ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Y’all didn’t complain about how unfair it was to “union” w SYC. That was all good for as long as MYS is on first. Now with an equal merger, it’s 117 pages of entitled complaining. Keep sending emails about how you were not consulted or oppose this second Union because it’s not in your DC best interests or that you’re a paying customer and will take your business elsewhere. Why not just ask the speak to the manager? This is the second Union in three years for both Brave and MYS. This goose is cooked. No backsies at this point. I’m enjoying the entertainment value and Union parents look like the worst in the metro area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all didn’t complain about how unfair it was to “union” w SYC. That was all good for as long as MYS is on first. Now with an equal merger, it’s 117 pages of entitled complaining. Keep sending emails about how you were not consulted or oppose this second Union because it’s not in your DC best interests or that you’re a paying customer and will take your business elsewhere. Why not just ask the speak to the manager? This is the second Union in three years for both Brave and MYS. This goose is cooked. No backsies at this point. I’m enjoying the entertainment value and Union parents look like the worst in the metro area.

Ask speak to the manager. Ok that was funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Note there are fewer nutsos on the thread now. Because they all left to coach their Thursday practices.

Lol!

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the solution:
Each ECNL team will be assigned 3 coaches—1 unanimously selected from each of the 3 club voting groups. The coaches rotate with each practice/game. Rock/paper/scissors decides who starts the rotation. Each player will have the benefit of 3 coaching styles, 3 evaluators, 3 styles of play, and 3 college references. The annual cost will have go up just a little to around $7,500 (uniforms, snacks, and travel not included), but well worth it! Problem solved.

The Judgment of Solomon. Why do you need the Union coaches to come to agreement? Let them out, this is a Deja Vu - old BRYC Boys TD didn’t want to sign off on BRAVE.

And replace them with the BRAVE boys coaches which have done a bang up job? That makes so much sense. You obviously don't know anything about the McLean Boys coaches. These are the coaches that have rebuilt McLean's reputation after they lost DA. They won the clubs only National Championship and have do so much to transform the boys program. And MYS leadership just wants to throw them out like nothing. It's a masterclass in weak leadership by Louise. From what I was told the the McLean Boys TD would have signed off on the merger if he could keep his best coaches. Which makes all the sense in the world. Why wouldn't the club want that? Instead McLean Girls leaders (Louise, Clyde, Nadir) are offering up the boys program in order to make the Girls stronger. The smoke screen is that it's the boys program's fault - which is patently false. Nobody has even confirmed what the clubs standing were in past years. It's just being assumed looking at their current rankings this year that the boys program has been bad. Except in 2022 they were National Finalist at U19. You don't see the club leadership pushing that narrative do you. This is all politics to cover up what's really happening. The real issue is that SYC is no longer a pipeline for Nadir and Clyde and they CAN'T develop young talent so they need fresh blood. Kevin James isn't an idiot. He knows he is on the hot seat for his sh*t deal with BRYC that has failed. The league was only going to kick out one club and the obvious choice is BRAVE. Plain and simple. Kevin and Nadir got together and made a deal to save their asses and in order to do so they have to fire the most important McLean Boys coaches.

I’ve always believed the McLean Boys coaches were very good, but at the moment their egos appear to be putting a lot of kids in a very bad spot. Their bosses made the decision without them. That’s uncool.
But their stonewalling isn’t doing anyone favors.

McLean Boys parent here. The club isn't listening to its members. It's not the coaches stonewalling. The parents have written countless letters to the leadership that they don't want this merger. They are trying to protect their coaches from being unjustly fired. Louise and company should be fired for their incompetence. This the worst rollout of a partnership ever (second to the SYC rollout).

There was no choice, the vote would have been merge with Brave or lose ECNL. Your Club told you that. It’s what BRYC was told with Vienna and probably what McLean was told about SYC.
It’s done, it’s not great for a lot of people, but it’s not going away.
Why make it worse than it already will be for a lot of kids.

I guess you just believe everything you hear and don't ask questions ever. What a dumb comment. Wake up. We are being lied to for self-interest of a few and hurting our own players.

So you wanted to stay just McLean and not try to improve? There is one half way decent Union boys team and they still don’t have a winning record.

2011 - 13th of 16
2010 - 13th of 16
2009 - 10th of 16
2008 - 6th of 16
2007 - 10th of 16
2005/2006 - 16th of 16

Nice try. Season for U13 and U14 is not done so ranking is not even relevant. But compared to Brave:

Union 2011 - 3-11-1. Brave 2011 - 2-12-1
Union 2010 - 4-9-1. Brave 2010 - 5-6-4
Union 2009 - 5-8-2. Brave 2009 - 1-13-1
Union 2008 - 8-3-4. Brave 2008 - 0-15-0
Union 2007- 6-8-1. Brave 2008 - 6-8-1
Union 2006 - 1-11-2. Brave 2006 - 4-8-3

I am not against a merger. I am against losing our best coaches to a program that is worse than ours.

I hope no one is paying you to analyze situations at your job because those things are the same and neither of them are good.

[Anonymous]

Based on comments I can see why this merger isn’t going anywhere fast. The McLean parents on the boys side just can’t seem to get past the crap numbers they’re putting out and are have a hard time letting go. Unfortunately the girls side is going to suffer due to the boys pulling them down like they always have. Hate to say it but anyone from this area knows the McLean boys side is and always has been terrible with the exception of one team. Don’t believe it? I guess the MYS boys parents haven’t looked at the college coaches choices lately. For every one McLean boy recruited for d1 there’s 20 girls…morons! Get your crap together on the boys side before this becomes a revolution within!

[Anonymous]

A full week later and... nada on additional details. Slow clap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all didn’t complain about how unfair it was to “union” w SYC. That was all good for as long as MYS is on first. Now with an equal merger, it’s 117 pages of entitled complaining. Keep sending emails about how you were not consulted or oppose this second Union because it’s not in your DC best interests or that you’re a paying customer and will take your business elsewhere. Why not just ask the speak to the manager? This is the second Union in three years for both Brave and MYS. This goose is cooked. No backsies at this point. I’m enjoying the entertainment value and Union parents look like the worst in the metro area.

Yes they did. This forum wasn’t anonymous though and none of them wanted to get outed for their terrible behavior. SYC parents were met with plenty of condescending stares at practice and whispers about kids not being as talented because our coaches sucked and why they gave all the spots to the poor people who lived so far away from Mclean.

[Anonymous]

Where’s the coaching slate by “midweek”????!!

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the solution:
Each ECNL team will be assigned 3 coaches—1 unanimously selected from each of the 3 club voting groups. The coaches rotate with each practice/game. Rock/paper/scissors decides who starts the rotation. Each player will have the benefit of 3 coaching styles, 3 evaluators, 3 styles of play, and 3 college references. The annual cost will have go up just a little to around $7,500 (uniforms, snacks, and travel not included), but well worth it! Problem solved.

The Judgment of Solomon. Why do you need the Union coaches to come to agreement? Let them out, this is a Deja Vu - old BRYC Boys TD didn’t want to sign off on BRAVE.

And replace them with the BRAVE boys coaches which have done a bang up job? That makes so much sense. You obviously don't know anything about the McLean Boys coaches. These are the coaches that have rebuilt McLean's reputation after they lost DA. They won the clubs only National Championship and have do so much to transform the boys program. And MYS leadership just wants to throw them out like nothing. It's a masterclass in weak leadership by Louise. From what I was told the the McLean Boys TD would have signed off on the merger if he could keep his best coaches. Which makes all the sense in the world. Why wouldn't the club want that? Instead McLean Girls leaders (Louise, Clyde, Nadir) are offering up the boys program in order to make the Girls stronger. The smoke screen is that it's the boys program's fault - which is patently false. Nobody has even confirmed what the clubs standing were in past years. It's just being assumed looking at their current rankings this year that the boys program has been bad. Except in 2022 they were National Finalist at U19. You don't see the club leadership pushing that narrative do you. This is all politics to cover up what's really happening. The real issue is that SYC is no longer a pipeline for Nadir and Clyde and they CAN'T develop young talent so they need fresh blood. Kevin James isn't an idiot. He knows he is on the hot seat for his sh*t deal with BRYC that has failed. The league was only going to kick out one club and the obvious choice is BRAVE. Plain and simple. Kevin and Nadir got together and made a deal to save their asses and in order to do so they have to fire the most important McLean Boys coaches.

I’ve always believed the McLean Boys coaches were very good, but at the moment their egos appear to be putting a lot of kids in a very bad spot. Their bosses made the decision without them. That’s uncool.
But their stonewalling isn’t doing anyone favors.

McLean Boys parent here. The club isn't listening to its members. It's not the coaches stonewalling. The parents have written countless letters to the leadership that they don't want this merger. They are trying to protect their coaches from being unjustly fired. Louise and company should be fired for their incompetence. This the worst rollout of a partnership ever (second to the SYC rollout).

There was no choice, the vote would have been merge with Brave or lose ECNL. Your Club told you that. It’s what BRYC was told with Vienna and probably what McLean was told about SYC.
It’s done, it’s not great for a lot of people, but it’s not going away.
Why make it worse than it already will be for a lot of kids.

I guess you just believe everything you hear and don't ask questions ever. What a dumb comment. Wake up. We are being lied to for self-interest of a few and hurting our own players.

So you wanted to stay just McLean and not try to improve? There is one half way decent Union boys team and they still don’t have a winning record.

2011 - 13th of 16
2010 - 13th of 16
2009 - 10th of 16
2008 - 6th of 16
2007 - 10th of 16
2005/2006 - 16th of 16

Nice try. Season for U13 and U14 is not done so ranking is not even relevant. But compared to Brave:

Union 2011 - 3-11-1. Brave 2011 - 2-12-1
Union 2010 - 4-9-1. Brave 2010 - 5-6-4
Union 2009 - 5-8-2. Brave 2009 - 1-13-1
Union 2008 - 8-3-4. Brave 2008 - 0-15-0
Union 2007- 6-8-1. Brave 2008 - 6-8-1
Union 2006 - 1-11-2. Brave 2006 - 4-8-3

I am not against a merger. I am against losing our best coaches to a program that is worse than ours.

Sorry Arlington mom it’s these poor abused souls in Fairfax County I should be calling mediocre. McBrave making mediocrity an art form. Can’t unsee those records, but college placement right yay!

[Anonymous]

Come this time next week, most of the better Union players will be off the board and onto their next club. Unfortunate, but it’s the reality of the situation. No one in their right mind would sit around to see how this movie ends….and if you haven’t seen this movie before, just ask the BRYC or the VYS parents because they keep seeing it on rerun every 2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the coaching slate by “midweek”????!!

They didn't say _which_ week.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come this time next week, most of the better Union players will be off the board and onto their next club. Unfortunate, but it’s the reality of the situation. No one in their right mind would sit around to see how this movie ends….and if you haven’t seen this movie before, just ask the BRYC or the VYS parents because they keep seeing it on rerun every 2 years.

Why not ask the Union parents from 2 years ago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a mass Mclean parent email going around this am sayinf that the merger was done w/o discussions with Mclean's Boys Technical Director (JW) and implies that the BOD was not aware of this when they voted. This is better than my favorite telenovela.

Sorry — that bots technical director left in the fall. Not sure what that odd email was attempting to promote as it was just wrong. I too feel this has been a full honest and communicative club. Best I’ve seen in the area by far.

[Anonymous]

So is the reason we’re still waiting for a slate because JW was offered to be a part of said slate and turned it down because AP was not and now they’re scrambling to determine who will take his team(s)? With 6 votes this could be a while.

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Anonymous wrote:If Brave is one of the lowest ranked teams in ECNL (boys and girls)- how does this help McLean improve their record/performance in ECNL? It is often stated that the Brave players are not caliber of other ECNL players so what is the benefit?

Wait until you see McLean players under VYS coaching!

Yes! Just wait! They're gonna sweep playoffs!

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