EVERY Six Months Jolie reiterates accusations against Pitt

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

I have several divorced friends who wish they could prevent their kids from being with an irresponsible dad. Courts won't allow it. How did Angelina prevent it?

They hired a private judge. The judge gave Brad 50/50 custody, but Angelina later had the judge disqualified from the case, rendering his decision void.

That was years ago. He can file for a new modification

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

I have several divorced friends who wish they could prevent their kids from being with an irresponsible dad. Courts won't allow it. How did Angelina prevent it?

They hired a private judge. The judge gave Brad 50/50 custody, but Angelina later had the judge disqualified from the case, rendering his decision void.

That was years ago. He can file for a new modification

He said last fall that he was no longer going to contest the custody arrangement - this may coincide with the youngest children being of an age to decide for themselves, I don't know, I don't actually keep close track.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

He’s 60 years old. The time to responsibly have children has come and gone.

That’s not for you to decide. There are Hollywood stars older than him who have recently had children. It’s not as if he can’t provide for more children.

It's not a matter of "providing."

It's not a matter for you at all. Weird that you think someone else's fertility is a matter you should concern yourself with in the first place. These people don't know or care if you exist.

If they didn't they wouldn't have made a whole announcement beforehand. His PR is insane is on overdrive

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/brad-pitt-bradley-cooper-plan-sober-hangouts-with-girlfriends/

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

I have several divorced friends who wish they could prevent their kids from being with an irresponsible dad. Courts won't allow it. How did Angelina prevent it?

They hired a private judge. The judge gave Brad 50/50 custody, but Angelina later had the judge disqualified from the case, rendering his decision void.

That was years ago. He can file for a new modification

He said last fall that he was no longer going to contest the custody arrangement - this may coincide with the youngest children being of an age to decide for themselves, I don't know, I don't actually keep close track.

He hasn't contested it since that trial. He agreed to go back to their old arrangement and hasn't filed for a new one since.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

He’s 60 years old. The time to responsibly have children has come and gone.

That’s not for you to decide. There are Hollywood stars older than him who have recently had children. It’s not as if he can’t provide for more children.

It's not a matter of "providing."

It's not a matter for you at all. Weird that you think someone else's fertility is a matter you should concern yourself with in the first place. These people don't know or care if you exist.

If they didn't they wouldn't have made a whole announcement beforehand. His PR is insane is on overdrive

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/brad-pitt-bradley-cooper-plan-sober-hangouts-with-girlfriends/

Because loons like you eat this with a spoon. You are at the bread and butter of these tabloids. Most people aren't that interested.

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On cue an Ines Backgrid pap stroll, making it very clear she's not pregnant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13530809/Brad-Pitt-girlfriend-Ines-Ramon-wants-kids.html

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

I have several divorced friends who wish they could prevent their kids from being with an irresponsible dad. Courts won't allow it. How did Angelina prevent it?

They hired a private judge. The judge gave Brad 50/50 custody, but Angelina later had the judge disqualified from the case, rendering his decision void.

That was years ago. He can file for a new modification

He said last fall that he was no longer going to contest the custody arrangement - this may coincide with the youngest children being of an age to decide for themselves, I don't know, I don't actually keep close track.

Angelina successfully ran out the clock. Her intent was to prolong the divorce for as long as possible to prevent Brad from getting any custody. Any sane woman would have agreed to a reasonable custody sharing arrangement and settled the divorce long ago. She has to be the most bitter and vindictive divorcee of all time.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

+1 As soon as he won 50-50 custody, after spending millions on legal fees, expert witnesses, and therapists, she went nuclear. Had the judge she approved abruptly removed from the case and sold Miraval to a hostile investor. She 1000% was determined to ice him out of the kids' lives and would do whatever it took. How can anyone dispute that? He wanted to be a fully involved father and she blocked him at every turn. Of course she brainwashed those kids with her perpetual narratives of victimhood ("poor, abused, fragile mommy"). She's an extraordinarily manipulative actress, obviously succeeded. Do hope some of the kids concede how hard he fought for them one day.

Angelina was dumped as a client by divorce lawyers for being so determined to go scorched earth. Even lawyers, who stood to profit from her business, could see that what she was doing was harmful to the children.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

+1 As soon as he won 50-50 custody, after spending millions on legal fees, expert witnesses, and therapists, she went nuclear. Had the judge she approved abruptly removed from the case and sold Miraval to a hostile investor. She 1000% was determined to ice him out of the kids' lives and would do whatever it took. How can anyone dispute that? He wanted to be a fully involved father and she blocked him at every turn. Of course she brainwashed those kids with her perpetual narratives of victimhood ("poor, abused, fragile mommy"). She's an extraordinarily manipulative actress, obviously succeeded. Do hope some of the kids concede how hard he fought for them one day.

Angelina was dumped as a client by divorce lawyers for being so determined to go scorched earth. Even lawyers, who stood to profit from her business, could see that what she was doing was harmful to the children.

Yeah, I knew she was the one in the wrong when Laura Wasserman dumped her @ss.

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New to this thread but how are we blaming Angelina for this?

from her cross-complaint, for visibility:

As documented in a lengthy and detailed FBI report, Pitt’s aggressive behavior started even before the family got to the airport, with Pitt having a confrontation with one of the children. After the flight took off, Jolie approached Pitt and asked him what was wrong. Pitt accused her of being too deferential to the children and verbally attacked her. An hour and a half later, Pitt abruptly walked over to Jolie, demanding, “Come here,” and directed her to the back of the plane. He pulled her into the bathroom and began yelling at her. Pitt grabbed Jolie by the head and shook her, and then grabbed her shoulders and shook her again before pushing her into the bathroom wall. Pitt then punched the ceiling of the plane numerous times, prompting Jolie to leave the bathroom. As she exited, one of their children asked, “Are you ok, mommy?” Pitt yelled back, “No, mommy’s not ok” and started deriding Jolie with insults.

When one of the children verbally defended Jolie, Pitt lunged at his own child and Jolie grabbed him from behind to stop him. To get Jolie off his back, Pitt threw himself backwards into the airplane’s seats injuring Jolie’s back and elbow. The children rushed in and all bravely tried to protect each other. Before it was over, Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.

With nowhere to go and to avoid Pitt’s wrath, Jolie and the children sat still and silent under blankets. Nobody dared to go to the bathroom. Pitt periodically emerged from the back of the plane to yell and swear at them. At one point, he poured beer on Jolie; at another, he poured beer and red wine on the children. After many tense hours, Pitt finally fellasleep.

Jolie then arranged for separate transportation at the airport. After they landed, Jolie cautioned the children that no matter what Pitt did, they should not intervene. She then went to wake Pitt up and told him that she and the children were going to a hotel. Pitt once again screamed at her, and pushed her down yet again. He shouted that nobody was getting off the plane and prevented the family from deplaning for about 20 minutes. After a child intervened and demanded to leave, Pitt finally relented. But once outside the plane door, Pitt again physically abused one of their children. He also grabbed and shook Jolie by the head and shoulders, causing one of the children to beg, “Don’t hurt her.” He let Jolie go, but then called her a “b****,” before adding, “F*** you, f*** you all.” Jolie and the children then left and made it to a hotel. Five days later—on September 19, 2016—Jolie filed for divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:Saying he's replacing his kids is your take and not at all what was said in the article.

He says he realizes his kids are lost to him. That's pretty apparent at this point. I'm no fan of his, but I feel a lot of empathy for him. It's apparent that she alienated those kids from him and has probably been doing so for a long while - long before the plane incident.

If my spouse separated me from my kid I'd be devastated. And no matter how angry/frustrated I might get with my DH sometimes, I would never badmouth him in front of our son. That relationship is much too important.

Clearly Brad left his wife for the wrong person - and he's paying dearly for that colossal mistake.

"The Bullet Train star is said to be 'on board' with starting over with de Ramon" His PR is awful and he needs a new one. This was just a retaliatory and erratic response to Shiloh and in no way beneficial to his relationship with the kids.

What do you want him to do? He’s tried to be in his kids’ lives. They don’t want a relationship with him. They are dropping his last name. You think the kids are doing the right thing by distancing themselves from him, but yet you get upset over the thought of him having a new family. You just want him to be alone and miserable. You Angeloonies can’t stand the thought of him being happy with a sane wife and loving children.

Kids aren't stupid. They saw his actions and heard his words.

Yeah, eight years ago. Normally kids would be able to forgive and forget and move past an unpleasant incident. In this case, they have a mother who is intent on reliving that incident for eight years and insists on portraying herself as a perpetual abuse victim.

If the courts allowed them to be with him, then he had plenty of chances to demonstrate his mature, loving, paternal self.

They lived with a mother who was bad mouthing him to them every day. She went out of her way to alienate him from the children.

So many kids today have been through very hostile breakups and divorces. It's heartbreaking. Nevertheless, kids can hear, observe, and process what's going on. Kids can see through the cr#@!p. If you're an abusive parents eith alcohol and/or drug issues, they see that, too. Kids don't change their last names just because one parent is negative about the ex.

I mean, yes, of course they do.

Not kids with average or above average intelligence who have interactions with both parents. If a parent is abusive, vindictive, gets drunk, commits adultery, etc, kids note that behavior; and that parent needs to grow up and act like a mature adult..

Nowadays, the default in divorce is shared or split or 50-50 custody. Generally a parent only has sole custody when the other parent opts out. Here though, the father wanted to be a part of the children's lives but was prevented. Not by the court but by the mother. That seems difficult for you to imagine, maybe because it's so strange?

I have several divorced friends who wish they could prevent their kids from being with an irresponsible dad. Courts won't allow it. How did Angelina prevent it?

They hired a private judge. The judge gave Brad 50/50 custody, but Angelina later had the judge disqualified from the case, rendering his decision void.

That was years ago. He can file for a new modification

He said last fall that he was no longer going to contest the custody arrangement - this may coincide with the youngest children being of an age to decide for themselves, I don't know, I don't actually keep close track.

Angelina successfully ran out the clock. Her intent was to prolong the divorce for as long as possible to prevent Brad from getting any custody. Any sane woman would have agreed to a reasonable custody sharing arrangement and settled the divorce long ago. She has to be the most bitter and vindictive divorcee of all time.

Literally nothing was stopping him from filing a new custody battle. He didn't want the kids to have separate plans. His fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but how are we blaming Angelina for this?

from her cross-complaint, for visibility:

As documented in a lengthy and detailed FBI report, Pitt’s aggressive behavior started even before the family got to the airport, with Pitt having a confrontation with one of the children. After the flight took off, Jolie approached Pitt and asked him what was wrong. Pitt accused her of being too deferential to the children and verbally attacked her. An hour and a half later, Pitt abruptly walked over to Jolie, demanding, “Come here,” and directed her to the back of the plane. He pulled her into the bathroom and began yelling at her. Pitt grabbed Jolie by the head and shook her, and then grabbed her shoulders and shook her again before pushing her into the bathroom wall. Pitt then punched the ceiling of the plane numerous times, prompting Jolie to leave the bathroom. As she exited, one of their children asked, “Are you ok, mommy?” Pitt yelled back, “No, mommy’s not ok” and started deriding Jolie with insults.

When one of the children verbally defended Jolie, Pitt lunged at his own child and Jolie grabbed him from behind to stop him. To get Jolie off his back, Pitt threw himself backwards into the airplane’s seats injuring Jolie’s back and elbow. The children rushed in and all bravely tried to protect each other. Before it was over, Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.

With nowhere to go and to avoid Pitt’s wrath, Jolie and the children sat still and silent under blankets. Nobody dared to go to the bathroom. Pitt periodically emerged from the back of the plane to yell and swear at them. At one point, he poured beer on Jolie; at another, he poured beer and red wine on the children. After many tense hours, Pitt finally fellasleep.

Jolie then arranged for separate transportation at the airport. After they landed, Jolie cautioned the children that no matter what Pitt did, they should not intervene. She then went to wake Pitt up and told him that she and the children were going to a hotel. Pitt once again screamed at her, and pushed her down yet again. He shouted that nobody was getting off the plane and prevented the family from deplaning for about 20 minutes. After a child intervened and demanded to leave, Pitt finally relented. But once outside the plane door, Pitt again physically abused one of their children. He also grabbed and shook Jolie by the head and shoulders, causing one of the children to beg, “Don’t hurt her.” He let Jolie go, but then called her a “b****,” before adding, “F*** you, f*** you all.” Jolie and the children then left and made it to a hotel. Five days later—on September 19, 2016—Jolie filed for divorce.

Because they're one of those poor pitt fans He can do no wrong. He never had a chance to parent, he should replace his kids, there is nothing wrong with his PR.

Not all of them are like them. I follow some great ones who agree his PR team is insane and isn't helping his position at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but how are we blaming Angelina for this?

from her cross-complaint, for visibility:

As documented in a lengthy and detailed FBI report, Pitt’s aggressive behavior started even before the family got to the airport, with Pitt having a confrontation with one of the children. After the flight took off, Jolie approached Pitt and asked him what was wrong. Pitt accused her of being too deferential to the children and verbally attacked her. An hour and a half later, Pitt abruptly walked over to Jolie, demanding, “Come here,” and directed her to the back of the plane. He pulled her into the bathroom and began yelling at her. Pitt grabbed Jolie by the head and shook her, and then grabbed her shoulders and shook her again before pushing her into the bathroom wall. Pitt then punched the ceiling of the plane numerous times, prompting Jolie to leave the bathroom. As she exited, one of their children asked, “Are you ok, mommy?” Pitt yelled back, “No, mommy’s not ok” and started deriding Jolie with insults.

When one of the children verbally defended Jolie, Pitt lunged at his own child and Jolie grabbed him from behind to stop him. To get Jolie off his back, Pitt threw himself backwards into the airplane’s seats injuring Jolie’s back and elbow. The children rushed in and all bravely tried to protect each other. Before it was over, Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.

With nowhere to go and to avoid Pitt’s wrath, Jolie and the children sat still and silent under blankets. Nobody dared to go to the bathroom. Pitt periodically emerged from the back of the plane to yell and swear at them. At one point, he poured beer on Jolie; at another, he poured beer and red wine on the children. After many tense hours, Pitt finally fellasleep.

Jolie then arranged for separate transportation at the airport. After they landed, Jolie cautioned the children that no matter what Pitt did, they should not intervene. She then went to wake Pitt up and told him that she and the children were going to a hotel. Pitt once again screamed at her, and pushed her down yet again. He shouted that nobody was getting off the plane and prevented the family from deplaning for about 20 minutes. After a child intervened and demanded to leave, Pitt finally relented. But once outside the plane door, Pitt again physically abused one of their children. He also grabbed and shook Jolie by the head and shoulders, causing one of the children to beg, “Don’t hurt her.” He let Jolie go, but then called her a “b****,” before adding, “F*** you, f*** you all.” Jolie and the children then left and made it to a hotel. Five days later—on September 19, 2016—Jolie filed for divorce.

Yes, it was horrible on his part. But it was one incident in the throes of alcohol. EIGHT years ago. The kids could have gotten well past it had she allowed and encouraged them to. Her first interest was not their well-being but her own selfish need to be the victim and center of every narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but how are we blaming Angelina for this?

from her cross-complaint, for visibility:

As documented in a lengthy and detailed FBI report, Pitt’s aggressive behavior started even before the family got to the airport, with Pitt having a confrontation with one of the children. After the flight took off, Jolie approached Pitt and asked him what was wrong. Pitt accused her of being too deferential to the children and verbally attacked her. An hour and a half later, Pitt abruptly walked over to Jolie, demanding, “Come here,” and directed her to the back of the plane. He pulled her into the bathroom and began yelling at her. Pitt grabbed Jolie by the head and shook her, and then grabbed her shoulders and shook her again before pushing her into the bathroom wall. Pitt then punched the ceiling of the plane numerous times, prompting Jolie to leave the bathroom. As she exited, one of their children asked, “Are you ok, mommy?” Pitt yelled back, “No, mommy’s not ok” and started deriding Jolie with insults.

When one of the children verbally defended Jolie, Pitt lunged at his own child and Jolie grabbed him from behind to stop him. To get Jolie off his back, Pitt threw himself backwards into the airplane’s seats injuring Jolie’s back and elbow. The children rushed in and all bravely tried to protect each other. Before it was over, Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.

With nowhere to go and to avoid Pitt’s wrath, Jolie and the children sat still and silent under blankets. Nobody dared to go to the bathroom. Pitt periodically emerged from the back of the plane to yell and swear at them. At one point, he poured beer on Jolie; at another, he poured beer and red wine on the children. After many tense hours, Pitt finally fellasleep.

Jolie then arranged for separate transportation at the airport. After they landed, Jolie cautioned the children that no matter what Pitt did, they should not intervene. She then went to wake Pitt up and told him that she and the children were going to a hotel. Pitt once again screamed at her, and pushed her down yet again. He shouted that nobody was getting off the plane and prevented the family from deplaning for about 20 minutes. After a child intervened and demanded to leave, Pitt finally relented. But once outside the plane door, Pitt again physically abused one of their children. He also grabbed and shook Jolie by the head and shoulders, causing one of the children to beg, “Don’t hurt her.” He let Jolie go, but then called her a “b****,” before adding, “F*** you, f*** you all.” Jolie and the children then left and made it to a hotel. Five days later—on September 19, 2016—Jolie filed for divorce.

Because they're one of those poor pitt fans He can do no wrong. He never had a chance to parent, he should replace his kids, there is nothing wrong with his PR.

Not all of them are like them. I follow some great ones who agree his PR team is insane and isn't helping his position at all.

His position is fine. Her position, not so much. He's not exactly at risk of anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread but how are we blaming Angelina for this?

from her cross-complaint, for visibility:

As documented in a lengthy and detailed FBI report, Pitt’s aggressive behavior started even before the family got to the airport, with Pitt having a confrontation with one of the children. After the flight took off, Jolie approached Pitt and asked him what was wrong. Pitt accused her of being too deferential to the children and verbally attacked her. An hour and a half later, Pitt abruptly walked over to Jolie, demanding, “Come here,” and directed her to the back of the plane. He pulled her into the bathroom and began yelling at her. Pitt grabbed Jolie by the head and shook her, and then grabbed her shoulders and shook her again before pushing her into the bathroom wall. Pitt then punched the ceiling of the plane numerous times, prompting Jolie to leave the bathroom. As she exited, one of their children asked, “Are you ok, mommy?” Pitt yelled back, “No, mommy’s not ok” and started deriding Jolie with insults.

When one of the children verbally defended Jolie, Pitt lunged at his own child and Jolie grabbed him from behind to stop him. To get Jolie off his back, Pitt threw himself backwards into the airplane’s seats injuring Jolie’s back and elbow. The children rushed in and all bravely tried to protect each other. Before it was over, Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.

With nowhere to go and to avoid Pitt’s wrath, Jolie and the children sat still and silent under blankets. Nobody dared to go to the bathroom. Pitt periodically emerged from the back of the plane to yell and swear at them. At one point, he poured beer on Jolie; at another, he poured beer and red wine on the children. After many tense hours, Pitt finally fellasleep.

Jolie then arranged for separate transportation at the airport. After they landed, Jolie cautioned the children that no matter what Pitt did, they should not intervene. She then went to wake Pitt up and told him that she and the children were going to a hotel. Pitt once again screamed at her, and pushed her down yet again. He shouted that nobody was getting off the plane and prevented the family from deplaning for about 20 minutes. After a child intervened and demanded to leave, Pitt finally relented. But once outside the plane door, Pitt again physically abused one of their children. He also grabbed and shook Jolie by the head and shoulders, causing one of the children to beg, “Don’t hurt her.” He let Jolie go, but then called her a “b****,” before adding, “F*** you, f*** you all.” Jolie and the children then left and made it to a hotel. Five days later—on September 19, 2016—Jolie filed for divorce.

Because they're one of those poor pitt fans He can do no wrong. He never had a chance to parent, he should replace his kids, there is nothing wrong with his PR.

Not all of them are like them. I follow some great ones who agree his PR team is insane and isn't helping his position at all.

His position is fine. Her position, not so much. He's not exactly at risk of anything.

When his own fan accounts are calling it out then no his position isn't fine.