ve lost ten pounds already which doesn’t seem much except it happened with zero other lifestyle changes. After a few months of really good sleep and much improved hormone profile, I am now able to exercise more than I could for years when the perimenopausal symptoms and chronic sleep deprivation were kicking my rear. My hunger is also entirely different now that I’m well rested again, so eating healthy foods in reasonable quantities is no longer a battle.


It’s so easy for folks who have different genetics and different life circumstances to point fingers and call the overweight/obese lazy gluttons. It’s a ridiculous assertion when SEVENTY PERCENT of the population is overweight/obese - we are not all lazy undisciplined people. I grew up working class, started working at the age of 12 and was full time by 17 and worked full time as I put myself through 4 university degree programs including a law degree. These are not the actions of a lazy undisciplined person! I didn’t wake up at 40 and suddenly become a lazy person; I woke up at 40 and my body was enduring an onslaught of toxic elevated hormones and because our medical system is subpar it took years for me to get the treatment I needed to rectify that situation and give myself a reasonable chance to get back to a normal weight. Willpower is simply no match for hormones, and never has been. Same reason that half of all pregnancies are unplanned. Human beings are just animals and our hormones control our actions a whole lot more than the self righteous among us would care to admit.

I have tons (pun intended) of empathy for overweight/obese people now that I honestly didn’t have all the years I was trim without thinking about it or working for it. I know who I am and how strong a person I am. But I am not stronger than the effect of hormones on my brain.

Disgusts me to see all the judgmental comments. Some small part of me can’t help but hope such people experience a health issues that teaches them just how not in control of their bodies they actually are when biology comes up against their self righteous notions of willpower.

Standing ovation for me. My experience mirrors yours and makes me want to discuss HRT with my doctor. I haven't slept well in years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

I'm from a country with a very light blue indicator.

Even if you’re from Italy, which appears to have the lowest incidence of obesity, you’re still from a country with almost half the population overweight and 1 in 5 obese.

Stop trying to act like you’re damn superior to everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:American women are short, fat and unattractive due to their obesity.

We didn't need a 12 page thread to state the obvi.

Hey, don’t bring height into this! Us shorties can’t help it

- Someone who is really 5’3.5’’ but who pretends to be 5’4’’ so I don’t feel like too much of a munchkin

Yeah! I'm short too. It's my genetics. Don't be racist. But I'm average weight. Not that I care about the weight of others. I don't really care how much you all weigh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

I'm from a country with a very light blue indicator.

Even if you’re from Italy, which appears to have the lowest incidence of obesity, you’re still from a country with almost half the population overweight and 1 in 5 obese.

Stop trying to act like you’re damn superior to everyone.

So basically the whole world is fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

I'm from a country with a very light blue indicator.

NO ONE CARES

[Anonymous]

I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

That's an interesting perspective. I can imagine that it's tough to find candidates that come even close to meeting those standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average American woman is fat and obese. We know.

I other news, water is wet.

It's no wonder why men of all races (except for Asian men) almost unanimously find Asian women the most attractive. Maybe it is simply because on average, they are way less fat.

The vanity sizing in the west is laughable. A 'small' here really means you are probably a L to XL in Asian clothing if you've ever been shopping in a city like Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, or Seoul.

Cite?

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

American men, who are short and fat too. I'm a tall European and we all marry other tall Europeans or tall American WASPs. We're pretty much all in shape.

Europe is very different than the US, a melting pot. Europe also doesn't have *as* many obese people. Even so, Europeans aren't "all pretty much in shape", certainly better than the US, but not definitely not "all".

I'm from a country with a very light blue indicator.

oh yea, well, I'm from a country with about a 5% obesity rate, so there! LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

But isn't the problem just that the Marines are applying BMI to people it doesn't really apply to (those with a really high muscle mass)? It doesn't sound like any of the women you are talking about are actually overweight/obese.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

DP.. muscle weighs more than fat, so they shouldn't just look at weight alone, but overall fitness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

DP.. muscle weighs more than fat, so they shouldn't just look at weight alone, but overall fitness.

THis is such a stupid statement. No, muscle does not weigh more than fat. Do you really think that a pound of muscle is different than a pound of fat? Which weighs more, a ton of lead or a ton of feathers?

Muscle fiber is more dense, but it weighs the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American women are short, fat and unattractive due to their obesity.

We didn't need a 12 page thread to state the obvi.

Hey, don’t bring height into this! Us shorties can’t help it

- Someone who is really 5’3.5’’ but who pretends to be 5’4’’ so I don’t feel like too much of a munchkin

Yeah! I'm short too. It's my genetics. Don't be racist. But I'm average weight. Not that I care about the weight of others. I don't really care how much you all weigh.

I'm short too, but how is it racist for people to make fun of height?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

DP.. muscle weighs more than fat, so they shouldn't just look at weight alone, but overall fitness.

If you look at the links, they do. There are some standard fitness requirements in there — 10 minute mile, certain number of push ups, certain number of crunches, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an acitve duty Marine and I'll tell you it is a big problem in the military. Our physical fitness requirements are hard physically and demand a high ratio of muscle to fat, but it is practically impossible to have that and weigh within our standards. Most of the Marines I know who are women ride the top of their weight limit and even barely making weight, they look like supermodels compared to the women we see in the civilian world. The Marine Corps has the toughest standards and is least likely to change them, but across the board, services are going to have to look at what they can do to recruit and retain a military that is fit with the Americans we have available.

Interesting. I just looked up the weight charts for the Marine Corps and, assuming they’re correct, for a woman of my height I would have to be between 110 and 146 lbs. I’m well within that, and am not at all underweight (I’m 122 lbs). It’s sad that it’s difficult to find people who can fit that requirement.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weight-rules.html

Assuming these physical fitness requirements are accurate, they honestly seem pretty reasonable: https://www.military.com/military-fitness/marine-corps-fitness-requirements/usmc-physical-fitness-test

These seem very reasonable. For my height, I'm right smack in the middle of the weight standard. I could do most of the fitness requirements right now for my age bracket. I don't consider myself particularly fit - just reasonably fit in a three times a week gym class kind of way with some outdoor activities on the side.