What would cause someone from a normal background to become a religious zealot?

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Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true?

Another deflection. Answer the question. If you’ve dismissed religion and hate some of it (esp. Christianity), why keep coming here to trash it? A mentally healthy person would just move on to something like the Pet or Real Estate forum.

I should have said DP.

So what’s the deal? Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that the PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true? Or maybe you heard voices

I’m not the pp speculating about your mom, but here you are speculating that I’m schizophrenic. Pot meet kettle.

I’m just back after a week-long break from DCUM, and before that a break of several months. Yet nothing has changed in that time. Maybe pointing out how sad it is that you’re still here, still posting all day, will help you get some self-awareness? Or maybe self-awareness is something that eludes you.

You’re conflating posters. Like I said, I’m a DP.

If you were gone so much, how do you know the PP was here 24x7? Or is that just something you believe?

Because this forum has had a pair of trolls for forever. Nothing has changed over the months I’ve been gone. Yeah, maybe one or both of you occasionally takes a vacation. But your posting is generally relentless—which is super-hard to explain for someone who professes not to care about religion.

So answer the question: why are you hear 24/7?

Just to be clear: there are some thoughtful atheists here and I’m not referring to them. They also aren’t obsessed,

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Anonymous wrote:Usually if these are men, they have bad and neglectful mothers growing up. Many times their moms also has a substance abuse problem, were abusive and openly promiscuous.

Really? You went the "you're mom's a ho" route? How very christian of you.

I actually think you are not a real christian, and maybe just trying to make them look bad. If so, mission accomplished.

DP. Yep. This is probably the same pp who thinks the only reason people could possibly go to church is for free daycare—same writing style. And who is childishly obsessing about hearing voices and ruling out the supernatural even in cases like Paul’s.

I posted about the free childcare. It’s the only post I made on this thread. I’m actually Catholic, but we switched to a mega-church when the kids were really little. Someone invited us once, and we felt so free that we stopped going to mass for over a year. When you have four kids under six, childcare is real.

Anyway, everyone there talked like this with the being washed in the blood, etc. it was weird as sh!t (I say this as someone who recently attended a service where a grown, well-respected man solemnly held a shepherd’s crook and wore a giant hat while rubbing oil into people’s eyes, lips, hands, and feet). I can see how you get sucked in.

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Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true?

Another deflection. Answer the question. If you’ve dismissed religion and hate some of it (esp. Christianity), why keep coming here to trash it? A mentally healthy person would just move on to something like the Pet or Real Estate forum.

I should have said DP.

So what’s the deal? Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that the PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true? Or maybe you heard voices

I’m not the pp speculating about your mom, but here you are speculating that I’m schizophrenic. Pot meet kettle.

I’m just back after a week-long break from DCUM, and before that a break of several months. Yet nothing has changed in that time. Maybe pointing out how sad it is that you’re still here, still posting all day, will help you get some self-awareness? Or maybe self-awareness is something that eludes you.

You’re conflating posters. Like I said, I’m a DP.

If you were gone so much, how do you know the PP was here 24x7? Or is that just something you believe?

Because this forum has had a pair of trolls for forever. Nothing has changed over the months I’ve been gone. Yeah, maybe one or both of you occasionally takes a vacation. But your posting is generally relentless—which is super-hard to explain for someone who professes not to care about religion.

So answer the question: why are you hear 24/7?

Just to be clear: there are some thoughtful atheists here and I’m not referring to them. They also aren’t obsessed,

Again, you are conflating posters. I'm not here 24x7 and have only posted a few times.

If you're having trouble following then maybe it's time for you to go back on break. 'Bye!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you hear voices, you’re nuts.

If you believe other people when they tell you they hear voices, you’re…a believer?

^^ atheist demonstrating ignorance about prophets

I guess it could be a drug-related hallucination and not mental illness.

So, if you hear voices you are either nuts or stoned.

And if you believe people when they tell you they hear voices, you’re…. a believer?

You rule out the supernatural explanations—that’s your problem right there. You seem simple-minded.

Sorry, I don't believe in ghosts.

[Anonymous]

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Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true?

Another deflection. Answer the question. If you’ve dismissed religion and hate some of it (esp. Christianity), why keep coming here to trash it? A mentally healthy person would just move on to something like the Pet or Real Estate forum.

I should have said DP.

So what’s the deal? Are you here 24x7 monitoring?

Evidence that the PP is here 24x7?

Or did someone tell you that and you just believe it to be true? Or maybe you heard voices

I’m not the pp speculating about your mom, but here you are speculating that I’m schizophrenic. Pot meet kettle.

I’m just back after a week-long break from DCUM, and before that a break of several months. Yet nothing has changed in that time. Maybe pointing out how sad it is that you’re still here, still posting all day, will help you get some self-awareness? Or maybe self-awareness is something that eludes you.

You’re conflating posters. Like I said, I’m a DP.

If you were gone so much, how do you know the PP was here 24x7? Or is that just something you believe?

Because this forum has had a pair of trolls for forever. Nothing has changed over the months I’ve been gone. Yeah, maybe one or both of you occasionally takes a vacation. But your posting is generally relentless—which is super-hard to explain for someone who professes not to care about religion.

So answer the question: why are you hear 24/7?

Just to be clear: there are some thoughtful atheists here and I’m not referring to them. They also aren’t obsessed,

To clarify -- an atheist is someone who does not believe in God. They may or may not care about religion.

Also, please keep in mind that some people who profess to be religious, don't care about religion very much, or maybe not at all. They may simply identify with a certain religion and/or practice it out of habit or for reasons (i.e., business, family) unrelated to religious belief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my experience, a lot of people who are just mediocre and overlooked elsewhere, find acceptance and the ability to “be somebody” at church.

Like, you don’t need any special skills or talents or intelligence - you just need to be able to praise the Lord/Allah/whomever you believe to be the supreme being. And it’s basically a ready made community.

Correct. Happens to the stupid people who feel like failures elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Can we get back to the question I am still mystified by and no one has answered?

How can you reliably tell the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is genuinely hearing the voice of a deity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Many atheists that I know are not miserable and don't think religion is a "pack of lies" (some moral beliefs of various religions are universal), Many were once religious believers themselves and have many friends and family who still are.

Please consider turning your questions around to yourself: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the question I am still mystified by and no one has answered?

How can you reliably tell the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is genuinely hearing the voice of a deity?

Sure. Just as soon as you answer the question that was asked first, about why some of you are on here 24/7.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Many atheists that I know are not miserable and don't think religion is a "pack of lies" (some moral beliefs of various religions are universal), Many were once religious believers themselves and have many friends and family who still are.

Please consider turning your questions around to yourself: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

Nobody’s talking about all atheists, that’s a straw man. We all know happy, respectful atheists. We’re talking about the 2-3 atheists who spend their days trolling DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you hear voices, you’re nuts.

If you believe other people when they tell you they hear voices, you’re…a believer?

^^ atheist demonstrating ignorance about prophets

I guess it could be a drug-related hallucination and not mental illness.

So, if you hear voices you are either nuts or stoned.

And if you believe people when they tell you they hear voices, you’re…. a believer?

You rule out the supernatural explanations—that’s your problem right there. You seem simple-minded.

Sorry, I don't believe in ghosts.

The whole point of faith is that there’s something outside ourselves. You can rule it out for yourself, but you can’t rule it out for others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my experience, a lot of people who are just mediocre and overlooked elsewhere, find acceptance and the ability to “be somebody” at church.

Like, you don’t need any special skills or talents or intelligence - you just need to be able to praise the Lord/Allah/whomever you believe to be the supreme being. And it’s basically a ready made community.

Correct. Happens to the stupid people who feel like failures elsewhere.

What a load of self-serving BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Many atheists that I know are not miserable and don't think religion is a "pack of lies" (some moral beliefs of various religions are universal), Many were once religious believers themselves and have many friends and family who still are.

Please consider turning your questions around to yourself: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

Nobody’s talking about all atheists, that’s a straw man. We all know happy, respectful atheists. We’re talking about the 2-3 atheists who spend their days trolling DCUM.

Pp may call atheists who come to the religion forum "trolls" but that doesn't make them so. Also, "we" all probably don't know "happy, respectful" atheists, because there may be some of us who don't know if any of the people of our acquaintance are atheists. Some atheists are very quiet about their lack of belief, not openly expressing it, or only expressing it anonymously, for instance, her on DCUM.

And the questions stand: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Many atheists that I know are not miserable and don't think religion is a "pack of lies" (some moral beliefs of various religions are universal), Many were once religious believers themselves and have many friends and family who still are.

Please consider turning your questions around to yourself: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

Nobody’s talking about all atheists, that’s a straw man. We all know happy, respectful atheists. We’re talking about the 2-3 atheists who spend their days trolling DCUM.

Seems like you’re the only one who cares about that. If you don’t have anything meaningful to add to the actual topic then maybe you should sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Your refusal to answer this question about your 24/7 trolling on DCUM suggests you don’t have any reason other than generally being miserable/isolation/no real hobbies. Prove this wrong!

Some atheists, like some religious people are interested in the subject of religion. In fact, in some cases, it was their interest in religion that eventually encouraged them to become atheists.

Reading factual information about the Bible, and how other religions began has caused some people to change their beliefs. Some people never believed, even though raised in a religion and other people came to religion later in life after not being raised with a religion.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for religious believers only, or for a certain religion only, but rather it is a forum about religion.

You still won’t answer the question. Now that you’ve proven to yourself (not the same as proving to anyone else) that religion is a so-called pack of lies, why are you here 24/7 moaning about it. You’re miserable? You hate Christians?

Answer the question.

Many atheists that I know are not miserable and don't think religion is a "pack of lies" (some moral beliefs of various religions are universal), Many were once religious believers themselves and have many friends and family who still are.

Please consider turning your questions around to yourself: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

Nobody’s talking about all atheists, that’s a straw man. We all know happy, respectful atheists. We’re talking about the 2-3 atheists who spend their days trolling DCUM.

Pp may call atheists who come to the religion forum "trolls" but that doesn't make them so. Also, "we" all probably don't know "happy, respectful" atheists, because there may be some of us who don't know if any of the people of our acquaintance are atheists. Some atheists are very quiet about their lack of belief, not openly expressing it, or only expressing it anonymously, for instance, her on DCUM.

And the questions stand: Are you miserable? Do you hate atheists?

Given how belligerent that PP is I can answer for him. Yes and yes.