Hearst Playground story in Current

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because of what happened at Turtle Park, Cheh is jamming the pool down Hearst's throat.

You mean that people didn't want other facilities at Turtle Park to be paved over for a pool?

They way residents in Massachusetts Heights didn't want a 6 story homeless shelter right next door?

Cheh always kowtows to the first squeaky wheels, and then gets frustrated, digs in and jams projects down the throats of her less favored precincts.

Many people in AU Park wanted the pool at Turtle. The baseball mafia had more sway with DGS.

It is only the selfish immediate Hearst people (who would benefit the most) who are fighting this. The NW Current article indicated over 75% of the people want the pool. If Cheh can bring it home, she will be seen as a hero.

"75 percent" according to a ridiculously flawed, manipulated "survey," with weaknesses that several others have pointed out. Even the Kremlin runs more honest polling.

As for sports mafias, Stoddert soccer opposes any pool that would impact the soccer field. Thousands of kids in Upper NW play soccer, and many of their teams play at Hearst. Their parents vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because of what happened at Turtle Park, Cheh is jamming the pool down Hearst's throat.

You mean that people didn't want other facilities at Turtle Park to be paved over for a pool?

They way residents in Massachusetts Heights didn't want a 6 story homeless shelter right next door?

Cheh always kowtows to the first squeaky wheels, and then gets frustrated, digs in and jams projects down the throats of her less favored precincts.

Many people in AU Park wanted the pool at Turtle. The baseball mafia had more sway with DGS.

It is only the selfish immediate Hearst people (who would benefit the most) who are fighting this. The NW Current article indicated over 75% of the people want the pool. If Cheh can bring it home, she will be seen as a hero.

To Cleveland Park residents, Cheh is more of a goat for lots of reasons. They despise her.

[Anonymous]

Murch parent here who would like to see a Ward 3 pool. However, I was talking last week with my neighbor (geological engineer) who said he's familiar with the topography and hydrology of the Hearst area. He said he's almost certain they'll have to find another pool site once the hydrology studies are completed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murch parent here who would like to see a Ward 3 pool. However, I was talking last week with my neighbor (geological engineer) who said he's familiar with the topography and hydrology of the Hearst area. He said he's almost certain they'll have to find another pool site once the hydrology studies are completed.

Completely believable. It's just astounding to me that they would go through all of this bullshit without doing basic suitability studies first. What's the saying, "I'm shocked but not surprised"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because of what happened at Turtle Park, Cheh is jamming the pool down Hearst's throat.

You mean that people didn't want other facilities at Turtle Park to be paved over for a pool?

They way residents in Massachusetts Heights didn't want a 6 story homeless shelter right next door?

Cheh always kowtows to the first squeaky wheels, and then gets frustrated, digs in and jams projects down the throats of her less favored precincts.

Many people in AU Park wanted the pool at Turtle. The baseball mafia had more sway with DGS.

It is only the selfish immediate Hearst people (who would benefit the most) who are fighting this. The NW Current article indicated over 75% of the people want the pool. If Cheh can bring it home, she will be seen as a hero.

"75 percent" according to a ridiculously flawed, manipulated "survey," with weaknesses that several others have pointed out. Even the Kremlin runs more honest polling.

As for sports mafias, Stoddert soccer opposes any pool that would impact the soccer field. Thousands of kids in Upper NW play soccer, and many of their teams play at Hearst. Their parents vote.

The implication of "mafia" is a tight-knit group with disproportionate influence. NWLL had 43 teams in the fall, Stoddert had 450 -- yet there are three times as many baseball fields in Ward 3 as soccer fields -- and DPR considers the baseball fields more sacrosanct than the soccer fields. Stoddert Soccer is probably the largest membership organization of any kind in Ward 3, at any given time a quarter of all kids in the ward are participants and one in ten residents of the ward is either a player or a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murch parent here who would like to see a Ward 3 pool. However, I was talking last week with my neighbor (geological engineer) who said he's familiar with the topography and hydrology of the Hearst area. He said he's almost certain they'll have to find another pool site once the hydrology studies are completed.

If the hyrdology issues were real, you wouldn't have the Sidwell gym that goes threes stories underground immediately across the street, nor would you have had the new construction at Hearst school. It is such a bogus NIMBY ploy and everyone but the people opposed to the pool see through it. The fact is, there are massive stormwater issues that need to be addressed one way or another. The presence of a pool doesn't impact those run off issues in any way, shape or form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"75 percent" according to a ridiculously flawed, manipulated "survey," with weaknesses that several others have pointed out. Even the Kremlin runs more honest polling.

As for sports mafias, Stoddert soccer opposes any pool that would impact the soccer field. Thousands of kids in Upper NW play soccer, and many of their teams play at Hearst. Their parents vote.


Yes, it is a shame that 75% support a pool even when the opponents tell their supporters to vote on multiple devices. Using your logic, or Trump logic, which is not a false equivalent in this case, it should be more like 88% or even 92% in support of a pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murch parent here who would like to see a Ward 3 pool. However, I was talking last week with my neighbor (geological engineer) who said he's familiar with the topography and hydrology of the Hearst area. He said he's almost certain they'll have to find another pool site once the hydrology studies are completed.

If the hyrdology issues were real, you wouldn't have the Sidwell gym that goes threes stories underground immediately across the street, nor would you have had the new construction at Hearst school. It is such a bogus NIMBY ploy and everyone but the people opposed to the pool see through it. The fact is, there are massive stormwater issues that need to be addressed one way or another. The presence of a pool doesn't impact those run off issues in any way, shape or form.

Most of the southern half of Hearst Park is built on loose fill over springs. There's some mapping data on a Neighbors for Hearst Park site about this. The Sidwell buildings are uphill from the park, and their construction may even have made the hydrology situation worse for the park. But that, as they say, is water under the bridge because DPR and DGS have to consider the hydrology situation now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"75 percent" according to a ridiculously flawed, manipulated "survey," with weaknesses that several others have pointed out. Even the Kremlin runs more honest polling.

As for sports mafias, Stoddert soccer opposes any pool that would impact the soccer field. Thousands of kids in Upper NW play soccer, and many of their teams play at Hearst. Their parents vote.

Yes, it is a shame that 75% support a pool even when the opponents tell their supporters to vote on multiple devices. Using your logic, or Trump logic, which is not a false equivalent in this case, it should be more like 88% or even 92% in support of a pool.

Kelley-Ann, is that you? Alternative facts girl herself! Because it was the pool advocates who were advocating how to game the system. Not to mention that they had help from DGS, who clverly made everyone choose among pool alternatives even if a respondent didn't want a pool at all.

[Anonymous]

So at tonight's CPCA meeting, the pool opponents were in rare form with their alternative facts. The people are on to you people and your Trumponian ways.

It is really shameful, but it is easy for the Current reporter and DGS to set the record straight. We will see if lying about facts is the way of the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So at tonight's CPCA meeting, the pool opponents were in rare form with their alternative facts. The people are on to you people and your Trumponian ways.

It is really shameful, but it is easy for the Current reporter and DGS to set the record straight. We will see if lying about facts is the way of the future.

So, then, put the facts out for your side. Show us the environmental review for Hearst, show exactly what existing facilities will be impacted by a pool, show us the analysis of Hearst versus other possible Ward 3 locations. Oh, wait. There haven't been any such studies. It was just 'decided.'

[Anonymous]

That DC government 'poll' was laughable. And pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That DC government 'poll' was laughable. And pathetic.

The pool poll would do Putin, or at least Kelley-Ann Conway, proud: You can be for or against a pool, so long as you choose which one one of the Hearst pool design options to support. Pathetic indeed. Sad even.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murch parent here who would like to see a Ward 3 pool. However, I was talking last week with my neighbor (geological engineer) who said he's familiar with the topography and hydrology of the Hearst area. He said he's almost certain they'll have to find another pool site once the hydrology studies are completed.

If the hyrdology issues were real, you wouldn't have the Sidwell gym that goes threes stories underground immediately across the street, nor would you have had the new construction at Hearst school. It is such a bogus NIMBY ploy and everyone but the people opposed to the pool see through it. The fact is, there are massive stormwater issues that need to be addressed one way or another. The presence of a pool doesn't impact those run off issues in any way, shape or form.

Most of the southern half of Hearst Park is built on loose fill over springs. There's some mapping data on a Neighbors for Hearst Park site about this. The Sidwell buildings are uphill from the park, and their construction may even have made the hydrology situation worse for the park. But that, as they say, is water under the bridge because DPR and DGS have to consider the hydrology situation now.

We're not talking about redirecting the Mississippi here, people.

[Anonymous]

To the NIMBY's its the freakin Amazon.