Notre Dame cathedral is on fire.

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Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It is an active church, how can a church charge an entrance fee?

It is owned by the French government. The Catholic Church is allowed to use it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

People are free to donate to the causes of their choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

People are free to donate to the causes of their choices.

Who said that people weren't free to donate to the causes of their choices? And although it should be obvious to you, people are also free to make judgments as to the quality of those choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked there weren't sprinklers or anything.

In an 850 year old cathedral?

It’s been renovated multiple times and has been undergoing a renovation since 1990 that was almost complete. I would have thought they’d install sprinklers in the attic.

I do know how old it is. I just thought it would be better protected.

I read this morning that in the absence of modern fire safety technology, three times a day, every day, the attic was inspected for fire. Also, of the 500 responding firefighters at the scene, 100 of them were dedicated to rescuing art and artifacts. Twice in the past year, firefighters ran drills for rescuing the art in case of fire. I find that remarkable.

+1 Very! Those firefighters seem extremely competent and brave.

[Anonymous]

Notre Dame Cathedral rebuilt and opens to open to public on December 8, 2024.

[Anonymous]

Yay!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

Yes lest donate to feed people during a famine so they can live longer and make more people who will then die in the next famine. If you don’t fix the root cause then you are just expanding the suffering OR donate to a world treasure that will continue to inspire people for generations to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

Yes lest donate to feed people during a famine so they can live longer and make more people who will then die in the next famine. If you don’t fix the root cause then you are just expanding the suffering OR donate to a world treasure that will continue to inspire people for generations to come.

Live aid in 1985 raised money for starving people in Ethiopia. The population was 40 million. The population is now 134 million. Insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

Yes lest donate to feed people during a famine so they can live longer and make more people who will then die in the next famine. If you don’t fix the root cause then you are just expanding the suffering OR donate to a world treasure that will continue to inspire people for generations to come.

Could you clarify? Are you saying wealthy nations should watch impoverished Africans starve?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Francois-Henri Pinault has already pledged 100 million euros to rebuilding.

So have the Arnaults. But is frustrating as a French person that the money wasn’t raised before now. Perhaps they did donate before but I’ve been solicited countless times in the last decade after permanently moving to the US to help raise money in the US because the French couldn’t raise the $200 million it initially needed to restore it. The poor Notre Dame has been in disrepair for a long time, it’s very expensive to maintain and there is not a charge to visit it so they don’t raise money from admissions. The repairs have been delayed because of lack of funds and these current renovations were very small in comparison to what needed to be entirely done. But previously the French government and the Catholic Church didn’t have enough money and they couldn’t raise enough money within France so they purposefully came to the US as Americans have a reputation of being more charitable. Even Macron came to NYC, DC and LA to fundraise because he couldn’t get it from the French.

I am glad my fellow French citizens are stepping up but there isn’t a lesson to be learned here that it is important to preserve historical landmarks, monuments, art, and items of cultural significance. Please don’t wait until it’s too late and just think someone else will get to it. Sigh.

It's a building. They could consider charging admissions outside of Sunday the way the National Cathedral in DC does. People have many options to donate their money. It's surprising to me that half a billion dollars have been raised overnight. Definitely doesn't happen when there's a famine in an African country.

Yes lest donate to feed people during a famine so they can live longer and make more people who will then die in the next famine. If you don’t fix the root cause then you are just expanding the suffering OR donate to a world treasure that will continue to inspire people for generations to come.

Could you clarify? Are you saying wealthy nations should watch impoverished Africans starve?

If there’s nothing being done to ensure that they will have food a week a month a year later then to some degree you are just expanding the misery. You feel better about yourself because they are fed for now but then what? The droughts continue, the farmland is sucked dry, there’s no contraception or medical care…..